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    Help me solve my vehicle puzzle

    The situation:
    I'm approximately two months in to my no-charge no-credit period and I may be able to file within 30 days or so. I'm well below median and have negative disposable income when my medical expenses are included. Even without medical expenses, I'm within $200 of having no disposable income using my current living expenses.

    I have no assets beyond household stuff like everyone else except for one thing -- I have three vehicles...

    1) Brand new 2006 pickup truck I bought last fall. It was a $28,000 truck that I paid $22,500 for and put only $2,500 down and stretched the payments out over six or seven years. Recipie for disaster, right? KBB trade-in value shows it's worth $23,000 today in excellent condition and retail is more than $27,000. I only owe the bank $20,000 right now. Can you believe that I actually have equity in this thing? I expect to reaffirm this loan and keep the vehicle.

    2) Well used, but in otherwise good condition, 1999 Chevrolet Suburban with one teensy-weensy little problem. I owe my credit union $6,000 on this one and KBB trade-in value shows it is worth about $6,000 too. Retail value is up at $11,000. This one gets more complicated because I ruined a rod bearing in the engine on the way back from our last trip out of town for my wife's medical care. The engine is shot and I overdrew my checking account $1,500 buying a replacement engine. (I haven't repaired it yet so I still get to decide how to proceed.) It's even more complicated by the fact that the credit union has it cross collateralized with a VISA card and a line of credit that add another $5,000 or $6,000 to the debt. They can't take the truck if I don't want them to, but I'll never get clear title to it without repaying the $12,000 I owe them. (By the way, they accidently sent me the title a while back and I never told them. They signed off the lien but they signed it in the wrong place. The title I hold may or may not be negotiable unless I can correct it.)

    3) My third vehicle is a 1988 stepvan. (Like a FedEx truck.) It's got exactly one seat, a diesel engine and an automatic transmission. I own it free and clear and it has saved my butt because I've been able to drive it to work and back every day while the Suburban above is out of service.

    - I can exempt two vehicles when I file. Which two should I exempt?

    When the engine in the Suburban died, and I didn't have money to replace it, I put the stepvan up for sale. I've almost given up selling it until today when someone paid me $3,000 for it.

    Now I'm worried that this will be seen as selling an asset in anticipation of filing. I have a justifiable need for the money, and it's pretty clear that this vehicle is not necessary for my family's support. But I'm still worried.

    For a while I though I'd exempt the stepvan and let them take the Suburban. There's no equity in the Suburban and it's broken. I though maybe they would abandon it to my possesion and I'd go ahead and fix it and drive it some more. I planned to keep the stepvan because of the small amount of equity so I could replace it later with something the family could use.

    The last thing I want to do right now is try to by another vehicle of any kind from anywhere. the next vehicle I buy will be paid in full at the time of purchase or nothing else.

    Without thinking of the bankruptcy, I would have gone ahead and sold the stepvan, fixed the Suburban and continued happily on my way with two perfectly adequite trucks.

    Now there's a bankruptcy that's imminent and it's messing everything up. Does anyone care to give me advice on how I should proceed?
    Discharged November 2008 100 days after filing no-asset Chapter 7. We intended to let a two-year-old vehicle go back to the bank and reaffirm an inexpensive ten-year-old SUV and our home mortgage. In the end we surrendered ALL of our vehicles and reaffirmed NOTHING. We'll "ride through" our mortgage after the court ruled it an undue hardship.

    #2
    If you can make do for a few months during BK on only the 1 vehicle,...........

    I'd cover the newer truck with Exemptions. Spend the cash on necessities. And let the bank take back the Suburban. Surrender it in BK so you won't have a repo showing on your credit.

    Once your BK is settled, if you need another vehicle, apply with RoadLoans or CapOne for a blank check and buy another car.

    JMHO.
    Filed Ch 7 - 09/06
    Discharged - 12/2006
    Officially Declared No Asset - 03/2007
    Closed - 04/2007

    I am not an attorney. My comments are based on personal experience and research. Always consult an attorney in your area to address concerns related to your particular situation.

    Another good thing about being poor is that when you are seventy your children will not have declared you legally insane in order to gain control of your estate. - Woody Allen...

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      Last edited by Keebler; 11-08-2007, 08:01 PM.
      Discharged November 2008 100 days after filing no-asset Chapter 7. We intended to let a two-year-old vehicle go back to the bank and reaffirm an inexpensive ten-year-old SUV and our home mortgage. In the end we surrendered ALL of our vehicles and reaffirmed NOTHING. We'll "ride through" our mortgage after the court ruled it an undue hardship.

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        I'm with SF on this one. Although, we have 3 vehicles and we're supposed to only be able to exempt 2 and the Trustee doesn't want of them. A 1998 Chevy Venture Van with 143,000 miles, a 1995 Dodge Intrepid with 113,000 miles and a 1990 G-Van (our antiques hauling vehicle) with 140,000 miles on it. So, maybe he/she won't want any of them.
        Petition Filed 6/4/07 :clapping:
        341 meeting 7/31/07 :clapping: :unsure:
        First Meeting Held and Trustee's Report of No Distribution 8/2 :yahoo::yahoo:
        10/15/2007 - DISCHARGED!:yahoo::yahoo::yahoo:

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