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    Congress Vs. Credit Cards

    Not completely related to bankruptcy, but most people who have filed for bk have experienced it and I just like news about credit card lenders having to explain practices that are fueled by greed



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    Ho ho ho. Just in time for the holiday spending season, members of Congress are skewering credit card companies for pushing allegedly abusive business practices on unwitting customers.

    Tuesday, a panel led by Sen. Carl Levin, D-Mich., and Sen. Norm Coleman, R-Minn., will haul in executives from Discover, Bank of America (nyse: BAC - news - people ) and Capital One Financial (nyse: COF - news - people ). The lawmakers want to know why they raise customers' interest rates when those customers have a solid payment history.

    The spotlight on the industry comes as Congress and the Bush administration consider regulatory fixes for the easy lending of the subprime mortgage industry. Levin says lawmakers have a "regulatory responsibility" to "end some abuses where they exist in the free market."

    Give them an "A" for effort. At a separate hearing in March, the same panel, part of the Senate Committee on Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs, took on Bank of America, JP Morgan Chase Bank and Citigroup (nyse: C - news - people ) for charging interest to customers who pay their bills before the due date. Levin and Sen. Claire McCaskill, D-Mo., proposed a bill to stop lenders from charging interest for debt paid on time and prohibit interest rate hikes without the cardholder's consent.

    Tuesday's hearing gives lawmakers a new chance to shame credit issuers into changing their Byzantine lending habits. They've had some success at it. Two of the country's five largest issuers, Citi Cards and Chase, recently announced they would no longer increase rates on customers who make timely payments. Now Congress wants answers from Discover, Bank of America and CapitalOne.

    During a recent investigation, the Senate panel found Bank of America and Discover raised customers' rates because their overall credit scores dropped, not because of untimely payments. Moreover, the panel found neither bank could pinpoint the cause for a credit score drop because the system used to determine a score uses too many interrelated variables.

    "Some contend credit card companies are repricing cardholders based on objective criteria," says Levin. "But the truth is there is a lot of arbitrariness in how interest rates are set."

    The banking industry says they're not sure whether Congress' gripe is with the way the credit scores are calculated or how issuers interpret them. "It is a settled fact that a customer's performance with one or more debt obligations is predictive of whether they will pay their other bills, including credit cards," says a "fact sheet" on credit cards issued by the American Bankers Association Monday. They also argue the need to pass on expenses to customers, just like anyone else in business.

    Levin is unmoved. He argues issuers should honor the rate they advertised to customers regardless of an increase in their costs, and favors more oversight of the industry's doings.

    Others agree. A report last year by the Government Accountability Office found lenders often present customers with unintelligible information about the terms of their cards, and called for tighter restrictions on the practice. The Federal Reserve, which loosely regulates the industry, has proposed credit issuers make changes in terms more transparent to consumers and give them at least 45 days notice when their rate is about to increase.

    And don't underestimate the effect that the subprime fiasco might have on credit card issuers. Levin says his panel hasn't yet examined the extent to which the mortgage mess has caused credit card interest rates to increase, due to falling credit scores. They'll be looking at that next.


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    Nothing will happen until the shrub gets blown blown into the sunset towards Texas, about a year and a month from now.

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      #3
      Originally posted by magyar123 View Post
      Nothing will happen until the shrub gets blown blown into the sunset towards Texas, about a year and a month from now.
      Not completely disagreeing with you on that one, but I don't know, the fallout from this mortgage slump is hitting just about all facets of American business, and bringing to light a lot of the shady dealings that creditors have been getting away with for years.

      I kinda liken it to the Enron scandal. Everything was fine when the market was up and everyone was making money, but as soon as things started going south, it really opened a lot of people's eyes.

      I do like that we have some elected officials who are willing to grab their flashlights, lift up the rocks, and go looking for the cockroaches, rather than pretending like they don't exist.
      Filed Ch 7: 12/27/07
      341: 2/6/08
      Discharged: 4/11/08
      Finally closing: ???

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        #4
        Who knows if anything will happen right away, some credit card lenders have backed off on their own. Its funny to me though that lawmakers are just now realizing that banks pride themselves on finding loopholes in almost every law...

        For example, most states have laws regarding rates in some way. Hasn't anyone ever noticed that most cards are issued in North Dakota or Deleware? The two states with the most liberal laws regarding rate hikes.

        I don’t think most of America will ever realize how under handed most financial institutions are. Most people do not realize that personal bankers are actually salespersons on commision, with the primary goal of selling you a product. (Service?? pfffft! nuts to that! Call the 800 number, I have money to make lady!) Most of the time it is whatever product pays them the most money that month. For example, branch managers at Chase know very little about the operational aspects of a bank – that responsibility is that of the assistant branch manager. They are provided with internal support that provides them help on a “as you go” basis. The number of “training” classes they go through when first brought on board to the company that focus on sales greatly exceeds the number of classes that pay attention to laws or regulations (other than what is required by law)
        In 2004 and 2005, there was a huge push in the industry to write home equity lines of credit. Due to rates being so low, the adjustable rate HELOC was extremely easy to market. With most offering interest only payments and then a balloon payment of the remaining balance in 10 years, the payment was very, very low (or so it seemed) If someone came in for a car loan and owned their home, they needed to be swung over to a home equity. It was like shooting fish in barrel. Most of the time, the home owners got a credit line that exceeding that of what they needed to purchase the specific item they were looking at. Isn’t that nice of us! Clearly the 120% loan-to-value ratio was evaluated by the bank in every way before making a decision to offer that product. Besides, how could that possibly backfire?

        Fast forward to today…. Can’t pay your second mortgage that was used for your car purchase? You don’t lose your car, you lose your house.

        Fast forward about 7 years from now – balloon payments due - credit stink now? No refinance/recast. kabooM!

        Oy, and that is only the tip of the ice berg. I could talk for hours about bank fees.
        That’s another day..

        Sorry this turned into a long rant, lol. not sure if anyone cares, but I wrote it all so I figured I might as well post it.

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          #5
          Originally posted by whywhywhy View Post
          Sorry this turned into a long rant, lol. not sure if anyone cares, but I wrote it all so I figured I might as well post it.
          I, for one, am glad you wrote this.
          Chapter 13 Filed "Old Law"
          Filed: 6/2003 Confirmed: 3/2004
          Early pay off sent: 10/05/2007 - 9 months early
          11/16/2007 - Discharged!

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            #6
            WHYWHYWHY
            Great post ! You took a complex situation and brought it to an understandable, succinct synopsis without oversimplification
            Last edited by DebtSlave; 01-04-2008, 05:25 PM. Reason: sp
            CH 13 OLD LAW
            10/14/05
            Closed completed
            Final accounting 04/2009

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              #7
              Originally posted by magyar123 View Post
              Nothing will happen until the shrub gets blown blown into the sunset towards Texas, about a year and a month from now.
              Can't say I'll miss him. What a disaster he turned out to be. Don't be confused though. Neither party gives rat spit about the 80% of the country that don't fall into each of their political spectrums. The Democrats (tree hugging, socialist, Mac using, Element driving weenies) and the Republicans (bible thumping, homophobic, we just haven't found the WMD's yet, lock step GED holders) don't care at all about the vast majority of the country that doesn't fall into one of those categories. Rest assured that whomever wins the election next November, you will not be on their minds. They will pander to their special interests which don't include you.
              Filed Ch 7 - 6/30/08
              341 Meeting - 7/31/08
              Discharged - 9/30/08
              Closed (finally) - 2/10/09

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