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creditors that don't file claims

DUMBAGAIN
03-30-2009, 05:13 AM
Since we are going to be in the 100% payback, I was curious which creditors might not file claims. Can anyone share which of their creditors did not. I know there in no knowing for sure, but just wondering.

lrprn
03-30-2009, 05:18 PM
Unfortunately just because a creditor did not file a claim on my Ch 13 case doesn't mean they won't file a claim on yours.

Amounts owed also have little to do with who files claims and who doesn't. For example, one of the creditors we owed the most to (over $10K) didn't file a claim, yet one of our smallest amounts owed (about $150) did.

Because you filed a 100% payback plan, who files claims and who doesn't won't change your payment - just the length of your plan. Unless you know a reliable psychic, you'll just have to wait out the claims period to see where you stand.

jjj117
03-31-2009, 02:46 AM
How reliable is the Chapter 13 Datacenter as far as these things go? I have several accounts listed on my case on that site that show a dollar amount in the "scheduled amount" column that have big fat zeros in the "claim amount" column? As I have posted before my attorney won't call, or now e-mail, me back and the trustee won't answer my questions. And what about the"principal owed" column? Is that what you still have to pay to satisfy those that did file claims?

woeisme
03-31-2009, 02:53 AM
All my credit cards filed claims, I think the only creditors in my case who didn't were all medical bills, hospital, EMT, etc. your results may vary :-)

lrprn
03-31-2009, 08:19 AM
There are two online websites that Ch 13 trustees use to post information about their chapter 13 cases - 13Network at http://www.13network.com/ and National Data Center at https://www.13datacenter.com/data/home_debtors.asp .

Which website are you viewing?

jjj117
03-31-2009, 09:00 AM
13datacenter.com

BigJohn
03-31-2009, 10:42 AM
Since we are going to be in the 100% payback, I was curious which creditors might not file claims. Can anyone share which of their creditors did not. I know there in no knowing for sure, but just wondering.



I had 2 creditors serve me. They both were just under 10K. One filed and the other didn't. I have one card with Home depot for about 20K and they didn't file.
None of the local medical bills filed.

ccfriend
03-31-2009, 01:28 PM
Mine all filed claims...even American Express for $26!

Gerry
04-01-2009, 05:39 AM
$26 .... jeeeez .... :blink:

woeisme
04-01-2009, 07:22 AM
I had one file a claim for $36.02 (attorney/debt collector) and one for $90.90 (credit card) so it's hard to say who will make claims and who won't.

lrprn
04-01-2009, 07:17 PM
13datacenter.com

Thanks for clarifying. Your original questions asking about what you were seeing on you 13datacenter account were:
How reliable is the Chapter 13 Datacenter as far as these things go? Only as reliable as your trustee's office staff are updating the trustee's payment distribution information. Most trustees disburse funds once a month, but it's not unusual for months to get skipped. You don't have to worry about that - it's between your trustee and your creditors when, how much, and how often they get a disbursement.

I have several accounts listed on my case on that site that show a dollar amount in the "scheduled amount" column that have big fat zeros in the "claim amount" column? Could be for several reasons. Is the creditor secured or unsecured? Did the creditor file an objection to your plan that was later overturned?

And what about the"principal owed" column? Is that what you still have to pay to satisfy those that did file claims?You have to look at both the Principal Owed and the Principal Paid columns for that creditor. As the trustee pays that creditor their alloted share of your monthly payments, the Principal Owed column goes down by what the trustee disbursed and the Principal Paid column goes up by the same amount.

Hope this helps :)

athomas
04-01-2009, 07:28 PM
I am not sure how this varies from district to district, but I was informed by my attorney that my creditors can file late claims. We are in month 53 of a 60 month plan, with 60% to unsecureds...only none of them filed a claim. When I started asking more questions of our attorney regarding why we have to continue paying the amount when there are no claims, he indicated that our district does allow for the filing of late claims.

So to answer your question, none of ours filed claims, but according to our attorney, they still can. At least they can where we're at.