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    Bankruptcy IS a Business Decision - A True Story

    Businesses file for bankruptcy ALL the time...when times are good and when times are not so good. When consumers file, I think we look at it as a bad thing because we have personal attachments to our stuff i.e. houses, cars, savings, etc. And I can understand this because I was one of those people.

    However, I'd like to share a story. A few years ago, one of my colleagues invited me to dinner with one of her friends. When we got there, her friend was a small, unassuming guy with a slight Texas accent that pulled up to the restaurant in a mini-van. However, when he paid for dinner, he paid with an AMEX Black Card. I had heard about the Amex Black Cards (also called Centurion cards), but had never personally seen one.

    In order to qualify for an Amex Black Card, you have to have:

    1. High credit rating
    * If your life circumstances or sense of responsibility have caused blemishes on your recent credit history, this card may be out of your reach. At least until you fix your credit rating, anyway.
    2. Have a Platinum Card
    * You need to already hold an American Express Platinum, if you want to apply for a Centurion.
    3. Extravagant spending habits
    * Your Platinum account will have to demonstrate a $250,000 annual spending rate. Again, that's a quarter of a million dollars, each year, charged to your account.
    4. Significant Assets
    * These might include, oh, say, a house, or savings that exceed your current credit card spending limit. A company or an island might help as well.

    And, to KEEP your Black Card, you must:


    1. Pay a one-time fee of $5,000.
    2. Pay an annual fee of $2,500.
    3. Pay off the balance, in full, every month whether you charge $5 for a Starbucks coffee or $200k for
    a first class trip around the world.

    Why Am I Posting this??

    This meeting was in 2008. This guy filed bankruptcy in 2005. Not only did he TELL us this, the story recently broke in the media: http://www.tmz.com/2010/10/16/real-h...ng-bankruptcy/

    Yep, that's right. If you watch the show, you'll see in the latest episode that they just spent 60k (no, not 6k), SIXTY THOUSAND DOLLARS, on a birthday party for their 4 year old daughter.

    Now, how he built his net worth, or credit for that matter, back up after his BK is a moot point. The fact is, he looked at filing as a Business Decision. This guy is a Venture Capitalist, by the way, so by working in the finance arena, he's probably learned some important lessons about BKing and rebuilding..

    Do you think that this BUSINESSMAN thought twice about filing bankruptcy in 2005?? Nope, this is a smart man. He knew that if he lost everything he could rebuild again...bigger, better and stronger than before.

    So, if it makes sense for you to file, go through the headache, but come back bigger, better and stronger than you were before. That doesn't mean go grab an AMEX Black Card, LOL, but if you choose to rebuild your credit, treat yourself to a financial literacy class, or constantly educate yourself on sensible credit building. If you choose to live on cash only - more power to you. Just find ways to create more cash in your life.

    I hope that we can all learn lessons from our BK filings, if not from this guy, then from each others, as well as our own, personal stories.
    Last edited by freedomnow7; 11-07-2010, 12:36 PM.
    Filed Pro Se Ch. 7 on 7/7/10 341 Meeting 8/19/10
    Last Day for Objections 10/18/10 Discharged to a Fresh New Start 11/1/10

    #2
    what a story!!!!!!!

    i know...my brother had one...HAD...until he went belly up a few years ago....and he explained to me what it was and i couldn't believe it...but then again...i couldn't believe he had 10 bathrooms in his house...i would make certain and use them all during my visits...just to make certain they ALL had to be cleaned.

    ridicules!!

    the higher you are the harder the fall........and his was into BRICKS and CONCRETE!
    8/4/2008 MAKE SURE AND VISIT Tobee's Blogs! http://www.bkforum.com/blog.php?32727-tobee43 and all are welcome to bk forum's Florida State Questions and Answers on BK http://www.bkforum.com/group.php?groupid=9

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      #3
      Interesting. I guess Amex wasn't one of his creditors when he filed in 2005....
      Filed CH7 9/24/2010, 341 on 10/28/2010, Disch.&Closed: 1/6/2011. FICO EX: 9/2: 672.
      FICO EQ: pre-filing: 573, After BK Public Record: 568, 10/3: 673.
      FICO TU: pre-filing: 589, After BK Public Record: 563, 9/2: 706.

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        #4
        LOL!!....he most likely charged his daughter 60k birthday party on his black amex card and then filed...letting amex pay for the party???
        8/4/2008 MAKE SURE AND VISIT Tobee's Blogs! http://www.bkforum.com/blog.php?32727-tobee43 and all are welcome to bk forum's Florida State Questions and Answers on BK http://www.bkforum.com/group.php?groupid=9

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          #5
          LMAO, Tobee, that would be something wouldn't it? No, it was filmed this year and he filed back in '05. Still though, I couldn't see how they would get past the Trustee...

          BTW - Did your brother rebuild?
          Filed Pro Se Ch. 7 on 7/7/10 341 Meeting 8/19/10
          Last Day for Objections 10/18/10 Discharged to a Fresh New Start 11/1/10

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            #6
            Originally posted by freedomnow7 View Post
            LMAO, Tobee, that would be something wouldn't it? No, it was filmed this year and he filed back in '05. Still though, I couldn't see how they would get past the Trustee...

            BTW - Did your brother rebuild?
            it most certainly would have been...how funny would that have been?? i could see the headlines..AMEX pays 60k for kids birthday party!!

            nope...my brother went from millions to nothing....if you call still making over 900k nothing but he can't pay his bills even with that! somehow, we aren't all that sad for him...although, he is surly loved...he had to pay back in his bk...plus he was also owned a ton of money that the trustee is STILL pursuing...interesting case.
            8/4/2008 MAKE SURE AND VISIT Tobee's Blogs! http://www.bkforum.com/blog.php?32727-tobee43 and all are welcome to bk forum's Florida State Questions and Answers on BK http://www.bkforum.com/group.php?groupid=9

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              #7
              Amazing. Simply amazing.

              Not that I want (or could) retun to that level, it's empowering to know I haven't hit rock-bottom yet. This is really just a 60-month speed bump, right..?

              BTW - I HAD a Platinum Card with AmEX. I have a feeling they never want to hear from me again...

              --13for60
              Filed Chapter 13 - 10/05/10
              341 Scheduled - 11/10/10

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                #8
                i'm sure it's only a "speed" bump...and you'll be on that straight highway again...soon enough.

                as for us...we also had a platinum amex...and they can keep it!

                and even with my brother's income....i'm not thinking he'll be back into the black card anytime soon.
                8/4/2008 MAKE SURE AND VISIT Tobee's Blogs! http://www.bkforum.com/blog.php?32727-tobee43 and all are welcome to bk forum's Florida State Questions and Answers on BK http://www.bkforum.com/group.php?groupid=9

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by 13for60 View Post
                  BTW - I HAD a Platinum Card with AmEX. I have a feeling they never want to hear from me again...
                  You just typed what I was thinking..LOL!
                  Filed CH7 9/24/2010, 341 on 10/28/2010, Disch.&Closed: 1/6/2011. FICO EX: 9/2: 672.
                  FICO EQ: pre-filing: 573, After BK Public Record: 568, 10/3: 673.
                  FICO TU: pre-filing: 589, After BK Public Record: 563, 9/2: 706.

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