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Originally posted by tobee43 View Postwho got those jobs??? that's my question.....and of course this type of reports help enforce the stoppage of the UI extension....where's the jobs???????
You could right a nice letter to the BLS asking for the names, addresses, and telephone numbers of all the people that found a job this year. That would be a list of around 1 million people. Then, since you have plenty of time on your hands, you could call each one and confirm they found a job and what kind of job it is. Then, you could post on each new finding right here. Just think tobee - that would be another 1 million posts for you on the BK forum. I say - go for it!
And why does this report have anything to do with UI extensions? If 15 million people are out of work and only 1 million have found new jobs this year, I'd say that little fact overrides any weak unemployment report. You would prefer that the UI report always reports only job losses so the UI extensions will continue? That sounds like welfare forever to me. I didn't know you were a flaming liberal.Last edited by WhatMoney; 11-05-2010, 11:04 AM.
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Originally posted by WhatMoney View PostOctober 2010 unemployment numbers were just released. U-3 is steady at 9.6%. U-6 is at 17.0%, nearly unchanged from September.
http://www.bls.gov/news.release/empsit.t15.htm
The Labor Department said Friday its survey of employers showed a net gain of 151,000 jobs last month, the first increase since May. Private employers hired 159,000 workers, the best since April.
Economists welcomed the report, which showed much stronger job gains than Wall Street analysts had expected.
"This is not a gangbusters report but it is very important," said Carl Riccadonna, an economist at Deutsche Bank. "It shows us that the momentum in employment is building."
Employers also extended the average work week to 34.3 hours, up by one-tenth. The additional jobs and longer work week should boost Americans' incomes and provide fuel for more consumer spending, which drives about 70 percent of the economy.
The additional income, combined with the Federal Reserve's decision Wednesday to pump more cash into the economy and the potential extension of the Bush tax cuts, could "jump start a virtuous cycle," Riccadonna said. More income may encourage more spending, leading to more hiring by healthier companies, he added.
The department also revised August and September's payroll figures higher. The private sector added 103,000 more jobs in those two months than previously estimated.
So far this year, the economy has added 874,000 jobs and over a million in the private sector. But that comes after the nation lost more than 8 million jobs in 2008 and 2009.
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Employ...&asset=&ccode=
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October 2010 unemployment numbers were just released. U-3 is steady at 9.6%. U-6 is at 17.0%, nearly unchanged from September.
http://www.bls.gov/news.release/empsit.t15.htm
The Labor Department said Friday its survey of employers showed a net gain of 151,000 jobs last month, the first increase since May. Private employers hired 159,000 workers, the best since April.
Economists welcomed the report, which showed much stronger job gains than Wall Street analysts had expected.
"This is not a gangbusters report but it is very important," said Carl Riccadonna, an economist at Deutsche Bank. "It shows us that the momentum in employment is building."
Employers also extended the average work week to 34.3 hours, up by one-tenth. The additional jobs and longer work week should boost Americans' incomes and provide fuel for more consumer spending, which drives about 70 percent of the economy.
The additional income, combined with the Federal Reserve's decision Wednesday to pump more cash into the economy and the potential extension of the Bush tax cuts, could "jump start a virtuous cycle," Riccadonna said. More income may encourage more spending, leading to more hiring by healthier companies, he added.
The department also revised August and September's payroll figures higher. The private sector added 103,000 more jobs in those two months than previously estimated.
So far this year, the economy has added 874,000 jobs and over a million in the private sector. But that comes after the nation lost more than 8 million jobs in 2008 and 2009.
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Employ...&asset=&ccode=Last edited by WhatMoney; 11-05-2010, 05:48 AM.
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Originally posted by queenfluff View PostWhat they need to do is quit relying on these stupid statistics that really don't tell you anything? It doesn't take into account people who are still unemployed and don't get anymore benefits (that would be me!) and those who couldn't get unemployment benefits etc etc.
They were saying that unemployment in Las Vegas is 15% - I think think should apply to the whole country. This 10 or 9% is not correct.
http://www.bls.gov/news.release/empsit.t15.htm
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My favorite thing is how every week they will say something different:
"Unemployment benefits applications dropped this week. The recession is over"
Than the next week:
"Unemployment benefits application rose sharply this week. Ooops"
WTF? Just like the weather, they can't predict anything. They have no idea how to figure this this out.
What they need to do is quit relying on these stupid statistics that really don't tell you anything? It doesn't take into account people who are still unemployed and don't get anymore benefits (that would be me!) and those who couldn't get unemployment benefits etc etc.
They were saying that unemployment in Las Vegas is 15% - I think think should apply to the whole country. This 10 or 9% is not correct.
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Originally posted by gamama View Postand employment turn around is also a an all time high.
The other day, heard that during 1978-1982, even though unemployment rates were a little higher, people were getting jobs quicker. this downturn - unemployed people are staying unemployed for longer periods of time. i think i heard 6 months!
The problem is there are no jobs to apply for - what else can one do? There are very few jobs out there and tons of competition for 1 opening. The odds are pretty slim that you will be the one getting it.
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and employment turn around is also a an all time high.
The other day, heard that during 1978-1982, even though unemployment rates were a little higher, people were getting jobs quicker. this downturn - unemployed people are staying unemployed for longer periods of time. i think i heard 6 months!
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Originally posted by MSbklawyer View PostIf there's anything that I see as the catalyst that starts the second major decline, it's the expiration of those tax cuts.
And don't forget Obamacare kicks in at the same time too. My guess is anyone that still has employer provided insurance (except for federal workers of course) will see a huge increase in their premiums starting next year and beyond.
The repubs will run on a platform that they will repeal this but we know they won't. Maybe Ron Paul and a few others will but that's about it.
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Originally posted by WhatMoney View PostMaybe you can educate all the economists that were "surprised".
If there's anything that I see as the catalyst that starts the second major decline, it's the expiration of those tax cuts.Last edited by MSbklawyer; 08-19-2010, 05:53 PM.
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Originally posted by banca rotta View PostCNBC again posted a news article on the unexpected high first time jobless.
CNBC Utilities Page, Politics, Markets, Stock markets, Commodity markets, Currency markets, Bonds, US Top News and Analysis, US Homepage, stocks, Make It, Currencies, Futures & Commodities, business news
If anyone reading this works for CNBC please tell your co workers to get some badly needed help for drug addiction. Once they admit they have a problem they will recover. Once they admit we have a problem with UE and BK's there's a good shot we will recover too.
From Bloomberg business services:
Jobless Claims in U.S. Rose to Highest Since November
The number of unemployment claims unexpectedly shot up by 12,000 to 500,000 in the week ended Aug. 14, Labor Department figures showed today in Washington.
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Unexpected Increase
Claims exceeded estimates of all 42 economists surveyed
Seems they are just reporting the news. Maybe you can educate all the economists that were "surprised".
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CNBC again posted a news article on the unexpected high first time jobless.
CNBC Utilities Page, Politics, Markets, Stock markets, Commodity markets, Currency markets, Bonds, US Top News and Analysis, US Homepage, stocks, Make It, Currencies, Futures & Commodities, business news
If anyone reading this works for CNBC please tell your co workers to get some badly needed help for drug addiction. Once they admit they have a problem they will recover. Once they admit we have a problem with UE and BK's there's a good shot we will recover too.
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And the quote of the week:
"US shed more jobs then expected"
Just who are they talking about when they say "more then expected"?
I expected it. Most of you expected it.
The only ones that didn't expect it are the ones on CNBC (crack/cocaine news business channel).
I heard that when you use those drugs you usually are in denial.
This link on the subject would be funny if it weren't so true.
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Just imagine every bank in one afternoon closing their doors since the govt defaulted so there is a run on the banks.
"We Are in a real sense living on borrowed money and borrowed time."
Paul Volker, Chairman of the Federal Reserve System.
Feb. 20, 1985
"The recession will be a picnic compared to where this country will be in 1997."
US Senator Warren B. Rudman, March 24, 1992.
And his introduction: "In 1995, The United States of America, as we know it today, will cease to exist. That year the country will have spent itself into bankruptcy from which there will be no return..."
Chapter 1 is called The Week From Hell. Essentially what all the doomsdayers still predict today. Of course it never happened. The economy improved, tax revenues increased, and the short term debt was reduced - right up until George W Bush spent it all in Iraq.
I have dozens of these books. They all failed to understand their projections were only that - and they could not account for the measures taken to counter the debt and recover the economy. Here we are in 2010, same predictions. "Of course this time it's different."
(BTW, the only failure in 1995 was Harry E Figgie, president of Figgie International, who lost his own company in 1994 - by listening to his own advice... should be a lesson in there somewhere. )Last edited by WhatMoney; 05-26-2010, 12:45 AM.
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