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    $2tn debt crisis threatens to bring down 100 US cities

    Monday 20 December 2010 17.58 GMT


    Overdrawn American cities could face financial collapse in 2011, defaulting on hundreds of billions of dollars of borrowings and derailing the US economic recovery. Nor are European cities safe – Florence, Barcelona, Madrid, Venice: all are in trouble

    More than 100 American cities could go bust next year as the debt crisis that has taken down banks and countries threatens next to spark a municipal meltdown, a leading analyst has warned.

    Meredith Whitney, the US research analyst who correctly predicted the global credit crunch, described local and state debt as the biggest problem facing the US economy, and one that could derail its recovery.

    "Next to housing this is the single most important issue in the US and certainly the biggest threat to the US economy," Whitney told the CBS 60 Minutes programme on Sunday night.

    "There's not a doubt on my mind that you will see a spate of municipal bond defaults. You can see fifty to a hundred sizeable defaults – more. This will amount to hundreds of billions of dollars' worth of defaults."

    New Jersey governor Chris Christie summarised the problem succinctly: "We spent too much on everything. We spent money we didn't have. We borrowed money just crazily. The credit card's maxed out, and it's over. We now have to get to the business of climbing out of the hole. We've been digging it for a decade or more. We've got to climb now, and a climb is harder."

    American cities and states have debts in total of as much as $2tn. In Europe, local and regional government borrowing is expected to reach a historical peak of nearly €1.3tn (£1.1tn) this year.

    Cities from Detroit to Madrid are struggling to pay creditors, including providers of basic services such as street cleaning. Last week, Moody's ratings agency warned about a possible downgrade for the cities of Florence and Barcelona and cut the rating of the Basque country in northern Spain. Lisbon was downgraded by rival agency Standard & Poor's earlier this year, while the borrowings of Naples and Budapest are on the brink of junk status. Istanbul's debt has already been downgraded to junk.

    Whitney's intervention is likely to raise the profile of the issue of municipal debt. While she was an analyst at Oppenheimer, the New York investment bank, in October 2007 she wrote a damning report on Citigroup, then the world's largest bank, predicting it would cut its dividend. She was criticised for being too pessimistic but was vindicated when the bank was forced to seek government support a year later. She has since set up her own advisory firm and is rated one of the most influential women in American business.

    US states have spent nearly half a trillion dollars more than they have collected in taxes, and face a $1tn hole in their pension funds, said the CBS programme, apocalyptically titled The Day of Reckoning.

    Detroit is cutting police, lighting, road repairs and cleaning services affecting as much as 20% of the population. The city, which has been on the skids for almost two decades with the decline of the US auto industry, does not generate enough wealth to maintain services for its 900,000 inhabitants.

    The nearby state of Illinois has spent twice as much money as it has collected and is about six months behind on creditor payments. The University of Illinois alone is owed $400m, the CBS programme said. The state has a 21% chances of default, more than any other, according to CMA Datavision, a derivatives information provider.

    California has raised state university tuition fees by 32%. Arizona has sold its state capitol and supreme court buildings to investors, and leases them back.

    Potential defaults could also hit Florida, whose booming real estate industry burst two years ago, said Guy J. Benstead, a partner at Cedar Ridge Partners in San Francisco. "We are not out of the woods by any stretch yet," he said.


    "It's all part of the same parcel: public sector indebtedness needs to be cut, it needs a lot of austerity, and it hit the central governments first, and now is hitting local bodies," said Philip Brown, managing director at Citigroup in London.

    In Europe, where cities have traditionally relied more on bank loans and state transfers than bonds, financing habits are changing. The Spanish regions of Catalonia and Valencia have issued debt to their own citizens after financial markets shut their doors because of the regions' high deficits. Moody's cut to the rating of the Basque country on Friday left it still within investment grade but noted "the rapid deterioration in the region's budgetary performance in recent years". It said it expected it to continue over the medium term.

    In Italy, Moody's and S&P have threatened to downgrade Florence, while Venice has been forced over the past few months to put some of the palazzi on its canals up for sale to fund the deficit.

    "Cities are on their own. Governments won't come to their rescue as they have problems of their own," said Andres Rodriguez-Pose, professor of economic geography at the London School of Economics. "Cities will have to pay for their debts, and in some cases they will have to carry out dramatic cuts, such as Detroit's."

    California crunch

    Vallejo, a former US navy town near San Francisco, is still trying to emerge from the Chapter Nine bankruptcy protection it entered in 2008.

    The city, now a symbol of distressed local finances, is still negotiating with the unions, which refused to accept a salary cut plan two years ago. Paul Dyson, an analyst with the Standard & Poor's credit agency, said Vallejo, which is mostly a dormitory town for Oakland or San Francisco employees, did not have enough local industry to sustain its finances and property tax – a major source of local income – plunged with the collapse of the real estate market. The S&P credit-rating agency has a C rating on the town – the lowest level.

    With a population of about 120,000, Vallejo has $195m (£125m) of unfunded pension obligations and has to present a bankruptcy-exit plan to a Sacramento court by 18 January. Since 1937, 619 local US government bodies, mostly small utilities or districts, have filed for bankruptcy, Bloomberg News recently reported. US cities tend to default more than European municipalities as they usually rely on bonds issued to investors, which enter into a default if the creditor misses payments. European towns, by contrast, traditionally depend on bank loans and government bailouts.


    Overdrawn American cities could face financial collapse in 2011, defaulting on hundreds of billions of dollars of borrowings and derailing the US economic recovery. Nor are European cities safe – Florence, Barcelona, Madrid, Venice: all are in trouble
    The essence of freedom is the proper limitation of Government

    #2
    And as services crumble to the residents of the cities, more of those residents will flee, leading to an even lower tax base. As the residents that can afford to leave do so, they are replace by more and more of those dependent upon being taken care of by the producers in society.

    It's a vicious cycle with most large cities doomed to fail.
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      #3
      There was a story about this on 60 Minutes, the CBS news TV show, this last Sunday. This is scary stuff. It makes you wonder if the Great Recession was just a warm up for a much worse depression.

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        #4
        I can see how this will all play out. The United STates could eventually go to China and say we can't pay our debt. China will force us to back down on our support for Taiwan and Hong Kong (and anyone else, possibly South Korea). We agree to stop military support for those countries, China takes them over and becomes an even more powerful economic superpower. The United States begins a massive borrow spree again (like a BK filer who never takes the steps to change his lifestyle).

        One day, United States of China!!! whoooooyaaaaaaa

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          #5
          Originally posted by helpme2010 View Post
          I can see how this will all play out. The United STates could eventually go to China and say we can't pay our debt. China will force us to back down on our support for Taiwan and Hong Kong (and anyone else, possibly South Korea). We agree to stop military support for those countries, China takes them over and becomes an even more powerful economic superpower. The United States begins a massive borrow spree again (like a BK filer who never takes the steps to change his lifestyle).

          One day, United States of China!!! whoooooyaaaaaaa
          I agree that we will lose our influence in the world. I don't really buy the whole china taking over the world thing. Once the full blown depression hits we will consume less chinese garbage at the same time we will pay the chinese debts with worthless monopoly money and they will have one big mess on their hands.

          When the collapse does hit the USA will actually be in better shape then the rest of the world since we don't export very much compared to the rest of the world.

          The countries that depend on exports will be hit with a giant sledge hammer. Also remember these same countries import a lot of food from the US.
          The essence of freedom is the proper limitation of Government

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            #6
            Originally posted by banca rotta View Post
            I agree that we will lose our influence in the world. I don't really buy the whole china taking over the world thing. Once the full blown depression hits we will consume less chinese garbage at the same time we will pay the chinese debts with worthless monopoly money and they will have one big mess on their hands.

            When the collapse does hit the USA will actually be in better shape then the rest of the world since we don't export very much compared to the rest of the world.

            The countries that depend on exports will be hit with a giant sledge hammer. Also remember these same countries import a lot of food from the US.

            I agree that a collapse is coming, just curious when you anticipate it's full impact (along with a real governmental recognition and acknowledgment of a derpression).

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              #7
              Originally posted by AbbeyA View Post
              I agree that a collapse is coming, just curious when you anticipate it's full impact (along with a real governmental recognition and acknowledgment of a derpression).

              It isn't something I am hoping for. I also cannot predict the future. Some actually give a time, date, etc. but no one knows for certain.

              The way it works is psychology. When enough foreigners that invest trillions in America suddenly realize that they will either not be paid back or will be paid back in worthless currency then they will gradually dump their dollar denominated holdings.

              Once this happens the fed will "buy up" our debt only their "buying our debt" is really just money printing.

              The dollar will then lose it's reserve status and as more foreign money leaves the US more printing will happen causing the poor and middle class to be priced out of items such as heating oil, food, gasoline, etc.

              Too many compare this to the 1930's but it will probably resemble argentina.

              My hunch with the city and states that are broke is since you may see more gridlock in washington the fed(bernanke) will end up loaning them money as well to cover their pensions which will just add to the mess.

              Whether one agrees or not we have to cut across the board entitlements, end foreign aid, bring the troops home, close the borders, tariff chinese imports and anything else I left out that you can think of in order to prevent this dollar disaster.
              The essence of freedom is the proper limitation of Government

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                #8
                Originally posted by frogger View Post
                And as services crumble to the residents of the cities, more of those residents will flee, leading to an even lower tax base. As the residents that can afford to leave do so, they are replace by more and more of those dependent upon being taken care of by the producers in society.

                It's a vicious cycle with most large cities doomed to fail.
                Ah, the vicious cycle. Sort of like the day I discovered internet porn.

                Seriously, its just a joke anyway. The important thing for all of us to do is cut down expenses, and get some net worth going. I ripped up a credit card offer today, and I will continue to do so the rest of my life.

                Back to old school life, the way my parents showed me. Its the only way to life and sleep well at night.

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                  #9
                  The sad thing is the United States can easily stay and be the world leader, if we simply would get both sides of the political parties to stop battling and stop trying to be greedy. Imagine if both sides of the political party focused on making our country be the economical country it should be, investing in education, resources, jobs, technology, new inventions, etc. We would rule again. But instead, greed and beauracracy is going to take us down so many notches.

                  I agree China won't rule the world, they will harm themselves along the way in many levels, including a revolt from their own citizens for low wages and polluting the environment. But the example about China should be understood and attention needs to be paid to the problem that we are borrowing and they are lending. We are giving up are technology to them at the same time. The signs can't be clearer. How stupid can we be???

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by helpme2010 View Post
                    The sad thing is the United States can easily stay and be the world leader, if we simply would get both sides of the political parties to stop battling and stop trying to be greedy. Imagine if both sides of the political party focused on making our country be the economical country it should be, investing in education, resources, jobs, technology, new inventions, etc. We would rule again. But instead, greed and beauracracy is going to take us down so many notches.

                    I agree China won't rule the world, they will harm themselves along the way in many levels, including a revolt from their own citizens for low wages and polluting the environment. But the example about China should be understood and attention needs to be paid to the problem that we are borrowing and they are lending. We are giving up are technology to them at the same time. The signs can't be clearer. How stupid can we be???
                    imo, the political parties are not even relevant. its the power brokers, behind the scenes and Wall Street bums, that rule.

                    the politicans are just puppets. Always were, always will be.

                    USA will be ok, in our lifetime. But, eventually, we will fall as the leading world power, likely to China or Russia. Europe will also make a run at things.

                    USA is still the best place to live by a wide margin in this lifetime.

                    Just IMO, I could be talking out of my ass too.

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