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    My (Long) Journey So Far...

    I am only six months post discharge but have decided to get into the house buying garbage despite this. My sister has finally gotten rid of her druggie/alcoholic husband and is now a single mom, unable to afford somewhere to live and support herself and her son at the same time.

    So I went to some lenders for information. I was quoted a wide range of terms with payments on a 75K loan from 660 down to 615 per month. I am choosing the 660 payment. The lender who had the lowest payment didn't tell me until the day I submitted an offer on a house that I was only prequalified, not preapproved even though they pulled my credit report. This bugged me a lot. another lender has only responded to me once and never called back when he said he would so I wrote him off (too bad... he was really good looking ). I have decided to go with my offer from Sibcy Cline's specialty lending department. Everything has already been through an underwriter with SC so I know that what they told me I could borrow would actually be able to finance with them.

    The terms are 10.5% (up from where they would have been last month thanks to Ohio's new lending laws) on a 30 year fixed, 50 year amoritization. This way my payments are always the same and I will either have re-fied or sold the home LONG before the balloon would hit. I need to have seller paid closing costs of 6% which includes an unknown number of points and the actual closing costs.

    So I went hunting. I was refferred to my agent through a coworker and really liked him after I met him. He tells me what he thinks straight up. I really appreciate this since he'll do it even if I don't like what he's telling me. I've looked at 29 or 30 houses. A couple I liked and would have worked and a couple were in an area my parents didn't really like but I did. The one that I put an offer on (story about this in a minute) is about 35 minutes north in an area that I wasn't really looking in. This house popped up on a day that my agent and I were going out and had no pictures or room dimensions but he wanted to take me to see it based upon the description. I said sure, what the hell. It was described as being totally updated from roof, to floors, to kitchen cabinets and bathrooms. All for only $74,900.

    It turned out to be a nice little brick ranch on a very busy street, very nicely updated, underpriced, with a HUGE back yard for my nephew to play in away from the busy road. So I put an offer on it that day. So now the story of trying to buy this house begins. My offer got in to the selling agent around 6pm. I offered 77K so that the seller only pays about half the closing and the other half would get wrapped into my loan. At 9pm I get a call from my agent saying that the other agent called him to say that a second offer had just come in. Ok, I'd know by noon the next day one way or the other because that's how we wrote it into the contract. Well, the next morning we were told that the seller was going with the other offer.

    Making a really long story short here...

    The seller is going through a divorce and needed to get rid of the house quickly. He had owned it and used it as a rental property since 1985. We ammended my offer to become the first backup and promptly forgot about this house and began looking at more. Two days ago my agent called me to say that the seller himself called about my offer. He's sick of being jerked around by the other buyers and wanted to get out of that contract and accept mine. Yesterday we found out that the seller has until tomorrow per the contract to secure financing before the seller can get out of the contract and accept mine.

    Here are some tidbits we found out along the way about the other agent and the sellers:

    The other agent waited to write the other offer until after mine came in. He became a dual agent in this instance and so was able to see my offer and write a better one.

    The selling agent and the buyer were college roommates.

    The other buyers submitted a preapproval letter with their offer but have been unble to secure financing at three different lenders so far.

    The seller, after hearing why I was buying a house, really wishes that he had chosen my offer to begin with.

    I'll know tomorrow if my offer becomes the active purchase contract or if the other buyer managed to somehow get financing. I'll post an update tomorrow or Friday.
    Last edited by krobin02; 01-24-2007, 06:43 AM. Reason: correcting typing errors
    Filed Pro-se: 01/18/06
    341 meeting: 02/14/2006
    Objection Deadline: 04/17/06
    Discharge: 06/13/2006
    Closed: 06/21/2006

    Credit cards

    06/25/06, reopened a Discover that I closed before my bk, $1500 limit
    July 2006, Target Redcard $200 limit
    August 2006, Hooters MC $1750 limit

    #2
    Good Luck on your venture.........

    A word of caution, just make sure your housepayments are within your income only...... do not base it on you and your sister together..... the future is unknown....

    Just like some realtors to play two ends against the middle to jack the price up........ some are known for that..... ups their commission....

    Good luck
    Minny

    "It's amazing the paths that our feet sometimes follow in life".

    My suggestions are from "personal experience" and research only. Do not consider this as legal advice. Each bankruptcy case is different.

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      #3
      You may be able to get a lower rate if you put your offer in for the home for more then $75k the limit is loans $75k and below if you offer $75,001 for the home you should get a lower rate. If you have a chance post your GFE here, I cam tell you what he is making on your loan. Have they produced a GFE for you? Did they tell you what your scores were?
      Last edited by MTG_BANKER_OH; 01-26-2007, 05:50 AM. Reason: more questions
      Nick Kusan

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        #4
        Originally posted by MTG_BANKER_OH View Post
        You may be able to get a lower rate if you put your offer in for the home for more then $75k the limit is loans $75k and below if you offer $75,001 for the home you should get a lower rate. If you have a chance post your GFE here, I cam tell you what he is making on your loan. Have they produced a GFE for you? Did they tell you what your scores were?
        Just so were all on the same page....

        GFE = Good Faith Estimate.

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          #5
          i was allowed to glance at the GFE when I did the application but have not received a copy for myself. I was not offered a lower rate for going above 75K. My middle score at both places that pulled my report was 616.

          I also did not get that house. The slimy buyer got financing on Friday and the lender called the selling agent to say that all paperowrk on the loan could be completed today (Monday) and the owner was ok with that. So it's back to the drawing board for me.
          Filed Pro-se: 01/18/06
          341 meeting: 02/14/2006
          Objection Deadline: 04/17/06
          Discharge: 06/13/2006
          Closed: 06/21/2006

          Credit cards

          06/25/06, reopened a Discover that I closed before my bk, $1500 limit
          July 2006, Target Redcard $200 limit
          August 2006, Hooters MC $1750 limit

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            #6
            i know how you feel. i've been actively house shopping for 6 months. i had 2 houses sniped from under me because of listing agents that did not want to split commissions with my buyers agent. now i finally got an accepted offer on a house i like. so hopefully nothing goes wrong. good luck!

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              #7
              Originally posted by angelaohio View Post
              i know how you feel. i've been actively house shopping for 6 months. i had 2 houses sniped from under me because of listing agents that did not want to split commissions with my buyers agent. now i finally got an accepted offer on a house i like. so hopefully nothing goes wrong. good luck!
              If you feel that you were not treated fairly with your offer you can call their broker and discuss it with them or go to the board of realtors in your area and bring it up with them as well. I ahve seen it happen many times, I have even seen it happen where the seller gets a lower offer but since the buyer is the listing agents customer they have taken the lower offer, maybe because the listing agent is not presenting the offer to the seller, just to they can get their 6% commission. There are a lot of shady things happening out there because of greed. It is important you know who you work with before you get involved with anyone in the real estate business.
              Nick Kusan

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                #8
                My heart goes out to you....

                We had the same thing happen to us back when we first moved to FL.

                We found a cute 3/2 on the inside of an offshoot of Tampa Bay....needless to say the owner wanted a 5 year balloon...the agent selling the house was, of course, an old friend of the owner. Our agent told us to offer a mortgage...another offer came in at the same time and even though we offered $280K, he went with their offer of $275 w/the balloon...my Xhusand wouldn't get out of bed for a week.....This was my first real estate experience & it freaked me out....

                I thought it was just Florida that had weird deals, but apparently from your story, it's EVERYWHERE!!!

                I ended up going to the infamous Bert Rodgers School of Real Estate after that one! Took the week and a half class....Got my license (every third person in FL has theirs....) and sold island homes for awhile...very hard to break into re in Florida as everyone who REALLY sells has been doing if FOREVER....

                Good luck with the next house!
                Filed Oct 2005discharged February 2007,Shapeless in the fire's glow, tell me if you think you know,
                Who it was we were below, where we've been and where we go

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                  #9
                  It's not just sellers that are wierd these days. Buyers are too.

                  When Hubby and I bought our first house, the seller paid their costs. We paid our costs. That was just the way it went. If a seller was trying to move a house quicker, sellers would offer up incentives. $2K carpet allowance if the carpet was older. $X off your closing costs/points. But it was a case by case offer. Certainly not a standard practice.

                  When we just went thru selling our last house, we had one set of buyers make a lowball offer where they were wanting us to pay all of their closing costs!! They happened to be from Florida, BTW. So maybe that explains it.

                  The buyers were moving to town thru a Sprint corporate relocation program. I bet money Sprint was picking up the tab for their employee to purchase whatever home they selected. They were trying to get us to pay their costs out of our proceeds AND pocket money from Sprint to boot. How GREEDY!!
                  Filed Ch 7 - 09/06
                  Discharged - 12/2006
                  Officially Declared No Asset - 03/2007
                  Closed - 04/2007

                  I am not an attorney. My comments are based on personal experience and research. Always consult an attorney in your area to address concerns related to your particular situation.

                  Another good thing about being poor is that when you are seventy your children will not have declared you legally insane in order to gain control of your estate. - Woody Allen...

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by AMISLANDER View Post
                    <snip>...my Xhusand wouldn't get out of bed for a week.....<snip>
                    Your ex-husband wouldn't get out of bed for a week because he lost out on a house?

                    Geez, I can see why you're no longer married to him! Did you tell him to suck it up and stop acting like a two year old?

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                      #11
                      Originally posted by BK'd-Betty View Post
                      Your ex-husband wouldn't get out of bed for a week because he lost out on a house?

                      Geez, I can see why you're no longer married to him! Did you tell him to suck it up and stop acting like a two year old?

                      well, he was pissed because now (although cash flow was no problem, essentially), he had to buy a piece of land for about 25K more that had no house on it....karma got him, I divorced him, he had to pay me $, plus alimony, plus the house got the black mold and he got chronic fatigue....
                      Filed Oct 2005discharged February 2007,Shapeless in the fire's glow, tell me if you think you know,
                      Who it was we were below, where we've been and where we go

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