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    what is the lowest 13 plan payment . isnt it 100.00 per month . what is the lowest any of you heard of. thanks war eagle 08 14-0

    #2
    Originally posted by lp1967 View Post
    what is the lowest 13 plan payment . isnt it 100.00 per month . what is the lowest any of you heard of. thanks war eagle 08 14-0
    Unfortunately it isn't that simple, lp.

    The $100 you've heard about is the absolute minimum amount of calculated disposable income every month that could potentially support a Ch 13 plan. That doesn't mean your Ch 13 payment will be $100/month.

    The amount of the actual monthly payment is calculated through a complex cross-comparison of gross income vs. expenses vs. exemptions on the Means Test and Schedules. It's possible in some courts to file Ch 13 and the only things that ends up being paid back are your lawyer's fees and the trustee's admin fee. This is very unusual and requires a very unique set of financial circumstances, but it is possible.

    The best thing you can do if you are considered filing Ch 13 (or Ch 7) is to make free or low-cost initial consultation appointments with 3-4 experienced bankruptcy lawyers in your area. There's no obligation, and the visits will help you understand more clearly what's going to be possible and what's not in your situation.

    Hang in there - keep asking questions - we'll help you sort things out as best we can.
    I am not a lawyer and this is not legal advice nor a statement of the law - only a lawyer can provide those.

    06/01/06 - Filed Ch 13
    06/28/06 - 341 Meeting
    07/18/06 - Confirmation Hearing - not confirmed, 3 objections
    10/05/06 - Hearing to resolve 2 trustee objections
    01/24/07 - Judge dismisses mortgage company objection
    09/27/07 - Confirmed at last!
    06/10/11 - Trustee confirms all payments made
    08/10/11 - DISCHARGED !

    10/02/11 - CASE CLOSED
    Countdown: 60 months paid, 0 months to go

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      #3
      thanks for info. i was just wondering if any one had a really low payment . my wife is the only one working , could we file 13 ?

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        #4
        Originally posted by lrprn View Post
        It's possible in some courts to file Ch 13 and the only things that ends up being paid back are your lawyer's fees and the trustee's admin fee. This is very unusual and requires a very unique set of financial circumstances, but it is possible.
        This is the situation that I ended up with. The lawyer I have specializes in setting this up. I pay $199/mo for 11 months. That pays the attorney and the trustee and i'm done.
        Oct 9, 2007 - Filed my Chapter 13! Scores: 527/509/528
        Jan 1, 2009 - Sent in my last payment! Scores: 635/628/585!
        Feb 11, 2009 - DISCHARGED & CLOSED!
        I AM NOT A LAWYER. ANYTHING I SAY IS NOT LEGAL ADVICE.

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          #5
          Originally posted by lp1967 View Post
          thanks for info. i was just wondering if any one had a really low payment . my wife is the only one working , could we file 13 ?
          What decides if you can file Ch 13 is if sufficient disposable income shows on your completed Means Test and Schedules. If you don't show sufficient disposable income to support a Ch 13 plan that pays your non-secured creditors at least as much as they would get if you filed Ch 7, then you can't file Ch 13.

          The best thing you can do to find out what's going to be possible in your situation is to make free or low-cost initial consultation appointments with 3-4 experienced bankruptcy lawyers in your area. You'll learn a great deal about which chapter it's likely you can file plus any potential problems you may encounter if you file.

          Hang in there. You are starting this journey out the right way - by learning as much as you can about bankruptcy. Keep posting questions - we'll help you figure things out as best we can.
          I am not a lawyer and this is not legal advice nor a statement of the law - only a lawyer can provide those.

          06/01/06 - Filed Ch 13
          06/28/06 - 341 Meeting
          07/18/06 - Confirmation Hearing - not confirmed, 3 objections
          10/05/06 - Hearing to resolve 2 trustee objections
          01/24/07 - Judge dismisses mortgage company objection
          09/27/07 - Confirmed at last!
          06/10/11 - Trustee confirms all payments made
          08/10/11 - DISCHARGED !

          10/02/11 - CASE CLOSED
          Countdown: 60 months paid, 0 months to go

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            #6
            wow i thought it was a minimum 36 months.

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              #7
              interesting, I didnt realize payments could be that low. At the same time I know each case is different as well. I was just thinking...what is the average amt, most of you are able to save each month once all of your expenses have been paid? Is a savings of $200 month possible on these plans?

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                #8
                My payment is $222/month for 60-months.

                This payment doesn't hurt too much but I have to watch everything else - which is what being in a Chapter 13 payment plan is all about. I'm not eating steak, but I'm not eating beans everyday either.

                For me - the $222 payment is MUCH better than struggling to make just the minimum payments on the credit cards - which were significantly more.

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                  #9
                  $222 should be a piece of cake!!! I can make that online on the side easily.....
                  Filed: October 1, 2007 341: December 10, 2007
                  CONFIRMED: December 10, 2007
                  Payment: $825 / Mo. for 5 Years-29 MONTHS OF Pmts Down 23 to go!

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by MajorMike View Post
                    $222 should be a piece of cake!!! I can make that online on the side easily.....
                    Dude. You DO NOT GET IT do you?????????? Who are you to determine if a certain payment amount should be a piece of cake for the poster?

                    Did you not read
                    This payment doesn't hurt too much but I have to watch everything else - which is what being in a Chapter 13 payment plan is all about.
                    Want a cookie for being able to make $222 online on the side easily? If it's that easy for you to make that online on the side, why are you in bk????? Or did you throw that comment in to prove that you are better than the poster if they do not have the time/resources to make the $$ online?
                    Filed 07/07, $120k unsecured debt
                    Plan: $400 (includes cram down) 60 months
                    Brilliant attorney, decent trustee, awesome plan

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                      #11
                      Querty, you have ALWAYS had a problem with me....why is that?
                      I never said I was better then the poster. $222 is NOT hard to do on the side...is all I'm saying. I'm in BK to stop the interest I'm paying and get it paid off. If I had $222 to pay, I probably would not be in BK. I have disabled friends that work side jobs to afford things. Why don't you please keep your comments to yourself and stop butting in all the time. You are a real piece of work.
                      I'm done.
                      Filed: October 1, 2007 341: December 10, 2007
                      CONFIRMED: December 10, 2007
                      Payment: $825 / Mo. for 5 Years-29 MONTHS OF Pmts Down 23 to go!

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                        #12
                        All I know is that there where many many times I didn't have $2 in my pocket to even buy a piece of cake, let alone $222. You don't know whether that person can do something on the side or not. Saying you can do something piece of cake puts down the person who can't, even if you don't mean it that way.
                        Last edited by holding on; 06-01-2008, 10:35 PM.
                        May 2008: Filed Chapter 13
                        Jan 2010: Plan Amended and Confirmed! finally plan funds = total funds due!
                        Jul 2013: 5 years done! Trustee set to discharge! Woo hoooo!

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                          #13
                          MM you have no clue how a different district/trustee would handle extra income not stated in the plan. While your trustee/district may approve of an extra $2,664 a year ($222 a month), another may frown on it and who knows what could happen to the filer--an audit, a monthly increase, nothing, etc.
                          Filed 07/07, $120k unsecured debt
                          Plan: $400 (includes cram down) 60 months
                          Brilliant attorney, decent trustee, awesome plan

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                            #14
                            Originally posted by EveryDayAdam View Post
                            This is the situation that I ended up with.
                            The lawyer I have specializes in setting this up. I pay $199/mo for 11 months. That pays the attorney and the trustee and i'm done.
                            That sounds almost too good to be true! So how much debt was out there - unsecured that was discharged? What kind of debt? How do you get out of paying for 36-60 months?

                            We were going to do a Chapter 7, but Lawyer is trying to talk us into a 13. We hardly have any disposable income at all - not sure we even qualify to do a 13.

                            Do you - or does anyone - know what the minimum qualification is to even do a 13?

                            Example: Current expenses with 2 cars does not leave but about $100 for food /misc. Trying unsucessfully to sell one car (can we give it up in a 13?). Can get it to about $470 if we sell or turn the car back in, get rid of its insurance and gas, and if we can get a cheaper plan on cell phones (we have no home phone and want to keep these). But that $470 includes food and personal and misc.

                            Any thoughts??
                            Filed Ch 7 -- July 9, 2008
                            341 mtg ---- August 14, 2008
                            Discharged ---- October 17, 2008
                            Closed --------- December 11, 2009!

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                              #15
                              And your post has what to do with the OP's question?

                              Originally posted by MajorMike View Post
                              $222 should be a piece of cake!!! I can make that online on the side easily.....

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