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    Questions about selling a house in a 13

    I'm about six months into a Ch 13. In a few months, all the kids will have finished school and be out on their own. Downsizing seems prudent. The 1st and 2nd mortgages total nearly $2000, and we could rent a very nice house for about half of that. We're self-employed and our financials have changed since I filed, so we plan to ask the trustee for a lower payment, as well.

    I had a realtor friend come by last night who ran comps on the house. The mortgages total $163,000 (1st mortgage = $135k, 2nd mortgage = $28k). His best, reasonable estimate was that the house would sell at around $140,000.

    If I understand it correctly, it IS possible to lien strip the 2nd mortgage while in a 13 - provided the sale and the strip are approved by the trustee, of course.

    In a situation like this, are the commissions, closing costs, etc., considered reasonable and necessary, just as they would be in a non-BK sale? When I look at this from the 2nd mortgage company's perspective, as the trustee is supposed to do, it seems that the costs associated with selling the house are reducing the 2nd's share of the sale proceeds. Yet clearly selling the house is in my best interest, as the filer. I guess I'm seeking some insight as to the trustee's perspective here, and what the chances of his approval might be.

    If approved, I'll be walking away with no sale proceeds, but with lower future housing payments.

    Pre-BK options would be to voluntarily give the house back to the 1st mortgage holder, which would leave the 2nd mortgage with nothing (DIL?); and letting it go to foreclosure. Are these options while already in a 13? And what would the advantages be?

    #2
    You are already in a Chapter 13 Plan. In order to sell your home you need trustee approval as it appears you well know so the first place to turn if you seriously want to consider that is your attorney who will discuss with you and then he will approach the trustee. Since you are already in a 13 your only other option iso see if you can modify your plan since you state your income has changed. Unfortunately, when in a Chapter 13 what we want to do is not always what we can or will be allowed to do. All circumstances are different. You also must also take a hard look at this housing market. Will your house sell in a reasonable period of time? Real Estate agents, friends or not, will tell you anything to get a sale/commission. People are taking their houses off the market right and left because they have not sold in over a year even with prices lowered. I suggest discussing your situation, plans and current financial state with your attorney so you can actually find out what you can or cannot do. Best of luck to you
    _________________________________________
    Filed 5 Year Chapter 13: April 2002
    Early Buy-Out: April 2006
    Discharge: August 2006

    "A credit card is a snake in your pocket"

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      #3
      Hey now Flam, don't make those blanket statements about real estate agents.

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        #4
        Originally posted by fltoo View Post
        Hey now Flam, don't make those blanket statements about real estate agents.
        LOL! Agree...should have said "some" but realize we have a real estate close long-term friend who told us directly they will do anything to get a listing in this economy and have been prompted to do so...it's business and everyone needs to make money. It's unfortunate for many right now and lots of struggling going on...
        _________________________________________
        Filed 5 Year Chapter 13: April 2002
        Early Buy-Out: April 2006
        Discharge: August 2006

        "A credit card is a snake in your pocket"

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          #5
          LOL!

          I appreciate the response and candor. My realtor friend actually delivered bad news, as my house has apparently dropped in value from $172k to $140k in the past year. I called on him rather than the neighborhood "go-getter" realtors because I knew he'd be honest with me. Will it sell? Definitely, if it's priced right. The development is in high demand for young families with kids, as it's convenient to the city, across the street from a middle school, and within 1/2 mile of every conceivable store chain.

          I take it, then, that a DIL or a foreclosure isn't a possibility now that I'm already in a 13?

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