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    Retirement loan while in Ch. 7

    I've had an emergency come up and the only way I can get the funds for it are to borrow a couple of grand from my retirement fund. I don't particularly want to, but it is what it is.

    Can I do that while in Ch. 7? Had my 341 in July and should be discharged around Sept. 10. Am I able to access this money prior to discharge?
    Ch. 7 filed: 6/13/08, Friday the 13th!
    341 hearing: 7/10/08
    Last day for objections: 9/8/08
    Discharged: 9/18/08

    #2
    Hi bal_ny: I'm so sorry to hear about your emergency. Are you sure you can't borrow the funds from a relative? Taking from your retirement fund--which you can do, I'm pretty sure; others will correct me if I'm wrong --is never a good idea if you can avoid it. Because it almost never gets paid back, and you are usually hit with a huge tax liability.

    Good luck to you.
    "To go bravely forward is to invite a miracle."

    "Worry is the darkroom where negatives are formed."

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      #3
      The one thing you wouldn't want to do is create/receive any assets while in active BK. Not saying the Trustee would be looking for it, but why run the risk? And I agree with AngelinaCat that you shouldn't raid your retirement funds if you do not have to.
      Bankruptcy History:
      Chapter 7 filed - 10/12/2005 - Asset
      Discharged - 02/16/2006
      Case Closed - 11/08/2007

      A banker is a fellow who lends you his umbrella when the sun is shining and wants it back the minute it begins to rain ~ Mark Twain

      All suggestions are based on personal experience and research and SHOULD NOT be construed as legal advice as I am NOT an attorney. Always consult with competent counsel in your area with regards to your particular situation.

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        #4
        I am not by any means advocating it however I have wondered...how would anyone even know if you received an asset after your 341? Say you sell a car that you own outright free and clear or do cash in retirement funds....how is that tracked to your BK? I guess I figured that the trustees are so swamped right now why bring on more work for themselves. Just stuff I have wondered....

        --------71 Days and counting after 341-----
        Filed!!04/23/2008[X] 341 5/27/2008[X]Converted to asset case 5/26/2008 [X]
        DISCHARGE 08/12/2008[X]
        Converted to NO Asset case 12/15/2008[X]
        Closed 12/16/2008 [X]:yahoo::yahoo::yahoo:

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          #5
          Our attorney made it very clear that we were NOT to touch our 401k even for a dime until after discharge/closing. He said to just forget the money even exists until that time.
          5/29 Filed 7~ 341-on 6/24
          8/27-DISCHARGED
          11/2 - CLOSED
          EQ-604 EX-605 TU-560 ~4.5 months after discharge

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            #6
            Ahh, the catch-all excuse "emergency" for poor financial decisions.

            I am willing to give you the benefit of the doubt, but unless someone is about to die in the next day and you need $5k to buy the treatment that will save them, it really isn't an emergency now is it

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              #7
              HHM, you made me giggle.

              Nope, no one is going to die if I can't get the money. "Emergency" might be better called "something that's not the end of the world, but it would be a huge load off my mind if I could take care of this."

              Thanks for your responses, everyone.
              Ch. 7 filed: 6/13/08, Friday the 13th!
              341 hearing: 7/10/08
              Last day for objections: 9/8/08
              Discharged: 9/18/08

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