Hi everyone, I got a letter is the mail today and the UST is performing an audit... Just my luck. They are asking for 2 years of cc statements, 2 years ultities bills, transportation expense proof, like gas and tolls, etc. lease agreements on vehicles, etc. is this normal? I am a no asset case BK7. The letter says they are reviewing for ABUSE... What do they mean by that? My case was basically cut and dry, mosting all CC debt. SHould I be worried? And what are they looking to do? Everytime, we turn the corner its a different obstacle. Is this normal?
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Oh, I'm so sorry to hear that, Jesse. The audits are supposed to be random, although depending on the trustee it could be truly random or triggered by some suspicion of fraud. I seem to remember that you were way over median? That's probably what attracted attention, and they just want to be sure your deductions are kosher. If your case is pretty simple and you've kept decent records (and your attorney knows what he's doing), you probably don't have much to worry about - it's just a huge annoyance. Good luck.Originally posted by jessegirl View PostHi everyone, I got a letter is the mail today and the UST is performing an audit... Just my luck. They are asking for 2 years of cc statements, 2 years ultities bills, transportation expense proof, like gas and tolls, etc. lease agreements on vehicles, etc. is this normal? I am a no asset case BK7. The letter says they are reviewing for ABUSE... What do they mean by that? My case was basically cut and dry, mosting all CC debt. SHould I be worried? And what are they looking to do? Everytime, we turn the corner its a different obstacle. Is this normal?Filed chapter 7: June 9, 2008
341 meeting: July 18, 2008
last day for objections: September 16, 2008
DISCHARGED September 18, 2008 - CLOSED September 29, 2008
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Maybe Difficult since you are in the stay what does your lawyer sayOriginally posted by jessegirl View PostI have a problem, cause I do not have 24 months of credit card statements or utilities bills either. What do I do? Do you think the CC companies will work with me?
ThanksChapter 7 07/30/2008
341 09/17/2008
Discharge 11/21/2008
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My lawyer is pissing me off. I called there today and the paralegal won't get on the phone, they leave me holding and then the secretary somes on and says make an appointment. I say for what? I have a few questions and need answers now. SO she says email her. I did, but needless to say, they didn't answer. It the same old story, they are great and always take your call, ut as soon as you pay in full, they blow you off... I am soooo feedup.. Make head feels like is is going to explode. Who the hell keeps copies of cc statements and utilities for that long. I am a terrible record keeper, but I mean give me a break 2 years!!!
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Jesse, so sorry to hear of all the bs you are having to go through.
I guess we can all learn from this.I guess we should always assume that the UST or possibly others may want outdated documents. I would say for those who are planning on filing or still have active accounts should download statements from as far back as possible for any and all accounts.Save all receipts even if they are filed in a shoe box.Plan for you BK if at all possible.And the attorney you have should be a little more attentive to his clients needs....what a jerk...Good Luck Please let us know how it goes.
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are you over the mean income for your state??Originally posted by jessegirl View PostHi everyone, I got a letter is the mail today and the UST is performing an audit... Just my luck. They are asking for 2 years of cc statements, 2 years ultities bills, transportation expense proof, like gas and tolls, etc. lease agreements on vehicles, etc. is this normal? I am a no asset case BK7. The letter says they are reviewing for ABUSE... What do they mean by that? My case was basically cut and dry, mosting all CC debt. SHould I be worried? And what are they looking to do? Everytime, we turn the corner its a different obstacle. Is this normal?
Just because you pass the means test on paper it doesn't guarantee you. If you are over the mean you will have to prove all your expenses to the UST.
Otherwise his job is to push you into a Chapter 13.Last edited by biotechsolution; 10-10-2008, 12:13 PM.
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Personally I think that audits of bankruptcy filings will increase dramatically especially for filers who were lucky enough to have Chapter 7s discharged.
While this is not necessarily a part of the "bailout" plan, it would let me to believe that these audits would probably result in cases being converted to 13s where hard-up creditors would at least be partially repaid.
We, the consumers are not being bailed out, the banks are.
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Yes, I over the median.
magyar - you are right! they bail out the banks and then us comsumers who don't have a pot to piss in have to worry...
Exactly what is abuse? Everything on my petition is real, nothing made up and no lies, I have nothing to hide, but now i cannot produce the 24 months of credit card statements and they also want me to prove that our transportation eexpenses, which I have not kept my gas receipts or tolls receipts. I didn't think i had to, my lawyer never said they COULD ask for this stuff, so make sure you keep all receipts.
I am sick with worry. Worry about what? I am worried about the uncertain. Now, will the US Trustee be at my 341 too? Also, explain to me what is abuse. Thanks
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