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    Depreciation of business assets

    Being self-employed and working from home, I asked my CPA several months ago (prior to filing Chapter 7) what would be the effect concerning the IRS if I were to file. My two main questions referred to business realted equipment purchases and any business interest deducted in the past relating to those equipment purchases. Without hesitation he said that a "discharge" meant that you are forgiven of all past debts effective on the day of discharge and that as far as the IRS was concerned it would not affect any past deductions for depreciated assets or business loan interest paid relating to those assets. Did my CPA give me correct advice?

    Example: You buy a computer for your business at say $3000 which you finance starting in 2003 on a credit card. The interest on that equipment is deducted each year at the actual amount paid and the equipment is depreciated say over 3 years. You file Chapter 7 in 2004 a year later and are discharged that year. Obviously AFTER the discharge you no longer can deduct any more interest because you no longer owe or pay any interest - the debt was discharged. The computer which is an asset that was charged and partially paid off and partially depreciated is below the exemption limit.

    As I understand in this example, you would retain the computer. One question is would you continue to depreciate the asset in 2005 even though you never finished paying for it or does the IRS treat it as though it is just no longer an asset?

    My other question is if you have been purchasing business equipment and software every year for 20 years leading up to filing Chapter 7, how could you be accused of tax fraud just because you filed Chapter 7 and had taken deductions in recent years and were still depreciating some equipment? Doesn't everyone have legitimate IRS tax deductions for which they have received the benefits of those deductions every year leading up to filing Chapter 7? Is everyone who files Chapter 7 expected to pay back the IRS for deductions received for the years leading up to filing.

    #2
    this is no answer really but i do know that some tax benefits from the past can die off when you file bk and can only be used up until the tax year before the year of the discharge. i.e carry forward type losses, etc. so if discharge is 2006, then when you file 2005 taxes in 2006 you can still use the benefits as normal. but it stops in 2006.

    its sort of like giving it all up when your estate transfers to the trustee. and it never gets tranferred back.

    however, way to complicated for most to answer. i would go post here and tell us what he says. look for the only good expert at this site (which sucks ass by the way except for taxagent. he is the only true helpful one imo)

    the rest of the attorneys and wanna be 'legal secretarys' are idiots. usless, rambling and worthless. ask for taxagent. he is the best.



    or figure out what category you want to post in.



    god i hate that site. bunch of usless ignants in the bankruptcy section. now THAT makes me want to hurl! lol
    Last edited by bkfiler; 01-13-2006, 10:59 PM.
    Im not an attorney or a trustee. You cant trust me either though!

    [x] - Done with 341? Join the 60 Day Club! ___________[x] - Im Discharged! Whoo Hooo!
    [x] - Poll: Should I File Pro-Se ____________________[x] - New BK Law: Median Income, Means Testing and Presumptive Abuse
    [x] - Zombie Debt Collectors Dig Up Your Old Mistakes _-[x] - Bankruptcy Law Resource
    [x] - Need A Fast Answer? Available 24/7!--__________[x] - Dont Be A Hero On Your Budget - You Wont Get An Award!

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      #3
      bkfiler, Thanks I will research this further.

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        #4
        Don't get too hung up on what bk does to your depreciation schedule. It is just one of many accounting adjustments that have to be reconciled. If I remember correctly from your other post, the trustee tapped you for another $3k instead of touching your business assets. Your business accounting should be unaffected by the bk.

        If you want to dig further, here is the IRS's Bk Tax Guide. http://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-pdf/p908.pdf

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          #5
          im not so sure that all 'business accounting' will be unaffected by a bk. its not that easy to know what is and what isnt. it needs much furhter research imo and by an accountant that knows bk as well.

          for example, i think that any carry forward benefits from losses in prior years no longer belong to the business as the trustee/court/fed gov take them, as they do everything during a bk, and they are not returned once the debtor is discharged.
          Last edited by bkfiler; 01-14-2006, 09:00 AM.
          Im not an attorney or a trustee. You cant trust me either though!

          [x] - Done with 341? Join the 60 Day Club! ___________[x] - Im Discharged! Whoo Hooo!
          [x] - Poll: Should I File Pro-Se ____________________[x] - New BK Law: Median Income, Means Testing and Presumptive Abuse
          [x] - Zombie Debt Collectors Dig Up Your Old Mistakes _-[x] - Bankruptcy Law Resource
          [x] - Need A Fast Answer? Available 24/7!--__________[x] - Dont Be A Hero On Your Budget - You Wont Get An Award!

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            #6
            I imagine it wil be touch and go for at least a couple of years, but 2 more years of Hell and uncertainty is better that the never ending Hell I was facing for certain.

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              #7
              If her business was a sole proprietorship, her business accounting would be affected.

              From the other posts by Dana, she owns a corporation and filed personal bk but not corp bk. The internal accounting of her corp would be unaffected by the bk because, from my understanding, he didn't actually touch the corp. He just made her cough up another $3,000 in her personal bk.

              I would talk to your accountant though because I don't know everything - I just think I do.
              Last edited by JimH; 01-14-2006, 07:58 PM.

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                #8
                well lets figure out how smart you are...

                list everything you dont know.
                Im not an attorney or a trustee. You cant trust me either though!

                [x] - Done with 341? Join the 60 Day Club! ___________[x] - Im Discharged! Whoo Hooo!
                [x] - Poll: Should I File Pro-Se ____________________[x] - New BK Law: Median Income, Means Testing and Presumptive Abuse
                [x] - Zombie Debt Collectors Dig Up Your Old Mistakes _-[x] - Bankruptcy Law Resource
                [x] - Need A Fast Answer? Available 24/7!--__________[x] - Dont Be A Hero On Your Budget - You Wont Get An Award!

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                  #9
                  In light of my current circumstances, it's obvious there is more for me to learn.

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                    #10
                    i promise you that you will never be in this situation again. i swear by it.



                    the next time, your discharge date will be different.
                    Im not an attorney or a trustee. You cant trust me either though!

                    [x] - Done with 341? Join the 60 Day Club! ___________[x] - Im Discharged! Whoo Hooo!
                    [x] - Poll: Should I File Pro-Se ____________________[x] - New BK Law: Median Income, Means Testing and Presumptive Abuse
                    [x] - Zombie Debt Collectors Dig Up Your Old Mistakes _-[x] - Bankruptcy Law Resource
                    [x] - Need A Fast Answer? Available 24/7!--__________[x] - Dont Be A Hero On Your Budget - You Wont Get An Award!

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