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    debt, credit councelling, fancy car, oh my!

    Greetings:

    I am in an interesting situation which I plan to consult a bankruptcy lawyer about in the very near future, but am also interested in the experiences of others about this before I actually proceed. I'm at a "decision point" right now, and need to make a final decision.

    In any case, to sum up my history -- I make about 60k a year, single, live alone, and have about 70k in credit card debt. Literally 100% of my debt is in credit cards, no medical or secured loans. I got myself into this situation attempting to start a business during the dot-com boom, and things went south during the dot-com bust. Since then I've been struggling to get myself back on my feet.

    I've been on a credit councelling program for about 1.5 years now, and it has been going OK, however, every month I literally am left with about $200 to pay for food and gas after all bills are taken care of. I talked with my credit councelling service, and they told me to contact each creditor to see if they would allow the monthly deposit that is sent to them to be reduced, only 1 creditor agreed, and the difference was only $30 a month, which certainly won't help matters much. I'm sick of having 0$ in my account (or a negative ammt!) each month, and no ability to generate any kind of savings, so I feel that bankruptcy might be my only choice.

    Before I got myself into this situation, I bought a very nice car (2001 Audi TT), which currently has about 100k miles on it. It is valued at about 14k blue book, so I suspect this would be the first item to be saught after by a Trustee. The problem is, the car is in both mine and my father's name (co-owners), I share an insurance policy with him, which is why it is like this.

    So, I have numerous questions that I'm curious about everyone's thoughts on -- I of course will consult with a lawyer, but I also like to get as much input from people who've been through this as I can.

    First, what are the odds of me even being accepted for chapter 7? I'm afraid of Chapter 13, only because I've been doing this repayment plan through a credit councellor for 1.5 years, and it just doesn't work, its causing me more stress than before I was on the plan. Does the fact that I am single, unmarried, have a good paying job, and don't own a home (I rent) mean that I won't likely be accepted for chapter 7?

    Further, what are the odds that my car will be taken? The car is paid for in full (in fact, it was paid with cash, I had received a large stock payment from when we sold our company about 5 years ago, and paid for the car with that stock money) -- If they want to take the car, what implications are there for my father, since his name is on the car as well? I am willing to surrender the car, but the problem is I don't have the cash to be able to purchase a replacement cheaper car, thus, I would be stuck without a mode of transportation to work (public transportation isn't a real possibility for where I live and where my office is). I love the car, but would be willing to let it go if some kind of solution could be made so that I can still get to work without any period of interruption in my means of travel.

    I'm also curious about how my payments to the credit councelling agency would appear to a trustee. I've read a lot about how people have to be not making any payments to creditors for a while prior to filing chapter 7, is this true? If I stop making payments, my bank account will balloon rather quickly (in just one month I would likely have about 2000$ in the account). Will this cause me to also be denied chapter 7? How does this all work? Can I still file now, even though I've been making monthly payments to the credit councelling service? I would of course drop myself from the program before filing, but I'm wondering how long I should wait before filing after dropping the program, and also, what implications the extra money in my bank account would be..

    So, that's my scenario in a nutshell. I'm at my wit's end, I can't stand living paycheck to paycheck anymore, I can't afford to even persue a relationship with someone, so I've remained single throughout all of this, its really been killing me inside. I need a resolution sometime soon before I pop, and since the creditors aren't willing to negotiate what I pay them monthly, I think I'm left with one choice. Any insight into my concerns listed above would be greatly appreciated.

    Thanks!

    #2
    I would say you are in a spot where you would be much better handled by an attorney. You seem to be the perfect example of someone who should be looking for chapter 7 as you probably already have a pretty low credit score and credit counseling oviously isn't working. But your current level of income does make it a bit more difficult to justify chapter 7. I would say you should go to a BK lawyer, and go quickly. Usually the initial consultation is free or a very low fee. The situation you are in should be looked into quickly as you are exactly the type of person that will be hurt by the new BK laws going into effect later this year. Right now you probably need a lawyer to play with some paperwork and give you the right tips to protect yourself, but by the end of this year it may be impossible to go chapter 7 as a single guy making $60G. I'd hate for your only choice to leave credit counseling to be chapter 13 which is in essence just more credit counseling. Speak to a pro. Good luck

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      #3
      Hi! My husband and I were in a similar situation with credit counseling before bankruptcy. Talk to a lawyer. We were in credit counseling for 3 years prior to filing Chap. 7 and it did not help our situation either. In fact we would have been better off if we had filed three years ago! My husband makes close to $50K, and with all our bills we were left with something like $200 a month after the CC payments for utilities and the like. Very hard to live that way, and very frustrating to know that you are trying to do the right thing, and pay down your debt, but not getting any closer to it being gone! When we started the BK process, our lawyer advised us to stop the CC program. We had extra money then, but we used it to catch up on bills, the lawyer said that would be ok to do. What we did not use, we pulled out of the bank or bought lots of groceries with! We also had two new cars when we filed, we kept both of them. Our BK was discharged last month and it is the best feeling to be able to buy what you need and not have to worry about what bill you are not going to be able to pay this month. Not any real answers, but I hope this makes you feel a little better. The sooner you can talk to someone, the better you will feel! Good Luck To You!!

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        #4
        We also did credit counseling for alittle over a year and it did not work for us either ! We should have filied Bk then. I would go see an attorney right away to help you work through all of this.. you will feel much better about everything. good luck

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          #5
          Regarding your Car

          Im thiniking you should "sell" your car to a close relative or someone you can trust, buy a $1000 car and file chap 7 soon. Once your discharged, and it sounds like it is likely, you can get your car back from your trusted one in due time.

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            #6

            CAUTION......
            Remember any transactions that take place 180 days before filing and 1 year after discharge the Trustee can UNDO......
            More than likely the car will have to go........it can only be of a certain value in some states. Then again yours might be one of those as long as you pay for it you can keep it. Your lawyer will tell ya.
            Yes, please, go see an attorney before the new law takes effect and your forced into a Chapter 13 payment plan. You won't have any money there either for 3-5 years.
            Also, do yourself a "favor" - LOOK AT YOUR OWN BUDGET - many of us live on less than $20,000 gross each year, yet we buy homes, cars, etc. and make it.
            Starting a new business can make you or break you - evidently yours really cost you...
            You said you make $60K and can't make it..... Your could be living awfully good...........and could live better if you get out from underneath all of this.
            See you lawyer...........
            Good luck
            Last edited by Minnymouth; 05-27-2005, 11:26 AM.
            Minny

            "It's amazing the paths that our feet sometimes follow in life".

            My suggestions are from "personal experience" and research only. Do not consider this as legal advice. Each bankruptcy case is different.

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