this is going to be another long thread isnt it. unless we find the 'correct' answer. i can feel it.
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Im not an attorney or a trustee. You cant trust me either though!
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I can see it now:
"Yes, Your Honor, the car's title was in my name"
"yes, Your Honor, the insurance for the car was in my name"
"yes, your Honor, the car was registered in my name"
"yes, your honor, I was the sole driver of the car"
"yes, your honor, the car was always parked at my residence."
"yes, your honor, I was the person who sold the vehicle"
"yes, your honor, I received the cash from the sale of the vehicle"
"yes, your honor, I am the person who drives the new vehicle that was purchased with the cash from the old vehicle"
"But, REALLY Your Honor, I had NO IDEA that the original car was MINE!!!!"Filed Ch. 7 Pro-Se: 10/12/06
341: 11/6/06 (went AMAZINGLY well!)
Discharge: 1/12/07
Closed:1/19/07

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you forgot the "yes, your honor - but i didnt think you would know that i knew it wasnt mine because i didnt know if you already knew it."Im not an attorney or a trustee. You cant trust me either though!
[x] - Done with 341? Join the 60 Day Club! ___________[x] - Im Discharged! Whoo Hooo!
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I'm not talking about lying-I'm talking about taking responsibility for our actions.Most of my information is from personal experience or HOURS and HOURS of online research. When you're searching online, keep in mind there is no guarantee that the info is completely up to date, and your situation is unique from anyone else's. Do your homework, and consult with an attorney so you can make an informed decision.
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lol bk. I love you too
in a non-homosexual way.
You are right about the whole yes your honor thing. But what if sinkingfast or lets just say my parents decided hey that's my car because I paid for it with my money. I'm not the one filing bankruptcy he is. You think it's fair for the court to take their money? That's all im getting at really.
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why would you want to bring something serious like that up for? did you have a 'respinsability' talk with you children today and its carrying over into here? heheOriginally posted by StaciMMI'm not talking about lying-I'm talking about taking responsibility for our actions.
Im not an attorney or a trustee. You cant trust me either though!
[x] - Done with 341? Join the 60 Day Club! ___________[x] - Im Discharged! Whoo Hooo!
[x] - Poll: Should I File Pro-Se ____________________[x] - New BK Law: Median Income, Means Testing and Presumptive Abuse
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It isn't their money any longer. If they bought the car and gave it to you, it is your car. When you give someone something, you cease to have control/say over it. If they loaned you a car-while retaining ownership-different story.Most of my information is from personal experience or HOURS and HOURS of online research. When you're searching online, keep in mind there is no guarantee that the info is completely up to date, and your situation is unique from anyone else's. Do your homework, and consult with an attorney so you can make an informed decision.
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but what is love i ask. i ask is love bound by such enormous walls that we can not overcome greatness. is love not therefore within our own minds. what is love i ask.Originally posted by Graphiclol bk. I love you too
no really, i im asking.
i am in the right thread for this right?
Im not an attorney or a trustee. You cant trust me either though!
[x] - Done with 341? Join the 60 Day Club! ___________[x] - Im Discharged! Whoo Hooo!
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That's where the lien come in. Who's to say that a lien can't hold up in court just because it is their mother/father? Is it illegal for ones parents to make their own lien on the car? I don't see why it would be in my own eyes.
Just like in sinkingfasts situation. Had they written up a contract saying hey you owe me htis much by this amount of time then whos to say there is equity on the vehicle just because it isn't on a 'corporate' loan? What if I hadn't paid any of it yet. So the c ar is paid for technically by my parents.. but not by me.Last edited by Graphic; 02-03-2006, 10:52 AM.
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but what is a lien i ask. i ask is a lien bound by such enormous walls that we can not overcome greatness. is a lien not therefore within our own minds. what is a lien i ask.
no really, i im asking.
i am in the right thread for this right?
Im not an attorney or a trustee. You cant trust me either though!
[x] - Done with 341? Join the 60 Day Club! ___________[x] - Im Discharged! Whoo Hooo!
[x] - Poll: Should I File Pro-Se ____________________[x] - New BK Law: Median Income, Means Testing and Presumptive Abuse
[x] - Zombie Debt Collectors Dig Up Your Old Mistakes _-[x] - Bankruptcy Law Resource
[x] - Need A Fast Answer? Available 24/7!--__________[x] - Dont Be A Hero On Your Budget - You Wont Get An Award!
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In the end, when everyone is groaning about me getting off topic ONCE AGAIN, just remember its your fault.
In the past few days:
1. My 5 year old was run over on a bicycle by a 7 year old who should have had parental supervision. I had to be the mature parent, bringing it to their attention, but I couldn't say what I really wanted to. KEEP AN EYE ON YOUR CHILD and TEACH THEM TO NOT BE A HOODLUM. (Same kid has been known to steal things from other people's yards and then paint them to disguise them.)
2. My 4 year old has reverted and decided she doesn't want to be potty trained. This is the same child that gave herself the haircut a couple of weeks ago and here lately, each morning when its time for me to go to work tries to think of a new way to keep from leaving.
3. My 7 year old thinks he is one of the parents and decided that his 5 year old sister didn't need an afternoon snack, so she went in the freezer and ate frozen chicken nuggets. This same child often gets caught hiding food in her room, in her pockets, in HER BROTHER'S SOCK. We DO feed her-I promise. She seems to think she is a squirrel though.
Ok everyone-stop laughing at my life & get up off the floor, we can go back to discussing BK now.
Originally posted by bkfilerwhy would you want to bring something serious like that up for? did you have a 'respinsability' talk with you children today and its carrying over into here? hehe
Most of my information is from personal experience or HOURS and HOURS of online research. When you're searching online, keep in mind there is no guarantee that the info is completely up to date, and your situation is unique from anyone else's. Do your homework, and consult with an attorney so you can make an informed decision.
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what the heck does that have to do with a silly thread like this? why are you ruining our joke thread with that stuff?
bad. bad girl. bad.Im not an attorney or a trustee. You cant trust me either though!
[x] - Done with 341? Join the 60 Day Club! ___________[x] - Im Discharged! Whoo Hooo!
[x] - Poll: Should I File Pro-Se ____________________[x] - New BK Law: Median Income, Means Testing and Presumptive Abuse
[x] - Zombie Debt Collectors Dig Up Your Old Mistakes _-[x] - Bankruptcy Law Resource
[x] - Need A Fast Answer? Available 24/7!--__________[x] - Dont Be A Hero On Your Budget - You Wont Get An Award!
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Graphic-the lien would have been valid regardless of the relationship. It would be questioned, though, if the lien was entered at a different time than the agreement. (You can put any date on the agreement, to show that it happened a while ago, but the lien would show when it was actually entered.) And, if the lien was added recently-since it is a family matter-it would be questioned as it would be a transfer of property to an insider.Most of my information is from personal experience or HOURS and HOURS of online research. When you're searching online, keep in mind there is no guarantee that the info is completely up to date, and your situation is unique from anyone else's. Do your homework, and consult with an attorney so you can make an informed decision.
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You brought up my kids...
Originally posted by bkfilerwhat the heck does that have to do with a silly thread like this? why are you ruining our joke thread with that stuff?
bad. bad girl. bad.Most of my information is from personal experience or HOURS and HOURS of online research. When you're searching online, keep in mind there is no guarantee that the info is completely up to date, and your situation is unique from anyone else's. Do your homework, and consult with an attorney so you can make an informed decision.
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Originally posted by StaciMMIn the end, when everyone is groaning about me getting off topic ONCE AGAIN, just remember its your fault.
In the past few days:
1. My 5 year old was run over on a bicycle by a 7 year old who should have had parental supervision. I had to be the mature parent, bringing it to their attention, but I couldn't say what I really wanted to. KEEP AN EYE ON YOUR CHILD and TEACH THEM TO NOT BE A HOODLUM. (Same kid has been known to steal things from other people's yards and then paint them to disguise them.)
2. My 4 year old has reverted and decided she doesn't want to be potty trained. This is the same child that gave herself the haircut a couple of weeks ago and here lately, each morning when its time for me to go to work tries to think of a new way to keep from leaving.
3. My 7 year old thinks he is one of the parents and decided that his 5 year old sister didn't need an afternoon snack, so she went in the freezer and ate frozen chicken nuggets. This same child often gets caught hiding food in her room, in her pockets, in HER BROTHER'S SOCK. We DO feed her-I promise. She seems to think she is a squirrel though.
Ok everyone-stop laughing at my life & get up off the floor, we can go back to discussing BK now.
ok each one of those cases show a serious problem with your children.
- first one - needs to look both ways before walking blindly around like she is a happy child. punish her until she is sad. then maybe she will be more fearful of things and look around and behind here back more too.
- second one - my pumpkin is pooing her diapers now? oh my. thats ok. she is my precious. ill get her a litter box. problem solved. actually, you are not spending enough time with her. she is having issues due to that.
- third one - he is taking charge. just doesnt know what he is suposed to do with the authority though. have him watch south park more to get guidance.
- as for the hiding of food. that is actually indicative of a serious problem ahead i believe. i saw it on ophra maybe. search the internet and get the answer. or just put a fridge in her room.
Im not an attorney or a trustee. You cant trust me either though!
[x] - Done with 341? Join the 60 Day Club! ___________[x] - Im Discharged! Whoo Hooo!
[x] - Poll: Should I File Pro-Se ____________________[x] - New BK Law: Median Income, Means Testing and Presumptive Abuse
[x] - Zombie Debt Collectors Dig Up Your Old Mistakes _-[x] - Bankruptcy Law Resource
[x] - Need A Fast Answer? Available 24/7!--__________[x] - Dont Be A Hero On Your Budget - You Wont Get An Award!
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