Spitzer

[Bandit]

NEW YORK - It's the simplest question in the world, but it was the one repeated over and over Monday after the staggering news broke about Gov. Eliot Spitzer: What in heaven's name was the man thinking?

Yet if the New York governor is proved to have been involved in a prostitution ring, it would hardly be the first time a powerful, brilliant person in public life has done something dizzyingly self-destructive.

Why do otherwise smart, successful people do such risky things? For psychologists and political analysts who found themselves dissecting the Spitzer story, it was a question of the chicken or the egg: In such situations, does the risky behavior precede the powerful job? Or does something about being in power cause the behavior?

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23566308/

[epiphany]

NEW YORK - It's the simplest question in the world, but it was the one repeated over and over Monday after the staggering news broke about Gov. Eliot Spitzer: What in heaven's name was the man thinking?

Yet if the New York governor is proved to have been involved in a prostitution ring, it would hardly be the first time a powerful, brilliant person in public life has done something dizzyingly self-destructive.

Why do otherwise smart, successful people do such risky things? For psychologists and political analysts who found themselves dissecting the Spitzer story, it was a question of the chicken or the egg: In such situations, does the risky behavior precede the powerful job? Or does something about being in power cause the behavior?

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23566308/

Absolute power corrupts absolutely. Try following California politics. It's things like this make me glad that bankruptcy is the worst of my problems.

ep

[Bandit]

How is it that people in power think they can do the very things they preach against? They punish people for doing something then all along are involved & doing the same exact thing?

I mean, surely we are all human and make mistakes but when you send people to jail for doing the same thing that you do, & judge people to hell for the same thing you do- you really need your head examined...& that goes for the preachers & religiouso leaders, not just the politicians.

I suppose it is not as bad as selling children for slavery & prostitution if that is all I can say good about it.

WHOOPS!...

[Bandit]

Absolute power corrupts absolutely. Try following California politics. It's things like this make me glad that bankruptcy is the worst of my problems.

ep

same page. I said the same exact thing to myself after watching the news tonight.

[AMISLANDER]

I think what he did is obviously a moral injustice....but he's not the first & certainly won't be the last man with money to be boffing a hooker....Clinton did it and remained president so obviously when he was asked to step down it is not consistent, in my opinion.

[chpxiii]

Amislander, Clinton was officially impeached. Over what? Sex? Atleast he didn't go to war and didn't leave us with a deficit.

Good lord, look at the moron we have in office now and is STILL not impeached. And he has *murdered* people. Well, by his call to send them out to war, that's how he has their blood on his hands. He's spent this country INTO THE GROUND and he still has the balls to not admit that we're in a recession.

IMO, Bush's "morals" are far far far worse than Clinton's.

BTW, I have found that those who push morals and ethics so hard and try to get others to do as they say (but not as they do!) are the ones who are more likely to be gay, visit prostitutes, swindle, steal, etc. Essentially, hypocrites trying to divert attention from their own immoral and unethical actions.

BTW, me, personally... sex doesn't bother me. Spending America's money down to a deficit, sending people off to their deaths, denying that we're in a recession, and putting band aid on wounds so deep that essentially the limb is cut off, is far worse morally and ethically. Bush's actions have affected *the whole country.* Clinton getting a blow job? Meh. Atleast he was probably relaxed for his afternoon meetings.

I really wish Americans would get off of their pseudo-moral high horse and get over their hangs up over sex. Seriously. If we're so self righteous about it, why are there so many pregnant teens? Oh yeah.. the "abstinence only" programs. Which, of course, is yet another program our loser president pushed.

[sharksfan]

Oh yeah.. the "abstinence only" programs. Which, of course, is yet another program our loser president pushed.

Doing something you aren't supposed to do makes it that much bettter Highschool wouldn't have been the same otherwise

[Bandit]

IMO, Bush's "morals" are far far far worse than Clinton's.

BTW, I have found that those who push morals and ethics so hard and try to get others to do as they say (but not as they do!) are the ones who are more likely to be gay, visit prostitutes, swindle, steal, etc. Essentially, hypocrites trying to divert attention from their own immoral and unethical actions.

BTW, me, personally... sex doesn't bother me. Spending America's money down to a deficit, sending people off to their deaths, denying that we're in a recession, and putting band aid on wounds so deep that essentially the limb is cut off, is far worse morally and ethically. Bush's actions have affected *the whole country.* Clinton getting a blow job? Meh. Atleast he was probably relaxed for his afternoon meetings.

But Clinton wasn't doing a prostitution gig, was he? That was just a short affair with some secretary. Yes? Big difference in my opinion.

Some people are just that way...preaching hell & damnation while doing the same thing they preach against.

We are on the same page though about the difference between two adults in mutual consent verses what Boosh has done as that has affected the entire globe & the USA people in all negative manners, where the two in bed with each other only effected themselves.

But this particular case appears to be very different as there were several women & he was buying them in a ring while punishing others for doing the same thing he was doing. Spitz is not the brightest bulb on the tree and has already plead guilty by dropping his job- for that I do respect him for not trying to lie, like some of the preachers do.

I am just a bit confused lately how there can be so many crooked leaders & like we are supposed to 'believe in them' as they set these examples.

[Bandit]

Doing something you aren't supposed to do makes it that much bettter Highschool wouldn't have been the same otherwise

He can do it if he wants to do it & his wife says ok. But when he tells everyone else they can't do it while he is doing it...that is a big problem when you are a leader.

But I know what you are saying about trying to get away with something when younger, as I am no perfect angel to set the example for.

[AMISLANDER]

He can do it if he wants to do it & his wife says ok. But when he tells everyone else they can't do it while he is doing it...that is a big problem when you are a leader.

But I know what you are saying about trying to get away with something when younger, as I am no perfect angel to set the example for.

Right on! And now the hooker is not only getting her 15 minutes of Andy Warhol fame, but will become rich if she takes the right deal...go figure; only in America?

[rilbrianne]

These big shots must have no sympathy for their wives and children.... That's got to be one of the most humiliating things you could do to your own family. Why even bother getting married if you are going to hurt them like this? I hate it. I also highly doubt that a wife would say "sure go ahead and hire some prostitutes to do what I could do, go ahead and bring home some God awful disease and share it with me." Sick.

That preacher that was crying on TV, "I've sinned against you Lord!" Please, you only ask for forgiveness when you are caught. Shame on these leaders of ours, I wonder when money will stop being the focus of elections and real decent people will be able to run our country. That's my opinion on the whole matter.

[chpxiii]

But this particular case appears to be very different as there were several women & he was buying them in a ring while punishing others for doing the same thing he was doing.

Correct. And I don't disagree with that. Which is why I was saying that those who push morals and ethics on others are simply hypocrites trying to divert attention away from their own actions.

I am just a bit confused lately how there can be so many crooked leaders & like we are supposed to 'believe in them' as they set these examples.

Because most people are hypocrites.

And besides, politicians know how to play the politics game and get votes. IMO, so many voters don't even know how or what they are voting on - so many just vote on slogans.

[Bandit]

Right on! And now the hooker is not only getting her 15 minutes of Andy Warhol fame, but will become rich if she takes the right deal...go figure; only in America?

I saw three of them come forward that makes four getting their fame. He was supposedly with more than one & doing this for a long time because there are records of how much money he spent. It wont last very long & most of it will get swept under the carpet, unless he has to do jail time & that serves him right for doing that to others.

She might make a little money but it wont last for long...15 minutes is about right ROFL

[Bandit]

These big shots must have no sympathy for their wives and children.... That's got to be one of the most humiliating things you could do to your own family. Why even bother getting married if you are going to hurt them like this? I hate it. I also highly doubt that a wife would say "sure go ahead and hire some prostitutes to do what I could do, go ahead and bring home some God awful disease and share it with me." Sick.

That preacher that was crying on TV, "I've sinned against you Lord!" Please, you only ask for forgiveness when you are caught. Shame on these leaders of ours, I wonder when money will stop being the focus of elections and real decent people will be able to run our country. That's my opinion on the whole matter.

I remember that one preacher hiring that male prostitute then tries to say the devil made him do it. He was seeing that gay man all the time while married & then preaching gay people to hell & damnation at the same time...goofy... One of the right wing religious coalations that gets people to vote for who they want in office...he resigned. (I forget his name)

But you are right they do it until they are caught & all is ok for them to do it until busted.

I have also noticed a lot of these big wigs & head honchos are being set up through their affairs & then just before elections, they are exposed. That is really weird how people think today.

When you get married & you live a lie against your spouse, that harms more than the two people cheating & the innocent spouse has to suffer- that is where I draw the line.

[$$only4ever]

Everyone made such a big deal about this and frankly I did not think that it was as important as some other news items.

My question is: Why is the news media making "Kristen" the new star? What a waste of time and energy. Just my thoughts.