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    Russian analyst predicts decline and breakup of U.S.

    A leading Russian political analyst has said the economic turmoil in the United States has confirmed his long-held view that the country is heading for collapse, and will divide into separate parts.

    Professor Igor Panarin said in an interview with the respected daily Izvestia published on Monday: "The dollar is not secured by anything. The country's foreign debt has grown like an avalanche, even though in the early 1980s there was no debt. By 1998, when I first made my prediction, it had exceeded $2 trillion. Now it is more than 11 trillion. This is a pyramid that can only collapse."

    The paper said Panarin's dire predictions for the U.S. economy, initially made at an international conference in Australia 10 years ago at a time when the economy appeared strong, have been given more credence by this year's events.

    When asked when the U.S. economy would collapse, Panarin said: "It is already collapsing. Due to the financial crisis, three of the largest and oldest five banks on Wall Street have already ceased to exist, and two are barely surviving. Their losses are the biggest in history. Now what we will see is a change in the regulatory system on a global financial scale: America will no longer be the world's financial regulator."

    When asked who would replace the U.S. in regulating world markets, he said: "Two countries could assume this role: China, with its vast reserves, and Russia, which could play the role of a regulator in Eurasia."

    Asked why he expected the U.S. to break up into separate parts, he said: "A whole range of reasons. Firstly, the financial problems in the U.S. will get worse. Millions of citizens there have lost their savings. Prices and unemployment are on the rise. General Motors and Ford are on the verge of collapse, and this means that whole cities will be left without work. Governors are already insistently demanding money from the federal center. Dissatisfaction is growing, and at the moment it is only being held back by the elections and the hope that Obama can work miracles. But by spring, it will be clear that there are no miracles."

    He also cited the "vulnerable political setup", "lack of unified national laws", and "divisions among the elite, which have become clear in these crisis conditions."

    He predicted that the U.S. will break up into six parts - the Pacific coast, with its growing Chinese population; the South, with its Hispanics; Texas, where independence movements are on the rise; the Atlantic coast, with its distinct and separate mentality; five of the poorer central states with their large Native American populations; and the northern states, where the influence from Canada is strong.

    He even suggested that "we could claim Alaska - it was only granted on lease, after all."

    On the fate of the U.S. dollar, he said: "In 2006 a secret agreement was reached between Canada, Mexico and the U.S. on a common Amero currency as a new monetary unit. This could signal preparations to replace the dollar. The one-hundred dollar bills that have flooded the world could be simply frozen. Under the pretext, let's say, that terrorists are forging them and they need to be checked."

    When asked how Russia should react to his vision of the future, Panarin said: "Develop the ruble as a regional currency. Create a fully functioning oil exchange, trading in rubles... We must break the strings tying us to the financial Titanic, which in my view will soon sink."

    Panarin, 60, is a professor at the Diplomatic Academy of the Russian Ministry of Foreign Affairs, and has authored several books on information warfare.

    A leading Russian political analyst has said the economic turmoil in the United States has confirmed his long-held view that the country is heading for collapse, and will divide into separate parts.

    #2
    Who knows maybe this all will come true, but I hear overtones of the past; Mother Russia ruling the World.....heard it all before
    "I'm old enough to know better, but too young to care"
    Filed Chapter 7 January 25th 2010
    341 Hearing March 4th 2010
    Discharged May 10th 2010

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      #3
      I've long believed that the US is headed towards the way of the Roman Empire and will soon collapse.. Right now we're seeing records levels of govt debt and future debt obligations for Social Security and Medicare (54 trillion dollars) that we will not be able to meet. Neither political party has the balls to tackle this issue and I don't think the messiah (Obama) can tackle this problem- No we can't..

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        #4
        The Russian does not get it. China, Russia, (and India,) can prospser economically as long as they have goods to offer to the world. I don't think that any of these countries have the internal economic demand/buying power to "grow their own economy." You can talk about foreign bond indebtedness, foreign ownership, etc, but it will all come down to the consumer's willingness to spend, borrow, or lend. And a failure of the US economy won't lead to any rise in China, Russia, or India's economic power. In my opinion, they may have had a chance (internally) if they had remained true communist states (not considering India,) but they are as involved in the free market as any other country. Nearly all countries will suffer under the current global economic crisis, and it will probably be proportional to their current stand in the global economy. Capitalism requires demand and consumers create the demand, but the economy also has to be "well" enough to provide supply. I would guess that much of the supply has been created by the ability to borrow money (private or government) in an attempt to meet demand; demand that appears to be drying up. In fact, we can all see how the lending side is weighing in on this issue. You can make all the capital you want available, but if there are no buyers or borrowers or lenders how does one offset their loan or production costs?

        I'm willing to see what the result are 10 years from now, but in my opinion, "as the US economy goes, so goes the global economy."

        Just my two cents!

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          #5
          The Russians are the experts on the subject of failure.

          That's what happens when we do things the way they did and still do.

          We are becoming socialists like they were/are,

          We are polictically correct where we cannot speak our minds without offending anyone,

          The list goes on but you get the point.
          The essence of freedom is the proper limitation of Government

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            #6
            Originally posted by banca rotta View Post
            The Russians are the experts on the subject of failure.

            That's what happens when we do things the way they did and still do.

            We are becoming socialists like they were/are,

            We are polictically correct where we cannot speak our minds without offending anyone,

            The list goes on but you get the point.
            If I knew it all, would I be here?? Hang in there = Retained attorney 8-06, Filed 12-28-07, Discharge 8-13-08, Finally CLOSED 11-3-09, 3-31-10 AP Dismissed, Informed by incompetent lawyer of CLOSED status, October 14, 2010.

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              #7
              Hub, that was tried and failed. After the revolution there were 13 states with no federal government. It lasted about six years and the current system was adopted.
              The essence of freedom is the proper limitation of Government

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                #8
                Okay, please gve a very specific example:

                "That's what happens when we do things the way they did and still do."

                The cool thing about a republican form of democracy is that if we as a republic of separate states decide that a little socialism is okay, then democracy has spoken. If we decide to elect leaders that want to encourage "global democracy" or chase down terrorists or isolate ouselves from other nations, then our form of democracy has spoken. The point is that we will decide not collectively as individuals but as regions. I continually applaud change, risk, and challenges. The US ablility to react to social changes and temporarily comform to socialism, capitalism, etc is our strength. Very few countries in the world can move toward a changing political environment as quickly as the US can. While some may not like the changes, others will embrace them. As a democratic republic represented by regions, we will survive. The result may not resemble what some expect or have come to "love," but we have always been a country that reacts and moves forward to change, not fears change. While we may not recognize this, take a good look at the history of our country and you will see that change is what has been "constant." Other more rigid forms of political governance around the world have not faired so well (including the Roman Empire.) We will survive this economic crisis and recover much sooner than other nations. Again, check back in 10 - 15 years.
                Last edited by treehugger1; 11-25-2008, 07:48 PM.

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                  #9
                  I just bought a three pack of aluminum foil from Sam's Club, who wants to join me in making some hats and camping out in my bunker until this all blows over.

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                    #10
                    Hub, Rome did go down because of greed....I have had this quote in my computer for awhile...........



                    "The budget should be balanced, the Treasury should be refilled, public debt should be reduced, the arrogance of officialdom should be tempered and controlled, and the assistance to foreign lands should be curtailed lest Rome become bankrupt. People must again learn to work, instead of living on public assistance. "



                    Cicero - 55 BC
                    "I'm old enough to know better, but too young to care"
                    Filed Chapter 7 January 25th 2010
                    341 Hearing March 4th 2010
                    Discharged May 10th 2010

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                      #11
                      Allavdj, yes please make mine a Large.. Thanks
                      "I'm old enough to know better, but too young to care"
                      Filed Chapter 7 January 25th 2010
                      341 Hearing March 4th 2010
                      Discharged May 10th 2010

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                        #12
                        Thats the one thing about History is we usually relive it at some point.
                        "I'm old enough to know better, but too young to care"
                        Filed Chapter 7 January 25th 2010
                        341 Hearing March 4th 2010
                        Discharged May 10th 2010

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                          #13
                          I don't know about "re-living" history (seems like an oxymoron.) But history is about change. It is probably change that we fear most.

                          On another note...Why not buy 2 -3 three packs. One can never be too prepared.

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                            #14
                            Originally posted by Overmylimit View Post
                            Hub, Rome did go down because of greed....I have had this quote in my computer for awhile...........



                            "The budget should be balanced, the Treasury should be refilled, public debt should be reduced, the arrogance of officialdom should be tempered and controlled, and the assistance to foreign lands should be curtailed lest Rome become bankrupt. People must again learn to work, instead of living on public assistance. "



                            Cicero - 55 BC
                            I agree, ergo, we have met the enemy and they are we. 'Hub
                            If I knew it all, would I be here?? Hang in there = Retained attorney 8-06, Filed 12-28-07, Discharge 8-13-08, Finally CLOSED 11-3-09, 3-31-10 AP Dismissed, Informed by incompetent lawyer of CLOSED status, October 14, 2010.

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                              #15
                              Well as a Professor from the former Soviet Union, he knows all about states breaking away and forming independent countries.

                              I'm happy to live in the new Pacific Coast country - with our strong ties to China and "chinese population", we should all do well here... But where do we send all our Hispanics? To the South - Georgia?

                              “When fascism comes to America, it’ll be wrapped in a flag and carrying a cross” — Sinclair Lewis

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