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    Trustee Pressuring me to Convert back to Chap7

    Here'e the deal. I originally filed a Chap7 and converted it to a 13 a few months ago. Today, I went to my Chap13 confirmation hearing today. I had a small 1 month mortgage arrears which I cured by rolling it back into my Chapter 13 payment plan, no big deal, $45/mo for 60 mos as a priority claim. That was the only objection to confirmation that I had. I thought I was going to get my plan confirmed. My plan met all the bankrupcy code guidelines (paying 8% of unsecured debt and all of priority claims, taxes, arrears, wage deduction order, etc.) Monthly payment worked out to $335x60...

    But here's the kicker, in the courtroom, at the last minute the trustee objected to the judge about my confirmation because she felt the equity in the house was greater than the total amount being paid into the plan. I had a formal realtor marketing analysis done and had it appraised at around $300-$320K. It's a 100 year old victorian money pit that needs about $50K in repairs. The trustee (get this) did a appraisal on her own (I had no idea she did this as no one contacted me or was let into the house...probably just a drive by appraisal) and she claims it's worth $450K! There is no way it is worth that, as the property tax value is $350K and when I refinanced it a year ago it was appraised at $360k. I've claimed the property value as being around $300-$320K in my Chap13, because it now needs a new roof ($20K), a new porch (huge wrap around $20K), and a bunch of other repair stuff. So now the trustee wants to kick me back to Chapter 7 which means they want to eventually seize the house and sell it....The trustee even has a sentence penciled into her notes (I peeked) where the former Chapter 7 trustee had written: "kick this case back to me..." Is this unethical, them pressuring me back to a Chap7 at the last minute with a 'phony' real estate appraisal?...

    #2
    Sounds like something worth arguing over.

    I'd imagine it might be hard to get market comparisons. If there are any similar though, it would be good to research what they've sold for lately. Domania.com is good for that.

    Also-research appreciation for the area. I have a subscription at bankofamericaprivacysource.com (actually I cancelled it, but can still login) and they have a 'neighborhood check' feature. If you want to pm me your zip code, I'll put it in and it will tell some stats, included average appreciation rate.

    On the bright side, chances are your appraisal is more realistic than theirs, based on what you've said regarding repairs needed, etc. What I'm getting at is they can claim its worth $450,000, but if your approximation is right, they are not going to be able to sell it for that! Something to find out is what happens if they seize it-but don't get any offers that cover your mortgage, selling costs, and your exemption. Theory: they might be trying to snowball you into upping your payment amount in order to pay more to unsecured creditors.

    By the way-what is the exemption amount in your state & how much do you owe?
    Most of my information is from personal experience or HOURS and HOURS of online research. When you're searching online, keep in mind there is no guarantee that the info is completely up to date, and your situation is unique from anyone else's. Do your homework, and consult with an attorney so you can make an informed decision.

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      #3
      Owe 300K and the exemtpion in Virginia is a

      pitiful $5K.

      This all started when I failed to file a Homestead Deed when I filed my Chapter 7. Biggest mistake of my life.

      Bottom Line: The trustee's Office is trying to take advantage of me because I am pro se. I am tempted to file an affidavit stating what I saw. I'd use this affidavit in support of a motion to disqualify BOTH of the trustees (the former Chap7 and the current Chap13) from having any further particupation in my case on the basis of their being in collusion and artificially inflating the value of my house. I might want to file a motion to value the property concurrently. If these people are going to play these games, I'd let them do it for all to see. If they are going to lie, I will force them to do so. I would send a copy of the motion to the United States Trustee in my district and c.c. the trustee's office in the AG's office in Washington, DC.

      Just a thought right now...

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        #4
        Yikes...

        I do think its more likely that they're trying to go for more $$$ in the plan. Unless they believe their appraisal.

        I'd certainly try to find out what happens if they don't get a high enough offer on it-just in case.
        Most of my information is from personal experience or HOURS and HOURS of online research. When you're searching online, keep in mind there is no guarantee that the info is completely up to date, and your situation is unique from anyone else's. Do your homework, and consult with an attorney so you can make an informed decision.

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          #5
          Yeah,
          Trustee and Mortgage Company thought they would get more out of my home by seizing it and selling it at auction instead of me buying it back......
          After I told all bidders the "damages to the property", someone had died in the home, and it had a bad title----- DUH - the Trustee and Mortgage took a $15,000 loss in their sale at auction....... (now did I really do something like that - yeah I did)......

          Believe me THEY WERE NOT HAPPY......(especially with me).... sorry about their luck huh....

          Teach them to seize my home to line their own pockets..... not a nice thing to do.........

          Old saying at my house - "I don't get mad - I get even"...

          Don't let the Trustee take advantage of you - let him know you know what he's doing, yes they are trying to line their own pockets.

          Mine is fixing to have a LOT OF EXPLAININ' TO DO - to the Attorney General in DC also....

          Trustee's are only human - and the money they CAN MAKE is very inviting to them..... AND YES THEY DO STEP OVER THE LINE to their own benefit...

          Just keep a close eye on him. I've been there and done that already...


          Minny
          Minny

          "It's amazing the paths that our feet sometimes follow in life".

          My suggestions are from "personal experience" and research only. Do not consider this as legal advice. Each bankruptcy case is different.

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            #6
            Fiats3, if you don't mind me asking, what district are you in in Virginia? I am currently trying to decide whether to convert my case or not, and depending, your answer would be HUGELY relevant in my decision...

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