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    Any wonder why I won't give sometimes?

    50 charged over Red Cross scam
    Date: December 28 2005


    By Washington

    NEARLY 50 people have been indicted over a scheme that bilked hundreds of thousands of Red Cross dollars intended for hurricane Katrina victims.

    According to federal authorities, 17 of the accused worked at the Red Cross claim centre in Bakersfield, California, which handled calls from storm victims across the country, and authorised cash payments to them.

    The others charged were the workers' relatives and friends.

    The scam came to light when Red Cross officials noticed a suspiciously high number of people picking up Red Cross money at Western Union agencies near the Bakersfield centre, even though few evacuees were in the area.

    Forty-nine people in the area have been indicted in the past three months for filing false claims. More indictments were expected soon, said Stanley Boone, an assistant US attorney.

    The incident reveals a sometimes chaotic system that the Red Cross cobbled together after the disaster. Many had fled their homes with only the clothing they wore and what they could carry. Before winding up the program two weeks ago, the Red Cross gave out $US1.3 billion ($A1.8 billion) to evacuees in more than 1.4 million households.

    It was the charity's largest cash program yet — double the amount distributed after the September 11 terrorist attacks.

    "We went in knowing that we had a great need, almost an incomprehensible need," Michael Brackney, manager of the Red Cross' client services program, said.

    But charity experts said that in this era, when a highly visible disaster could attract hundreds of millions of dollars, relief groups were under enormous pressure to give the money away as quickly as possible or risk the ire of donors.

    After the September 11 attacks, when the Red Cross was criticised for trying to use some of the money to prepare for future disasters, donors are not keen to divert funds to other causes, say those who assess charitable giving. But that presents challenges to charities that usually are careful to parcel out aid based on need.

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    #2
    As with anything, you have the givers, the receivers, and the CROOKS.......
    It's a shame when a fellow man is trying to help another fellow man that CROOKS mess up the whole system......
    Personally I feel they need to be locked up and throw away the keys....... the greedy bunch....
    Society should punish them extensively, and not just slap their hands for bad behavior.....
    Many, many more people would donate time and money to those in need if they knew the "greedy" weren't in there with their hands stuck out for a "freebie"......

    It's not only the charitable organizations - the government agencies are just as bad. By the time each "part of the system" takes out "their expenses" - actual funds that go to the needy are small......

    It's a proven fact that our Nation is not ready for emergencies of any kind...... 9-11's, hurricanes, floods, etc.... The needy wait "much too long" for HELP..... when all they really need is food and water....... What a shame that people would die of thirst in our Nation..... because of an agency dragging their feet......

    We need to take a "new look" at our Society, our organizations, and our Responses to Emergencies.....

    My thoughts,
    Minny

    "It's amazing the paths that our feet sometimes follow in life".

    My suggestions are from "personal experience" and research only. Do not consider this as legal advice. Each bankruptcy case is different.

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      #3
      Unfortunately, there are going to be bad apples everywhere.

      Personally, I prefer to contribute on MY TERMS and I believe that its best to contribute items rather than cash.
      Most of my information is from personal experience or HOURS and HOURS of online research. When you're searching online, keep in mind there is no guarantee that the info is completely up to date, and your situation is unique from anyone else's. Do your homework, and consult with an attorney so you can make an informed decision.

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        #4
        The only thing I give to the Red Cross is blood. They have high "administrative fees".
        I don't have the answer to the problem but it seems like there is either too much red tape or not enough.
        Those convicted should have to do bucket loads of community service in area homeless and women's shelters.
        I'll be watching, you may never know when or how, but I'll be there. I am there now....

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          #5
          YES, to only blood for Red Cross........

          In 1974 when the biggest tornado in history hit Xenia, Ohio and flattened the whole town and subdivisions, the Red Cross was there - SELLING SANDWICHES AND WATER - to the people trying to find survivors in the rubbish...

          My brothers, among many searching for survivors, were SO MAD about them selling bologna sandwiches for $4.00 a peice and $2.00 for a glass of water.

          Search crews were looking for a week for trapped victims.... ambulances ran continously....... hospitals were overflowing with injured.....

          And the RED CROSS instead of HELPING was trying to raise money..................... for their programs....

          No one SAW them helping in any way.... no help for the survivors, no food, no clothing, no moral support..... NOTHING -

          So people in Ohio around the Dayton/Xenia area - do not think good thoughts about the RED CROSS.....

          Instead of helping people in distress that week, they were taking the money right out of their pockets for a bologna sandwich.............



          And yes, I have heard much of their funding goes to administrative cost.....

          My thoughts about RED CROSS.......
          Minny

          "It's amazing the paths that our feet sometimes follow in life".

          My suggestions are from "personal experience" and research only. Do not consider this as legal advice. Each bankruptcy case is different.

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            #6
            Originally posted by Minnymouth
            YES, to only blood for Red Cross........

            In 1974 when the biggest tornado in history hit Xenia, Ohio and flattened the whole town and subdivisions, the Red Cross was there - SELLING SANDWICHES AND WATER - to the people trying to find survivors in the rubbish...

            My brothers, among many searching for survivors, were SO MAD about them selling bologna sandwiches for $4.00 a peice and $2.00 for a glass of water.

            Search crews were looking for a week for trapped victims.... ambulances ran continously....... hospitals were overflowing with injured.....

            And the RED CROSS instead of HELPING was trying to raise money..................... for their programs....

            No one SAW them helping in any way.... no help for the survivors, no food, no clothing, no moral support..... NOTHING -

            So people in Ohio around the Dayton/Xenia area - do not think good thoughts about the RED CROSS.....

            Instead of helping people in distress that week, they were taking the money right out of their pockets for a bologna sandwich.............



            And yes, I have heard much of their funding goes to administrative cost.....

            My thoughts about RED CROSS.......
            Minney, i have to agree. I live in Ohio currently and have watched may situations occur that the red cross has dropped the ball on. several floods/fires that people were just given 100.00 to get "food and clothing". well I don't know about you guys but even in Ohio we can't get much for 100.00. especially for larger family. I refuse to give to them. I have found other charities I donate to, both time and money.

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              #7
              Originally posted by brokemama
              Minney, i have to agree. I live in Ohio currently and have watched may situations occur that the red cross has dropped the ball on. several floods/fires that people were just given 100.00 to get "food and clothing". well I don't know about you guys but even in Ohio we can't get much for 100.00. especially for larger family. I refuse to give to them. I have found other charities I donate to, both time and money.

              Yes, I should have said "Blood Only" The fun thing regarding the RC, was when they moved, they called me (Not mentioning the new place) and I agreed to show, but got delayed...3 times (Family animal issues) and so, when I did make it, they weren't there..I called their local number and got Mr. "Duhhhhhhhhh" (I don't have to say more about his helpfulness)


              Well, I never showed and theynever called again...Cool!

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                #8
                Having worked for the "other" large disaster charity the best piece of advice I can give is this: If you feel you must donate to charity, be SURE to notate on your check what the donation is to be used for (ie Hurricane Katrina, Tsunami, etc). Those funds must be used for what you specify.

                If you leave it blank the money is fair game to be used as they see fit. Which usually ends up being spent on their religious retreats which seem to be every other week. They have lots of fun and give themselves donated brand new items as party favors, buy costumes, etc.

                Or then there's my personal favorite - over $100,000 spent on remodeling an employee's house that the organization provided them rent free to live in.
                They also pick thru the donations and take the best home for themselves.

                Working at that place sure left me with a bad taste in my mouth for any charity.

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                  #9
                  Gen, I have to say one thing for two organizations I love. Operation Blessing and Angel Tree. My kids go out for Angel Tree once a year to distribute items to families (kids). And Operation Blessing, I got help from them years ago. I've seen their trucks roll and eaten their food. I love the people who work with them, those organizations go where the rubber meets the road.
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