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    Googling the night away

    I found a few interesting things about BK. I found a few other forums similar to this one, although with a lot less activity. On two different forums I found people who were advised by their attorney to max out their credit cards and buy everything they want prior to filing. I find it very hard to believe that any attorney would advise someone to do this, but you know what, where there's smoke there's fire, maybe that really did happen.

    I also found the California Code of Civil Procedures and different cases where people have tried to claim exemptions that were challenged by the trustee. I saw where bank accounts were exempt up to certain values, by rule of somehting called "reasonably used to support the debtor". I also found a case where a six figure IRA was ruled not exempt because of some changover hoopla and this that and the other. It was over $300K and they lost it. However, after reading about California exemptions, I decided that I will not close out my brokerage account prior to my first consutation with an attorney. It is only worth a little over $1000 and I think it might get an exemption. If not, I will close it out on the attorney's advice.

    It's 1:25 AM and I've been slamming beers for the last couple of hours as I've been googling. It's just sinking in that this is really going to happen now. Right now all my bills are current, and I will beging saving for my attorney fees by not paying any unsecured creditors. I think I can have $1000 to $1500 saved in a month or so. My last weeks pay was a little under $400, I haven't had a week's pay that small in many years. It makes me wonder if anyone else where I work is hurting too, we are all having our hours cut back.

    I haven't talked to anyone about this, not even my closest friends. Over the last couple of days it's been all that's on my mind now that it's inevitable. I get heart palpitations just thinking about it.

    I found an attorney who specializes in bankruptcy here in San Diego, he's a member of that trade group or whatever it is. There's also a legal mill that runs commercials on late night TV, and there's also a firm with a very low price that I found in one of those free weekly papers you see in convenience stores. I'll go to the BK attorney for my first consultation, and frankly if his fees aren't more than about $1500 I won't even bother going to the other two.

    I haven't totaled up my debts for a while. I knew it was getting bad because of some legal problems I had recently, but I just didn't want to face up to how much more I was charging even though I knew I was in trouble. I honestly thought I could pay it off, but the hours at work dropped even more. I totaled it up tonight and I have $49586 total of which $24856 is unsecured. The rest is my car loan. Just seeing those numbers scares me.

    I can only find comfort here in front of my computer with my anonymous handle chatting away in cyberspace. That and my adorable little kitty laying on the floor beside me.
    Filed C7: 04/25/2007
    341: 05/21/2007
    Last Day for Objections: 07/20/2007
    Discharged: 07/23/07 Closed: 07/26/07

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    Well, at least you have an adorable cat! I didn't even have that much. Nice thread title by the way. And cheer up, you live in one of the best cities in the country.

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      Originally posted by manglicmot View Post
      I haven't totaled up my debts for a while. I knew it was getting bad because of some legal problems I had recently, but I just didn't want to face up to how much more I was charging even though I knew I was in trouble. I honestly thought I could pay it off, but the hours at work dropped even more. I totaled it up tonight and I have $49586 total of which $24856 is unsecured. The rest is my car loan. Just seeing those numbers scares me.
      We all have had that horrible moment when we had to total up everything we owed to everyone and face the awful truth head-on. But it's a necessary first step to making decisions to stop the downward spiral.

      My own devastating realization about how much debt we really had came as we sat in front of a CCCS counselor while my 'captain of our financial ship' husband talked about debt after debt after debt - some I didn't even know about - until he had listed over $80,000 in non-secured debt and over $230,000 in secured (including two mortgages on our house). That was by far the worst moment in our 27 year marriage.

      Eventually I realized that credit counseling wasn't doing a darned thing for us and I started investgating bankrutpcy. I spent many an hour googling (found this forum and three other bk forums that way too - by far, this forum has been the most helpful). We filed Ch 13 eight months ago.

      Hard? Yes, but filing was truly the only way out of our own financial hole. You will feel better after filing, and you will have a chance to start over. The key is learning how to handle money and make sound financial decisions looking at the long term effects so we don't end up here again. Hang in there, pet your sweet kitty, and keep posting here. We'll help you any way we can.
      Last edited by lrprn; 02-18-2007, 09:22 AM.
      I am not a lawyer and this is not legal advice nor a statement of the law - only a lawyer can provide those.

      06/01/06 - Filed Ch 13
      06/28/06 - 341 Meeting
      07/18/06 - Confirmation Hearing - not confirmed, 3 objections
      10/05/06 - Hearing to resolve 2 trustee objections
      01/24/07 - Judge dismisses mortgage company objection
      09/27/07 - Confirmed at last!
      06/10/11 - Trustee confirms all payments made
      08/10/11 - DISCHARGED !

      10/02/11 - CASE CLOSED
      Countdown: 60 months paid, 0 months to go

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