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    Fun with Bass & Associates

    Hello all! I am new here, but have already learned a great deal searching around these forums. It looks like this is a great support network for anyone going through BK.

    Anyhow, I filed Ch 7 back in May, and my case (no asset) was discharged and closed in mid August . Two days ago, I received the letter that many here are already familiar with from Bass and Associates. It says that they are aware that my case has been discharged, my account with Best Buy was secured by the consumer goods purchased, and that if I intend to voluntarily surrender the collateral to give them a name and contact number. I've already learned that they are a third rate CA trying to basically squeeze blood out of a turnip thanks to these forums, but I do have a couple of lingering questions.

    1) My balance on this account was mostly the accumulation of a number of smaller purchases over a multi year span, the largest by far being a $600 computer three and a half years ago. Is there a security interest on everything purchased on the account, no matter the retail cost?

    2) A large number of the items purchased on the account I no longer have - they were the first casualties of a couple moves I have made over the last couple of years. Should I decide to return the items on the account, what do I do about those that I no longer have?

    Thank you all very much for any help you can provide

    #2
    They are looking for bucks. You may want to ignore them, they were not listed as a "Creditor Holding a Secured Claim". I would personally ignore them.
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      #3
      If you don't have them, you don't have them-nothing they can do about.
      Don't talk with them on the phone. Ignore them and eventually, they'll go away.

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        #4
        Agree with the advice you've gotten already. There's no way B&A is going to court for Best Buy to get back a three-year-old computer.

        If for some insane reason they try to strong arm you by actually filing something in court (less than a 0.01% chance of that happening!), then tell just B&A and BestBuy that sure they are most welcome to pick up the pieces of the computer in the garage in a box since you took it apart for parts some time ago and that the rest of the items were sold in a garage sale long before you filed!
        Last edited by lrprn; 09-30-2007, 05:55 PM.
        I am not a lawyer and this is not legal advice nor a statement of the law - only a lawyer can provide those.

        06/01/06 - Filed Ch 13
        06/28/06 - 341 Meeting
        07/18/06 - Confirmation Hearing - not confirmed, 3 objections
        10/05/06 - Hearing to resolve 2 trustee objections
        01/24/07 - Judge dismisses mortgage company objection
        09/27/07 - Confirmed at last!
        06/10/11 - Trustee confirms all payments made
        08/10/11 - DISCHARGED !

        10/02/11 - CASE CLOSED
        Countdown: 60 months paid, 0 months to go

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          #5
          Thanks for all the advice so far

          I do have one follow up question...my landlady, who is an experienced banker and has done some collections, says that I should send a letter to B&A asking them to provide me a list in writing of the items they want back. Is this something I should do?

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            #6
            Originally posted by hirochan120 View Post
            I do have one follow up question...my landlady, who is an experienced banker and has done some collections, says that I should send a letter to B&A asking them to provide me a list in writing of the items they want back. Is this something I should do?
            One possible problem doing that is depending on your state's debt collection laws, by contacting B&A you could potentially open the door to re-aging the secured debt - not a good thing.

            Give your bk lawyer a quick call and see what he/she recommends you do in this situation.
            I am not a lawyer and this is not legal advice nor a statement of the law - only a lawyer can provide those.

            06/01/06 - Filed Ch 13
            06/28/06 - 341 Meeting
            07/18/06 - Confirmation Hearing - not confirmed, 3 objections
            10/05/06 - Hearing to resolve 2 trustee objections
            01/24/07 - Judge dismisses mortgage company objection
            09/27/07 - Confirmed at last!
            06/10/11 - Trustee confirms all payments made
            08/10/11 - DISCHARGED !

            10/02/11 - CASE CLOSED
            Countdown: 60 months paid, 0 months to go

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              #7
              Just leave 'em alone. Don't contact them in any manner.

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                #8
                Agree with all the above posts...

                Additionally, watch your credit reports for bogus activity from these dirtbags...

                Don't talk to them. Save the letter in a file you can access at a later time.

                Forget them. Don't mail them anything. You are under NO OBLIGATION to talk/contact/cooperate with these dufus' in any fashion.

                Your discharged. It's over.

                The ONLY way they can recover any of these items is for you to voluntarily give them up.

                ...or for them to go to the expense of suing you in court.

                ...to recover how much?

                How much is that stuff worth at Goodwill?

                Have you ever seen BestBuy hold a garage sale for all the surrendered items they have "recovered?"

                B 'n A can go B 'n A....

                They have filed a Notice of Appearance in my BK, also working for BestBuy, so I expect to hear from them myself after my discharge.

                I plan to litigate if they get just a toe over the line.

                If they sue, they can come get their water logged goodies out of my flooded basement.

                ...but only after they have spent the money and time to sue me...

                CPO
                Last edited by CPO; 10-01-2007, 03:51 AM.

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                  #9
                  When I filed, Best Buy immediately sent my attorney a letter. We advised our attorney to respond by saying if Best Buy could produce a itemized list of everything then we would return it. Never heard from them again. Also, the fools never even filed a proof of claim so now they get nothing!!!!!!
                  sigpicPersevere: "To continue a course of action, in spite of difficulty, opposition or discouragement."

                  Chapter 13: Discharged 03/15/2010. Closed 05/19/2010::yahoo::yahoo::yahoo::yahoo::yahoo:

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                    #10
                    ANY LETTER you sign can be used against you even if just to harrass you. Drop it, it will go away most likely. Sign anything and you are toast.

                    They are looking to pick the carcass, that is all.
                    "You once asked me for advice. You want some now? Never pass up a good thing." Lieutenant Jean Rasczak, Starship Troopers

                    Join the Mobile Infantry and save the world. Service guarantees citizenship.

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