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    What would YOU Do?

    I'm so lost and confused, I would really appreciate some advice on my situation. I'm going to give as many specifics as I can think of to hopefully get the best advice. I'm new to this forum, so hopefully I am not breaking any rules by doing this.

    Okay, first things first, I am married, husband and I are in our 40's, kids are out on their own, so it is just the two of us. We used to live in Indiana and moved to Florida in March 2005. We have a home in Indiana that we tried to sell the conventional method for about a year, and finally gave up and agreed to sell on contract in Feb of 2006. Contract was for 2 years, technically it ended in Feb of this year, however, purchaser has failed to get financing and at this point it's looking like they are just going to walk away from the deal and give the house back to us. My husband and I both had pretty good paying jobs until recently. I was laid off in March of 2008 (closing agent at a title insurance company) and have been receiving $275 a week unemployment since then. My husband still has his job, however, it was our plan that he was only going to work there until the contract sale of our house in Indiana was completed, and we were going to take that money and use it to pay our bills while he and I went to school to get our cdl licenses and then we planned to start driving a truck together. He really hates his job and has only stayed there this long because we had a plan. Now, we just don't know what to do. If the guy quits paying us on our house in Indiana, we are not going to have the money to pay all our bills, at least not by my calculations, but I don't know that we would be eligible to file bk if they go by your last six months income.

    Here's our financial details:
    Husband gross pay $1025/week, mine is now $275/week unemployment since March, before that, it was $720/week. We have been receiving $652 per month from contract purchaser. As for bills, we have the following (and yes, I know it's a long list)
    Mortgage on house in Indiana $528 (total owed $67000), HE loan on same house $110/month (balance is $17,900), Mortgage on property in Florida $213/month (balance is $21,000), Car loan $462/month (balance is $23000, KBB value is $20,000), Truck loan is $365/month (balance is $21,000, KBB value is $16,300), Boat loan is $308/month (balance is 23,000, not sure what resale value is, but probably quite a bit less than what is owed), Student Loan $63/month (balance $2700), 9 credit cards with total of $865/month minimum payment (total balance of $43,065), HOA for Florida property $89/month, Electric Bill avg $170/month, Vonage $30/month, Verizon wireless $100/month, Comcast $163/month, Total insurance, boat, car, house, life $400/month, comes out to total monthly bills of $3867. Total net income per month is $4780, however if contract falls through, will drop to $4128 which would only leave us with $65 a week for groceries, clothes, medical, gas, entertainment, etc. We both have money in 401k's and about $3000 in our bank account.

    My problem is this, if the guy walks away from our house and quits paying us, we obviously do not have enough to pay the monthly bills and still afford to eat, but if the bk court looks at our past six month income I don't know that we would qualify for bankruptcy?

    What would the bankruptcy court say if my husband quit his job for me and him to go to school and start a new career?
    Would it be better to just let the house go into foreclosure and pay the rest of the bills?
    Like I said before, I just am so confused by all of this. Any help would be much appreciated!
    Last edited by lostinflorida; 06-11-2008, 05:42 AM. Reason: add spacing

    #2
    Can you rent the house in IN. And then place it back on the market at or just over what you owe plus selling fees.
    FL cape coral means test for family of 2 is 4220. a month, but it depends were you live for the actual amount.

    You can still make more than the means test and file chapter 7. just requires more paper work. But if you do have extra income you may have to file chapter 13

    No one can make the call on wether you should file. This is something that you need to think about and weigh out all the options.

    The folks on this forum can offer you support. Everyone is in the same ocean different boat.

    BK is also about timming.
    Filed BK 3-31-08
    341 meeting 5-16-08
    discharge 7-18-08
    Fico 595 pre filing, Fico 587 post filing

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      #3
      I'm also back in school and in your age group. My debt started when I left my hated job and went into RE and it all went down hill from there. Just plan your new career carefully. Trucking+high gas = less pay. (just my 2 cents)
      Filed BK 3-31-08
      341 meeting 5-16-08
      discharge 7-18-08
      Fico 595 pre filing, Fico 587 post filing

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        #4
        This economy has really screwed a lot of peoples' plans and futures. I heard on the radio this morning driving to work listening to a financial forecast that for people to now survive with the high cost of living (gas, food, everything basically), that lifestyles are going to have to change, majorily for some, to be able to survive. You got hit with the Indiana home issue which just blew your plans right out of the water. Almost's (previous poster) suggestion as to trying to rent your house is a great one and the best one at this point for you. Lots of people have foreclosed and are looking for place to rent. However, since you live in FL and the house is in IN you will have to have someone take care of the house in IN for you if there are rental issues (family, agent...). You certainly probably cannot afford to drive or fly to/from IN if there is a problem with house repairs, etc. That is something you will have to figure out in case you do have family/friends in that state.

        To get all your ducks in a row and to keep you from worrying, make an appointment to see a BK attorney in your area (most give free initial consultations) and the attorney can review your situation and let you know what you can or cannot do at this point. That way you will be armed with the information you need and can get more of a foothold as to what to do with the Indiana house.

        Filing BK is a complicated matter involving personal finances and timelines...decisions are hard, but you have to go by what is required in your state for your particular situation. What you feel you need to do is your decision; you will get all sorts of varying opinions on here but in the end it is basically your own call. All situations are different and vary as you will find out from reading/posting on here. Almost in his/her posting describes it well "same ocean, different boat." Love it - great description.
        _________________________________________
        Filed 5 Year Chapter 13: April 2002
        Early Buy-Out: April 2006
        Discharge: August 2006

        "A credit card is a snake in your pocket"

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          #5
          lostinflorida,

          just a quick posting suggestion .... it you want more responses, it's a good idea to create paragraphs and to space them out ... reading through long posts on the screen without breaks is really really hard on the eyes and most people don't read them.

          I didn't read your post because I didn't think I could get through it without getting lost.

          The trick is to create spacing, keep the paragraphs not too long. good luck ....

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            #6
            Lostinflorida, can you sell 'contract for deed'? That is a lot like rent but the rent goes to the price of the house. The bad is they can walk away from the place and you still are stuck. My thought is get someone in there and get some "thinking time". Also get a downpayment reasonable enough to entice someone but also reasonable enough that they don't want to walk away from the place. Just a thought. 'Hub
            If I knew it all, would I be here?? Hang in there = Retained attorney 8-06, Filed 12-28-07, Discharge 8-13-08, Finally CLOSED 11-3-09, 3-31-10 AP Dismissed, Informed by incompetent lawyer of CLOSED status, October 14, 2010.

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