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    Landlord offering excellent deal!!!? HELP!!!

    But is it really.... you be the judge.

    When we moved in, in 2005, we could have held the price of the home for $305K for $12K; then 2 yr. contract; and if we walked, we'd lose the $12K plus any extra on top of the rent.

    Our rent is $1450/mo.

    When we renewed our lease another 9 mos. (it will exp. 6/30/07) they would have wanted $15K to hold the price of the home around $315K (guesstimate). Home prices have been appreciating nicely in our area, but new homes now are offering $20-50K off if one can close in 30 days.

    We are expecting our discharge to be mid-Feb.

    Do we buy a new 2250 sq. ft. home for $255K (builder agreeing to pay roughly $3 of closing costs) which the price does not include closing costs and then end up paying $1800-2200/mo. on an 80/20 loan for 2 yrs. and then refinance in 2/09 only to have to pay closing costs again.....

    or....

    Do we take our landlords offer of NO MONEY DOWN (he's really being nice!?) to hold our home at $325K and pay an extra $150/mo. in taxes and then $400/mo. to come back to us in 2 yrs. He's wanting $2000/mo. in rent, instead of the $1450. But we'd gain $9600 back in 2009, we'd be able to get a conformed loan, vs. non-conformed now, and buy our home for $325, instead of the guesstimate price of $350K? Our rental home is gorgeous w/ many upgrades, plus we'd have our yard and wouldn't have to uproot the kids and sell the swingset ($600 Step2 set).

    I already called our lender and she said it's a GOOD DEAL. I've been in tears--or joy--hoping that this is the best way for us and that it is so nice to not have to worry, etc. I've been very worried that our landlord would want to sell eventually and we'd have to move. But he doesn't want to have to pay realtors fees to resell the house and he wants it to be a win-win situation for us. He ran the #'s on a loan for us and came up with $2300+/mo. on the $260K home w/o a backyard. It's an alley loader home. For anyone who doesn't know what that is, imagine your yard being the space between the 2 houses.

    Last mo. when the thread went on for quite awhile about non-conforming loans, someone mentioned this, but we were always told he'd want the $12-15K to hold the price of the home. So now the landlord will do the deal without that money. We've been paying him $1450/mo. since 10/1/05. We are good tenants.

    The decision looks pretty obvious, but your insight is always appreciated!

    And one more thing, our lender is proposing that when we'd go to buy this $325K home in 2 yrs. that the mortgage would be about $2500/mo. The $9600 back to us would go towards closing costs, basically. Our cars would be paid off and we would be more comfortable with $2500/mo. mortgage at that time. But the bottom line is we have to know soon if we want to stay here another...say...6 yrs, if not more, and we are comfortable here and the home works for us. The only thing that's lacking is neighborhood friends for our kids and walking trails. But I know if we moved to the other area that we like a little better, we'd never be able to get into a lease to own option without putting $5-10K down. Our landlord doesn't want that. How is that possible??!

    Is this too good to be true!?

    #2
    You left out alot of important information. 315k vs. 255k by itself, does not sound like a very good deal, without knowing more details.

    How much are these houses really worth? Have they been appraised?

    What are the % rates?

    Can you really afford it?

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      #3
      Home prices...

      Our rental home now was $305K 10/1/05 and landlord would 'strike us a deal' for $325 in 2 yrs. But that's after continuing to pay him $1450/mo. PLUS another $150 in taxes for 2 yrs (in the contract) plus another $400/mo. that would come back to us after 2 yrs. (Totaling $2000/mo. and $38,400 down the drain in rent money).

      I think we've come to the conclusion (after all my excitement in the other post) that we do not want to pay $2600/mo. for a 2 yr. after bankruptcy loan for a $325 house that we do not LOVE the neighborhood that it's in. We love the house, but the neighborhood is falling apart. All the more reason to wonder if the landlord is just begging us to commit to $325 because he knows he won't be getting that if he chooses to sell in a few years. He also doesn't want tenants to come in and destroy his house. We are a tenants dream. hahaha

      The $255K house was $290K (and appraises for that), it has 250 more sq. ft. (totaling 2250 sq. ft), in the neighborhood that we love w/ the better school. It's priced down to $255 because my parents are buying a home from the same builder and they are giving us a deal. They are even buying a fridge for us, including blinds, and paying around $3K of the closing costs. But this is all TBD, due to the rates they come back with.

      Resale homes are more money than the new homes in this area.

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        #4
        If you are being discharged in Feb., how/what type of mortgage are you looking at? We have to refi our adjustable rate mortgage in Nov., discharged in Jan and I was under the assumptiont that rates would suck.

        Thanks

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          #5
          I read at a website the other day,............ Post BK tips for what you should and should not do.

          If you can afford the payments of a 15 year mortgage on a home, buy it.

          You are talking about struggling with the payments to start, and then being comfortable when your cars are paid for. Our cars are paid for.

          Hubby's truck broke down the other day. He's been having trouble with it for a while, unbeknownst to me. It needed a fuel pump, and while it was in the shop, we had the oil changed and I asked them to check on a few other things.

          The repair bill was $750. $450 of it was the fuel pump. I checked on the pricing of the part a few places. Yep, that's going rate. We are so fortunate that the fuel pump in Hubby's truck is one of the expensive ones! $75 of the bill was a diagnostics fee to check out the other issues. Shop rate for 2.5 hours of labor to pull out the old and install the new fuel pump. My brother said they musta had to pull the gas tank for that.

          But so anyway,............... With the new mortgage payments, and older cars, are you gonna be able to handle auto repair bills as they come up?? You won't be making monthly payments, but repairs will be an issue, I assure you!
          Filed Ch 7 - 09/06
          Discharged - 12/2006
          Officially Declared No Asset - 03/2007
          Closed - 04/2007

          I am not an attorney. My comments are based on personal experience and research. Always consult an attorney in your area to address concerns related to your particular situation.

          Another good thing about being poor is that when you are seventy your children will not have declared you legally insane in order to gain control of your estate. - Woody Allen...

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            #6
            lease or buy...

            I meant 'comfortable' in the sense that we'd be able to take that Disney World vacation if we wanted to, when the cars are paid off. But what will probably happen is that we'll trade in one of the cars for a new vehicle in a few years, so Disney World will have to wait.

            And I'll never forget spending $1500 here and there (on average) for my 10 yr. old Honda years ago. Car repairs aren't cheap and should always be budgeted! Our cars are barely 2 & 3 yrs. old and still under warranty.

            But besides the cars, I am guessing my landlords proposal isn't as great as it first sounded. No one seems to have any feedback on the lease to own for 2 yrs. But I understand how it's also a personal decision (due to location, sq. footage, etc).

            Our landlord was trying to 'sell' us on his proposal for 30+ min. on the phone. The last thing I want to do is ruin our relationship if we do not take his offer, but the fact of the matter is we can buy a home just as nice for $70K less right now.

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