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    How to start the process of getting on a payment plan with the IRS?

    This isn't a BK related question (FWIW, it's been over 10 years since my Chapter 7 discharge), but I figure that a lot of folks have found themselves in my situation.

    For 2019 (and will so again in 2020), I had a tax liability of under $1K and had NO taxes withheld. An initial 2019 return with NO tax liability had been done before the COVID emergency, and which it seems was processed, but during the emergency, I filed an amended return. I have not received anything from the IRS about the underpayment, and presume that under the COVID emergency rules, the amended returns are a low probability. I will file on April 15 for this year.

    I've heard "from here & there" that one cannot be proactive and contact the IRS to ask about setting up a payment plan, but has to wait until the IRS sends a letter (which could be problematic for me since I am away form my home for months at a time) about it, at which time a payment plan can be done.

    Also, it seems that the penalty & interest now is only about 10%, so I'd rather keep that debt than keep my high-interest debt.

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    Unless and until you have a tax liability or tax "bill" from the IRS, setting up an OPA (online payment agreement) should not be done. You want to make sure it includes all your taxes, penalties, interest and other fees before setting it up. That's why you should wait.

    If you can't wait, you can always make payments into your tax account using the various online IRS tax payment services. This would reduce the amount that you owe. As the IRS and others always recommend... pay as much as you can towards the debt as soon as you can. This helps to reduce the amount of interest and could reduce the amount of penalties.

    I think the OPA (online) arrangement is pretty easy once you know what you owe and it's below some threshold (I think it used to be $50K).
    Chapter 7 (No Asset/Non-Consumer) Filed (Pro Se) 7/08 (converted from Chapter 13 - 2/10)
    Status: (Auto) Discharged and Closed! 5/10
    Visit My BKForum Blog: justbroke's Blog

    Any advice provided is not legal advice, but simply the musings of a fellow bankrupt.

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      #3
      Originally posted by justbroke View Post
      Unless and until you have a tax liability or tax "bill" from the IRS, setting up an OPA (online payment agreement) should not be done. You want to make sure it includes all your taxes, penalties, interest and other fees before setting it up. That's why you should wait.

      If you can't wait, you can always make payments into your tax account using the various online IRS tax payment services. This would reduce the amount that you owe. As the IRS and others always recommend... pay as much as you can towards the debt as soon as you can. This helps to reduce the amount of interest and could reduce the amount of penalties.

      I think the OPA (online) arrangement is pretty easy once you know what you owe and it's below some threshold (I think it used to be $50K).
      AIUI, the net (penalty + interest) finance charge of past due taxes is only 10%; that's beats some of the CC debt I have, so I want to pay down the CCs and let the past due taxes ride for as long as possible.

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        #4
        Originally posted by joshuagraham View Post
        I've heard "from here & there" that one cannot be proactive and contact the IRS to ask about setting up a payment plan, but has to wait until the IRS sends a letter (which could be problematic for me since I am away form my home for months at a time) about it, at which time a payment plan can be done.
        I was able to find out how much I owed and they were ready to setup a payment plan.
        Review XXXXX for links / phone numbers


        Last edited by justbroke; 03-02-2022, 09:01 AM. Reason: [moderator removed link to another thread... debtors should always obtain phone numbers directly from the IRS website at irs dot gov]]

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          #5
          bornfree2 please re-read the forum rules on opening old threads.

          The answer that was given above is that you cannot set up a repayment plan, if you don't yet owe any money. That was the thrust of this thread. One should wait to make sure everything is in the payment plan before setting up an OPA, as discussed above.
          Chapter 7 (No Asset/Non-Consumer) Filed (Pro Se) 7/08 (converted from Chapter 13 - 2/10)
          Status: (Auto) Discharged and Closed! 5/10
          Visit My BKForum Blog: justbroke's Blog

          Any advice provided is not legal advice, but simply the musings of a fellow bankrupt.

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            #6
            Originally posted by justbroke View Post
            bornfree2 please re-read the forum rules on opening old threads.

            The answer that was given above is that you cannot set up a repayment plan, if you don't yet owe any money. That was the thrust of this thread. One should wait to make sure everything is in the payment plan before setting up an OPA, as discussed above.
            oh okay sorry i didnt realize we do not cross reference to other threads on here. And yes it appears i miss read the question

            edit: okay found the rule i thinkg you are refering to here:

            All BKF users agree not to "bump" old threads, unless there is a specific benefit to the community by doing so. But in most cases, please don't post in very old threads, instead start new threads.

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              #7
              Yes, you can crosslink threads, but we usually use the entire URL. The link was removed because it referenced using phone numbers for the IRS. We always just refer people to the official IRS website.
              Chapter 7 (No Asset/Non-Consumer) Filed (Pro Se) 7/08 (converted from Chapter 13 - 2/10)
              Status: (Auto) Discharged and Closed! 5/10
              Visit My BKForum Blog: justbroke's Blog

              Any advice provided is not legal advice, but simply the musings of a fellow bankrupt.

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