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    Ford objection to auto cramdown payment amount

    With less than a week to our confirmation hearing (which is Wednesday), we received in the mail an objection from Ford on the cramdown payment amount.

    Cutting through all the legaleese on the objection paperwork, Ford is basically saying that our plan "fails to provide for the present value of FMCC;s secured claim by failing to provide the proper formula discount rate in conformance with 11 U.S.C. 1325(a)(5)(B)(ii) and Till v. SCS Credit Corp., 124 S. Ct. 1951 (2004)....blah blah blah...prime interest rate increased....blah blah blah.

    We are stating replacement value of the car @ $5855, Ford is stating replacement retail value @ $8695. Ford is using EXCELLENT condition of the car as KBB definition.

    FMCC is asking for the court to adjust the national prime rate interest of 8.25% upward 2% points as a result of the 2 factors which demonstrate a potential default by the Debtor (each risk factor---a: rapidly depreciating asset and b: the repayment over a period of time that extends approximately 35 months beyond the original terms of the contract and as a consequence exposes FMCC to additional risk of default).

    The monetary amount per month that Ford wants an increase? $60.00

    I am emailing our attorney right now to point out that the car does NOT meet KBB definition of EXCELLENT condition in that it HAS been in an accident and has had paint and body work. The car in question is NOT in the 5% group of cars that end up in this category.

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    No real questions, but I know people read and learn from this forum, so I wanted to put this experience out there. I will update as things progress.

    -sue
    Filed 07/07, $120k unsecured debt
    Plan: $400 (includes cram down) 60 months
    Brilliant attorney, decent trustee, awesome plan

    #2
    What will probably happen is you both you and Ford will have meet somewhere in the middle.

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      #3
      Yes, that happened in my case, too.

      And there was a meeting in the middle.

      It all worked out. The payment didn't change. The OVERALL payment didn't change. The car people got a little more, the unsecured people got a little less. It was all between my attorney and theirs. No separate hearing or anything.

      I hope it works out just as well for you! It can be so stressful, can't it??? It's like, now what?? until you are confirmed. I hope it all works out ok for you.

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        #4
        Thanks for the input! We faxed over the car repair documents to our attorney to deal with. In the grand scheme of things I'm looking at this as a hiccup and letting the attorney deal with it ;)

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        Filed 07/07, $120k unsecured debt
        Plan: $400 (includes cram down) 60 months
        Brilliant attorney, decent trustee, awesome plan

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          #5
          I agree, don't sweat it, if there is a meeting in the middle, all it should mean to you is the unsecured gets less, the secured gets a little more.
          Chapter 13 Filed 4/03/06 :blink: 341 Meeting Complete 5/11/06 :yes2:
          Plan Confirmation 6/16/06 :yahoo:
          Discharged: 1/5/2010 :yahoo::yahoo::yahoo::yahoo:

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            #6
            Update:

            Confirmation moved to mid October. Attorney is sending over the documents we faxed to her regarding the accident/body work that knocks the car out of *excellent* KBB definition.

            The attorney also asked what % rate we financed at, which was at 0%....she's going to go against the 10.25%.

            We hadn't been stressing about it, just noticed on PACER that the confirmation date had been pushed out.

            We contacted her to find out if the ACH transfer for the trustee was starting this month or if we needed a cashier's check---at that time she gave us the skinny on the Ford issue. Once the plan is confirmed THEN our ACH transfers will start.

            On the good side, 2 months down!
            Filed 07/07, $120k unsecured debt
            Plan: $400 (includes cram down) 60 months
            Brilliant attorney, decent trustee, awesome plan

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