I guess what it comes down to is this. if you have a decent income and are able to pay back the total amount of debt, then take your total debt, plus 10% trustee fee, plus what ever lawyer fees are left, total it all together and divide by 60months. in my case thats $1039month for 60months. Well that puts me back to being basically broke again every month.
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If your disposible income is at least $1039/month, then that would be correct. Have you run the numbers to see what your disposible income is?Originally posted by pete42 View PostI guess what it comes down to is this. if you have a decent income and are able to pay back the total amount of debt, then take your total debt, plus 10% trustee fee, plus what ever lawyer fees are left, total it all together and divide by 60months. in my case thats $1039month for 60months. Well that puts me back to being basically broke again every month.
We are a family of 2 (no children), make over $100k/year and owed $320k in unsecured debt. My payment is $950/mo.Filed CH13 - 06/2009
Confirmed - 01/2010
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That's about it. After legit expenses, anything you have left goes to the trustee...the lawyer and trustee get their share, secured gets 100 percent and the rest is divvied up equally.
If 1039 is your disposable income after subtracting all expenses, that is what you are paying. How much you have left=how much you are paying.First consult: You go now, no CH 7 for you. You spent entire buffet. 13 has a 95 percent payback. (Owwwch) On to next consult....
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Have you thought about cutting back in certain areas of your life? I'm sure there are things that you can change and stop spending money on. I'm hoping to retain the high but reasonable payment that my atty has proposed, but prepared to start cutting in certain areas should the trustee object and increase my payment amount. It sucks, no doubt, but for me, it's the only way out.Filed Ch 13 - 2/2010
341 meeting - 4/2010
Confirmed! - 6/2010
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I think most people do this prior to filing, when they're struggling to pay their bills.Originally posted by Lissy View PostHave you thought about cutting back in certain areas of your life? I'm sure there are things that you can change and stop spending money on.
I hear you OP. We're paying more in our bankruptcy than we were before our bankruptcy. My suggestion is to get good and familiar with your budget, categorize every dollar spent, so you can detail your plan really well and make your payment do-able.Ch 13 filed 06/22/09. Dismissed,thankfully, 03/31/10. Ch 7 filed 06/28/10. 341 07/29/10. UST POA 08/06/10. UST mot to dismiss hearing extended to Dec...Feb...March...May...Aug. UST withdrawal of dismissal filed 05/31! DISCHARGED 07/12/2011!
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We were just the opposite as far as what we paid out before and after....
we went from being 1000's short every month to being able to live with cash on a budget and we are doing ok.
yes its hard but life is so much better with that monkey off our back...you know..."how are we going to keep this going"
now we pay our bills, bk pymnt, and if we are lucky we have a bit left to save or go out to eat with.
good luck op....I hope it works out for you
Filed July 09
Confirmation - June 2010
Final Payment - June 2014 - 7/2/14 DISCHARGED
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The IRS standards are pretty lenient as far as food/clothing, and transportation expenses. If you learn to shop frugally, you can end up with a very comfortable amount of extra money each month. It really is about adjusting to a cash-only lifestyle. Suddenly, what you considered "necessities" when you had credit are no longer truly necessary when you have to pay cash. It's hard at first, but once you get used to it, it's a very freeing feeling!Originally posted by pete42 View PostI guess what it comes down to is this. if you have a decent income and are able to pay back the total amount of debt, then take your total debt, plus 10% trustee fee, plus what ever lawyer fees are left, total it all together and divide by 60months. in my case thats $1039month for 60months. Well that puts me back to being basically broke again every month.Filed Chapter 13 on 2-28-10. 341 completed 4/14/10. Confirmed 5/14/10. Lien strip granted 2/2/11
0% payback to unsecured creditors, 56 payments down, 4 to go....
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Maybe, maybe not. Chapter 13 teaches you to live on a budget. From what I hear, that is harder for some people to do than others. I cut back when I started having difficulty with my bills, but I may have to cut back even further depending on what my final monthly payment amount ends up being. I'm already thinking of ways I can do that; they are there.Originally posted by olivies View PostI think most people do this prior to filing, when they're struggling to pay their bills.
My payment, if it stays at the proposed amount (341 still yet to be scheduled), will be $100/month more than I was paying when I was struggling. It's not going to be easy to come up with that, but I have to. And if the trustee objects to something and raises that payment, it will be that much harder. That's why I'm already planning for it, just in case it happens.Filed Ch 13 - 2/2010
341 meeting - 4/2010
Confirmed! - 6/2010
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consider that your debt will be paid off in five years without interest accumulating.. how long would it have taken to repay without a CH13?Originally posted by pete42 View PostI guess what it comes down to is this. if you have a decent income and are able to pay back the total amount of debt, then take your total debt, plus 10% trustee fee, plus what ever lawyer fees are left, total it all together and divide by 60months. in my case thats $1039month for 60months. Well that puts me back to being basically broke again every month.
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I don't know what state you're in, but you should probably look into converting to a Chapter 7. At the very least, report the loss of income and try to modify your plan so that your payments are lower.Originally posted by Universal View PostI make 43,000.00 a year, husband lost job first of this year. Payout is $1,440.00 a month; and that sure don't leave much to live on does it.Filed Ch 13 - 2/2010
341 meeting - 4/2010
Confirmed! - 6/2010
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