Yeah, I looked it up and there's two engine codes for that year.
W10
Automatic Transmission,GACVT16Z.....VTF[4]
No AMSOIL Product Recommendation
Footnote 4 says:
4. Esso CVT EZL 799 Fluid, MINI P/N 83 22 0 136 376
W11
Automatic Transmission,GA6F21WA.....TIV
Synthetic Automatic Transmission Fluid
Some how you'd have to be able to look up those numbers and see which corresponds to your transmission, either the W10 or W11. As you can see, one recommends it and the other doesn't.
You only want to use exactly what they recommend. A friend of mine has a 2002 Hyundai Sonata. He put in the Amsoil 0W30 because that's the best 30 weight oil. But when going to their on-line guide, for that year car they only recommend using the European 5W40 for his engine.
After a month, he checked his dipstick and the oil level was low. That engine wasn't compatible with the oil. Could have been different seals or what not. He put in the European 5W40 and it ran perfect after that, and he told me that he got about an extra 50 miles per tank from the increases gas mileage.
The European oil is an excellent oil, but it only lasts up to the manufacturer's recommended drain intervals, while the 0W30 exceeds the manufacturers drain intervals up to 11 times.... BUT, your engine has to be compatible with it. And with that 0W30, you have to change the oil filter a couple times if you go the full 35,000 miles without draining it. You top off when you swap filters. It's also good to order a little extra. In one car I went the 35,000 miles and the car used about 1/2 quart of oil in all that time, so I topped off a little bit, but another car I used went the full 35,000 miles without burning a single drop. Each car is different.
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it is a 2005 MINI CooperOriginally posted by debtmonster View PostI'm not sure if you can use Amsoil ATF in that or not. What year is your Mini?
I know that most CVT's, you can't use their oil right now as some CVT's have different specifications.
If you can't use Amsoil in it, then I would be RELIGIOUS on changing the fluid in that thing and I would do it SOONER than LATER. I've heard the nightmares about CVT replacement. Give me the year and I ask somebody to see if Amsoil ATF is compatible or not. If it is, you can keep that thing running virtually forever.
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Nevermind... I found the document.
The funny thing is, the oil you're using now, you can't brag about anything about it, yet you guys knock Amsoil. That makes no logical sense.
That's why I said... humans are "creatures of habit". It's easier for somebody to knock something than to try it because they don't like to break the cycle of what they are accustomed to doing all the time.
Like I said, I don't think like that. If you can recommend a better product that I am using now and it will save me money in the long run, I am ALL EARS.
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I wouldn't be wasting my time talking all this time about it if it didn't. I read a document some place where a van went over 930,000 miles on the same engine and transmission using this fluid. Dexron and Mercon V are total garbage. BELIEVE ME when I say this. You should be out researching this stuff. I wish this forum would let me upload PDF's.Originally posted by lolasaurus View PostI suppose this oil prevents the clutches in your automatic transmission from wearing as well?
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I suppose this oil prevents the clutches in your automatic transmission from wearing as well?Originally posted by debtmonster View PostApparently you haven't seen the van that went 930,000 miles with only 1% wear. Everyone who scoffs at this oil has never spent any real time researching it. You all need to thank me for all of the time I have tried to explain to you about this stuff where I don't make a dime from my efforts.
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Apparently you haven't seen the van that went 930,000 miles with only 1% wear. Everyone who scoffs at this oil has never spent any real time researching it. You all need to thank me for all of the time I have tried to explain to you about this stuff where I don't make a dime from my efforts.Originally posted by lolasaurus View Postlol @ bolded part
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lol @ bolded partOriginally posted by debtmonster View PostAs long as you're using that oil, the engine and transmission should never wear out. Everything else is easy and cheap to fix. Window motors, alternators, water pumps, etc. That's peanuts to repair compared to what it would cost to rebuild an engine or transmission.
For years I used Mobil 1 religiously. I always told everyone, "If you find a better oil, let me know, otherwise I'm going to use Mobil 1 forever."
Then I started seeing their ASTM tests and Amsoil beat everyone. A friend of mine is a dealer and I order through him. Actually both me and another friend other through this guy.
If you're using Pennzoil, Quaker State, Havoline, Mobil 1, Royal Purple, Red Line or any of those other oils, you're simply throwing your money away. Believe me. I've been through all this before. I've driven well over 600,000+ miles in all of my driving experience. Between picking up the Mobil 1 synthetic, the filter and then bringing it to a place to have them put it in, I used to pay over $60-70 an oil change every 3,000 miles. What a WASTE of money that was. However, I didn't know any better. I fell for the fancy commercials and ads. I never bothered to know what ASTM testing was done.
This page shows some of the ASTM results. Funny how Mobil 1 doesn't proudly show those numbers off. They scammed me FOR YEARS. NEVER AGAIN.
This stuff is too hard to sell. Look how people are so brainwashed into using what they are using. This is why I can't be a dealer for it. I've already showed you guys the proof that it's better and yet you'll continue to keep using what you've been using because humans are CREATURES OF HABIT. I'm not like that. If you have something better than what I am using and it will save me money, I want to know all about it. I'm very open-minded when it comes to stuff. The majority of the people aren't like that. Most people don't like change. I do.
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We don't recommend getting into debt again. Learn from your past mistakes and buy cars for CASH.Originally posted by spearmint View PostWhat kind of credit score do you have to have for your own credit union to give you a car loan?
Credit is NOT FREE. You have to pay for it. Hunker down and save up the cash.
Please look at this web site and re-read it and get rid of the "new car fever". That's what got most all of us into the mess we're in now.
Be positive. YOU CAN DO IT!!
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What kind of credit score do you have to have for your own credit union to give you a car loan?
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As long as you're using that oil, the engine and transmission should never wear out. Everything else is easy and cheap to fix. Window motors, alternators, water pumps, etc. That's peanuts to repair compared to what it would cost to rebuild an engine or transmission.Originally posted by lolasaurus View Postlol I mean no offense, but it takes more than oil to make a reliable vehicle. I'm not saying there's anything wrong with amsoil, but even amsoil isn't going to make some vehicles reliable.
For years I used Mobil 1 religiously. I always told everyone, "If you find a better oil, let me know, otherwise I'm going to use Mobil 1 forever."
Then I started seeing their ASTM tests and Amsoil beat everyone. A friend of mine is a dealer and I order through him. Actually both me and another friend other through this guy.
If you're using Pennzoil, Quaker State, Havoline, Mobil 1, Royal Purple, Red Line or any of those other oils, you're simply throwing your money away. Believe me. I've been through all this before. I've driven well over 600,000+ miles in all of my driving experience. Between picking up the Mobil 1 synthetic, the filter and then bringing it to a place to have them put it in, I used to pay over $60-70 an oil change every 3,000 miles. What a WASTE of money that was. However, I didn't know any better. I fell for the fancy commercials and ads. I never bothered to know what ASTM testing was done.
This page shows some of the ASTM results. Funny how Mobil 1 doesn't proudly show those numbers off. They scammed me FOR YEARS. NEVER AGAIN.
This stuff is too hard to sell. Look how people are so brainwashed into using what they are using. This is why I can't be a dealer for it. I've already showed you guys the proof that it's better and yet you'll continue to keep using what you've been using because humans are CREATURES OF HABIT. I'm not like that. If you have something better than what I am using and it will save me money, I want to know all about it. I'm very open-minded when it comes to stuff. The majority of the people aren't like that. Most people don't like change. I do.
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lol I mean no offense, but it takes more than oil to make a reliable vehicle. I'm not saying there's anything wrong with amsoil, but even amsoil isn't going to make some vehicles reliable.
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I'm not sure if you can use Amsoil ATF in that or not. What year is your Mini?Originally posted by inpain66 View PostFunny you would mention CVT.
My MINI Has a CVT. That is the only reason I am nervous to keep it since a new CVT costs like 8k! Last thing I want is to have a car loan AND try to figure out how to come up with that kind of money. MINI is made by BMW and I have around 50 k on mine so CVT should not be an issue for a while.
I do not want to reaffirm the MINI..I just want to keep paying it.
I know that most CVT's, you can't use their oil right now as some CVT's have different specifications.
If you can't use Amsoil in it, then I would be RELIGIOUS on changing the fluid in that thing and I would do it SOONER than LATER. I've heard the nightmares about CVT replacement. Give me the year and I ask somebody to see if Amsoil ATF is compatible or not. If it is, you can keep that thing running virtually forever.
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If I was to get a short-term temporary beater car, then I would not want to spend more than $1500 and hope that it lasts at least 6 months before I either junk it or sell it close to what I paid for.
Believe me, you won't save a dime by using any other oil. I've already done tons of research. There's no reason to buy any other oil on the market. Amsoil comes out as the only oil as to "have your cake and eat it, too" oil. It's a proven fact to be better than anything you can buy in any store, plus it lasts up to 8 to 11x longer than any of the other oils. If the other oils are not going to offer better protection or last as long, then why bother? You're simply throwing away your money on Mobil 1, Castrol or any of those other oils that you will have to change frequently. Frequent oil changes = pissing away money. Remember, we're supposed to learn from our financial mistakes on here.
I can drive 100,000 miles and only need 20 quarts of Amsoil to do it. You can't do that with any other oil. My gas mileage has increased in every single car I've ever used it in.
I've used Castrol, Mobil 1, and many others for years until I learned about this product. You should be thanking me for even telling you about this stuff because these people never seem to advertise anywhere. I was fortunate to learn about it from some friends. After I did tons of research and saw the results for myself, I never went back to Mobil 1 or Castrol Syntec ever again... not to mention the fortune I am now saving in eliminated oil changes. I'm telling you... you really need to research this oil. Whatever oil you're using now, Amsoil will blow it away. Nobody beats them. Believe me, if there was a better oil than Amsoil, I'D BE USING IT.
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Funny you would mention CVT.Originally posted by debtmonster View PostThere's nothing wrong with a Neon. They just have a cheap interior. You take a car like that and the day you buy it, you put Amsoil engine oil and tranny fluid in and that drivedrain will never leave you stranded. All you have to worry about is alternators and water pumps, which go bad on any car. You won't find a better fluid for the money. Anything in the autoparts store or Walmart is crap compared to Amsoil. Plus that tranny fluid will reliably go 100,000 miles. That will save me 3 transmission flushes right there in the next 100,000 miles I would put on a car like that. The only car you can't use that fluid in is the tranny in a Toyota Prius or other CVT. Neon's are cheap and don't have CVT's, so you'd be good to go.
What I wanted to do was maybe make 3 to 6 months payments on my car after the discharge until I have $6,000 cash saved up. Remember, we're living here rent-free, so instead of paying the $1100/mo. for our house, we could be saving that cash towards a car. I want to be close to 100% debt-free as possible by the time the sheriff throws us out. When I have to go renting a new place, I don't want car payments again. We just need to self-insure by putting away $2,000 some place in lieu of buying an extended warranty. If the car doesn't break in the next few years, the $2,000 is ours. If you pay for an extended warranty and the car doesn't break, you lose all the money.
Anyway, that car is just an example. There's many people here that would only buy Mopar, so that would be the way to go. I would rather try to buy a Nissan or Honda, but those cars are very hard to find for late model cars for under $6,000.
My MINI Has a CVT. That is the only reason I am nervous to keep it since a new CVT costs like 8k! Last thing I want is to have a car loan AND try to figure out how to come up with that kind of money. MINI is made by BMW and I have around 50 k on mine so CVT should not be an issue for a while.
I do not want to reaffirm the MINI..I just want to keep paying it.
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