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    Question regarding Motion for Relief from Stay: strange situation!!!

    So we filed on 8/15 and had our 341 on 9/12.....our trustee has already filed our No Distribution Report, and we were to get discharged 11/14...........yesterday in the mail we receive a Motion for Relief from Stay filed by FirstMerit Bank..........my wife had a car loan through them, but to say the least they are lying scumbags.......anyways, they repossesed the car on the morning of June 22 of this year.
    They say in the motion that they do not have possession of the car, and want relief so they can call the balance due, repossess, and sell the car. They attached the Title......HOWEVER
    WE are getting a copy of the entry from the PD here stating the request etc, that the repo company has to give them letting them know they have the car. Also, the title they provided is aprrently inactive. I looked up the VIN, and they gt a new title in Ohio on the car on 8/5, solely in their name with the mileage when it was repoed. ALSO, the co-signer, my father in law, gave us a letter he received early August from them stating they had the car, with VIN etc., and that they were going to sell it August 25 in Tampa. i have drafted the Opposition to file this week stating as such, and attaching these as Exhibits, and my wife and I also completed affidavits, getting notarized tomorrw, stating the vehicle was repoed and is not in our possession.

    Question: what in the world is the deal?? They are obviously lying to a Federal Court, knowing they have the car, and a new title...........this will be set for hearing, right?
    What do you all think will happen with this.....any advice....are we going about it the right way?? And what is the worst that can happen......I thought they sold the car way back in Jul, as that was the original date before this August date popped up.........they have the freaking car, and they say they don;t!!!!....wost case the judge lets them sell, and discharges any remaining debt with the loan??\

    We appreciate any info suggestions, etc. as this caught us out of left field.....lying to a federal court?????

    #2
    I guess you are filing pro se, your concern is the discharge at this point, who knows how many people that this account has gone thru and someone didn't do their job, get your papers together and give them to the trustees with a detailed letter of explanation.
    I'll be watching, you may never know when or how, but I'll be there. I am there now....

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      #3
      My best guess is the BK department isn't in contact w/ the rest of the company...

      Our of curiosity, did you liste the account as a secured creditor or an unsecured?
      Most of my information is from personal experience or HOURS and HOURS of online research. When you're searching online, keep in mind there is no guarantee that the info is completely up to date, and your situation is unique from anyone else's. Do your homework, and consult with an attorney so you can make an informed decision.

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        #4
        Originally posted by StaciMM
        My best guess is the BK department isn't in contact w/ the rest of the company...

        Our of curiosity, did you liste the account as a secured creditor or an unsecured?
        It was listed as unsecured, with the estimated balance, and we also put in parenthases that the vehicle was repossesed...but yes, it was listed as unsecured

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          #5
          Originally posted by sunshine08
          I guess you are filing pro se, your concern is the discharge at this point, who knows how many people that this account has gone thru and someone didn't do their job, get your papers together and give them to the trustees with a detailed letter of explanation.
          we are filing the opposition to the motion at court on wednesday...i already have it drafted....you have to do this within 15 days or the order is automatically entered....of course in addition to filing it, we are serving their attorney, the trustee and the US trustee with it as well, attaching all these papers as exhibits......

          aslo, i called and left a message with their attorney informing him that the car was repossesed as of june 22, and if he had any questions to contct me....i am hoping we don't both have to miss work for a stupid 5 minute hearing because they are liars or can't get their stuff straight

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            #6
            Aside from the principal of the matter, there is really nothing for you to oppose, if they already have the car, it really doesn't matter to you that they lift the automatic stay. The purpose of lifting the automatic stay is so the car company can repo the car and sell it, if they already have repo'ed the car, so be it. Sorry to say, its not like you are going to get any thing out of it for pointing out to the court that they mis lead the court. Odds are, all that will happen if what you say is true, is they will withdraw the motion.

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              #7
              Originally posted by HHM
              Aside from the principal of the matter, there is really nothing for you to oppose, if they already have the car, it really doesn't matter to you that they lift the automatic stay. The purpose of lifting the automatic stay is so the car company can repo the car and sell it, if they already have repo'ed the car, so be it. Sorry to say, its not like you are going to get any thing out of it for pointing out to the court that they mis lead the court. Odds are, all that will happen if what you say is true, is they will withdraw the motion.
              Well, I am opposing the motion because I would rather have the motion withdrawn than the liars that they are get the satisfaction of a hearing date even.......It would take me a long time to explain, but everyone I have known has had problems with them.....they have had suits against them time and time again fro falsification of records, and also in regards to their business practices......this car should have been sold way before bankruptcy was filed...but hey, who cares that a bank doesn't do what they are supposed to do under the law...such as let us knwo where the personal belongings were, they had no clue if they are in west palm, tampa, akron, cleveland...they have been corrupt for a long long time....the Attorney General just keeps turning a blind eye in ohio unfortunately..........and quite honestly, as a law student, I would love the opportunity to face their attorney in a hearing and love to hear how he argues they don't have the car........

              Not to mention I had sued them myself in 2000 and won.....they repossessed my truck when payments were current and damaged it.....I sued them, the towing company and the city police department, and won.....resulting in termination of my loan obligations and having the vehicle freeand clear due to conversion...so needless to say, I am aware what they are capable of
              Last edited by iggie97; 10-16-2005, 09:05 PM.

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                #8
                Originally posted by iggie97
                ... FirstMerit Bank ... I sued them, the towing company and the city police department, and won.....resulting in termination of my loan obligations and having the vehicle freeand clear due to conversion...
                Sounds like either their adminsitration is totally messed up, or they are trying to get even with you...
                I'm in N. California ... Thanks for your replies!
                10/11/05: bought www.form7.com software
                10/14/05: Filed Ch 7 BK Petition pro se skeleton
                10/27/05: Filed all schedules, etc.
                11/17/05: 341 meeting (done!)
                01/16/06: Last day to file objections
                01/18/06: Discharged, closed

                Bankruptcy LINKS

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                  #9
                  the same thing happened to me. I had even received a letter a week before from them saying they were going to sell the car. My attorney said the relief is just a formality so they can sell it. If you have the proof they have the car don't sweat it.

                  Filed 09/26
                  341 10/28
                  discharge 12/28

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