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    Ok, so, I get an email from my attorney

    This morning at work at 9:30, I got an email from my BK atty stating I was above the median for a Ch. 7. Said somethink like the cut off was $38K and I was making $49K and he asked for any medical expenses, co-pays, etc. that he could work into it in the "next few business days." I used to make $55K but took a pay cut back in August since the firm was doing poorly.

    Fast forward to 3:30 today, I got laid off. So my income is now -0-. I have applied online for unemployment, ... but wouldn't this make my situation a Chapter 7 now?

    I had been with that law firm for 3 years and it is faltering and partners are leaving right and left with their associates and staff. Long story, but the firm is going D O W N.

    But back to me, does this insure a Chapter 7 now?
    11/09 FICO - 735 ~ 01/10 FICO 545

    #2
    Well, I would certainly think so. Yes. If your Law Firm were so good, they would have gotten a certification for bk in this day and time. For what you know, you could free lance as a paralegal. 'hub
    If I knew it all, would I be here?? Hang in there = Retained attorney 8-06, Filed 12-28-07, Discharge 8-13-08, Finally CLOSED 11-3-09, 3-31-10 AP Dismissed, Informed by incompetent lawyer of CLOSED status, October 14, 2010.

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      #3
      When I lost my FT job, it certainly made our borderline Ch13 case a Ch7.
      "To go bravely forward is to invite a miracle."

      "Worry is the darkroom where negatives are formed."

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        #4
        Originally posted by AngelinaCat View Post
        When I lost my FT job, it certainly made our borderline Ch13 case a Ch7.
        Why are you following me? 'Hub

        (Stalkers are such a bore)
        If I knew it all, would I be here?? Hang in there = Retained attorney 8-06, Filed 12-28-07, Discharge 8-13-08, Finally CLOSED 11-3-09, 3-31-10 AP Dismissed, Informed by incompetent lawyer of CLOSED status, October 14, 2010.

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          #5
          My husband was laid off during the process of getting our things together to file. We were a very borderline CH 7. But, what our attorney told us is that even though unemployed, they still look at the past 6 months income. So, he was laid off in August, and we waited to file in October to let one month of pay fall off. We had a successful 7 and were discharged a few weeks ago.
          Filed CH 7 10/14/09
          341 11/18/09 DONE!
          Discharged 1/19/10!

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            #6
            Now that you are laid off I would put the bankruptcy on hold until you secure new employment. There is no reason I can think of that demands you file sooner rather than later unless you have outstanding judgments.
            Well, I did. Every one of 'em. Mostly I remember the last one. The wild finish. A guy standing on a station platform in the rain with a comical look in his face because his insides have been kicked out. -Rick

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              #7
              Originally posted by OhioFiler View Post
              Now that you are laid off I would put the bankruptcy on hold until you secure new employment. There is no reason I can think of that demands you file sooner rather than later unless you have outstanding judgments.

              +1 Excellent advice.
              Filed CH 7 9/30/2008
              Discharged Jan 5, 2009! Closed Jan 18, 2009

              I am not an attorney. None of my advice is legal advice in any way..

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                #8
                You will probably have to wait a few months b/c the 6 month look back right now would still show you're above median.
                4/09 Converted to a Ch 7 due to loss in dh's income
                5/09 UST now involved no idea what happens next
                7/09 UST has decided to withdraw his motion to dismiss!
                7/27/09 DISCHARGED!!!

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by OhioFiler View Post
                  Now that you are laid off I would put the bankruptcy on hold until you secure new employment. There is no reason I can think of that demands you file sooner rather than later unless you have outstanding judgments.
                  Why do you suggest this? Finding a new job first? Thanks.

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by ApresMoi View Post
                    Why do you suggest this? Finding a new job first? Thanks.
                    You must have a plan for living post-bankruptcy. Relying on unemployment insurance isn't a real healthy plan.
                    Well, I did. Every one of 'em. Mostly I remember the last one. The wild finish. A guy standing on a station platform in the rain with a comical look in his face because his insides have been kicked out. -Rick

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                      #11
                      Your BK gets rid of debt, that's all.

                      You still need to have a reliable, sustainable income to create your new budget and not incur new debt. If you end up going for several months without income it will make filing a Ch 7 that much easier for you - but don't file until you actually have a job.
                      Filed CH 7 9/30/2008
                      Discharged Jan 5, 2009! Closed Jan 18, 2009

                      I am not an attorney. None of my advice is legal advice in any way..

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                        #12
                        So you guys are saying you wouldn't qualify for Chap 7 if you are unemployed? That makes no sense. I'm not saying you are wrong, just that it makes no sense. You would have no DMI.

                        I would agree that you couldn't file Chap 13. Can you provide more insight as to why the BK court would not discharge an unemployed person in a Chap 7.

                        What if she ends up getting a job making just above the median again?
                        Last edited by BCA2009; 01-29-2010, 08:11 AM.
                        Wife Laid off - 11/16/2009 Missed First Payments - 12/5/2009
                        Filed Chap 7 - 12/31/2009
                        341 - 2/12/2010
                        Discharged - 4/19/2010

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                          #13
                          Thanks for all the replies! I have strong confidence I will be employed sooner rather than later, but I do want to take a little time off. However, once I am employed again, I will not be making what I had been making. I don't plan on working for attorneys ANY MORE. Have done that way too long and it's not worth the health risk! I'll probably get into something around the $40K area. Since being let go yesterday, I have not come up with a revised budget, but without the huge credit card payments, I feel confident I can live on a smaller salary, and have a better quality of life.

                          My BK attorney has not responded to my news of not having a job anymore.

                          Thanks all!
                          11/09 FICO - 735 ~ 01/10 FICO 545

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                            #14
                            Originally posted by BCA2009 View Post
                            So you guys are saying you wouldn't qualify for Chap 7 if you are unemployed? That makes no sense. I'm not saying you are wrong, just that it makes no sense. You would have no DMI.

                            I would agree that you couldn't file Chap 13. Can provide more insight as to why the BK court would not discharge an unemployed person in a Chap 7.

                            What is she ends up getting a job making just above the median again?
                            No one said you don't qualify for a C7 if you are unemployed.
                            Well, I did. Every one of 'em. Mostly I remember the last one. The wild finish. A guy standing on a station platform in the rain with a comical look in his face because his insides have been kicked out. -Rick

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                              #15
                              Originally posted by BCA2009 View Post
                              So you guys are saying you wouldn't qualify for Chap 7 if you are unemployed? That makes no sense. I'm not saying you are wrong, just that it makes no sense. You would have no DMI.

                              I would agree that you couldn't file Chap 13. Can provide more insight as to why the BK court would not discharge an unemployed person in a Chap 7.

                              What is she ends up getting a job making just above the median again?
                              You can file and be discharged if you're unemployed. However, being debt-free without a sustainable income and with post-BK bills is challenging for most.

                              The six month look back becomes significant in our OP's situation. The OP was initially over the median. Immediate unemployment doesn't grant the OP C7 status. If the OP doesn't receive income (or only receives unemployment insurance) and time passes, the OP's six month look back will reduce.
                              Last edited by HakunaMatata; 01-29-2010, 08:20 AM.
                              *Filed: September 23, 2009 *341: November 4, 2009 *Discharged: January 4, 2010 *Closed: January 20, 2010

                              Hakuna Matata...it means NO WORRIES!

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