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    Mess Selling Home - Confused. Discharge, Stipulation, Dismissal

    My chapter 7 was discharged in April 2004. I have since learned that when a motion is filed by the Trustee it effectively keeps my BK file open and it does not get dismissed. BK attorney never explained this to me.

    After the April 2004 discharge, family home was quit claimed to me in June 2004. Late June or early July 2004 I received letter from Trustee. Trustee was going to file motion in BK to request repayment of tax refunds. I went to discuss this with BK attorney. I didn't understand, I thought I was discharged. At this meeting I also told him about family home being quit claimed into my name and that I will put it on market. He said nothing. He didn't tell me I had to tell the court or the Trustee. All he said was that he had spoken to Trustee's attorney and they told him that they didn't think Trustee had right to my tax refunds and not to worry he would take care of it. So, naturally when I got a second discharge letter from BK Court reaffirming my April 2004 discharge, I assumed that everything was now clear.

    Again, no one explained that Trustee could keep filing motion to keep my file active.

    I never owned home when I filed my BK. I only took title after I thought my BK was over and to protect family home from brother who has gambling problem. It was always in his name and I never was on title to it until this happened.

    Feb. 2005 I get a buyer for the house and a letter from Trustee saying he will file a motion again. During this time, many things came out during escrow (buyer walked out last Friday.) Title wanted a letter from Trustee saying it was alright to sell, or some sort of payout document. I consulted with the BK attorneys. The result is:

    The BK attorneys advised me to agree to a "stip" with Trustee to repay tax refunds before it goes to court, which I have done. What troubles me is that my BK attorneys do not want the Trustee to know about my having title to the house. They say he can take all proceeds and tie everything up as well as make me repay all my debts that was declared and discharged in BK. Is this true? Makes me uncomfortable that the BK attorneys are telling me to be quiet. I told them I had title to house, I even have a fax which I sent to them which followed up on this conversation. All they have been telling me is that its my fault for not paying the tax refunds.

    I didn't do anything wrong. I thought I was discharged and when a decision had to be made about protecting the family home it was done so that a mentally disabled and blind sister as well as an elderly mother who's had a 5way bypass would have a roof over their heads.

    If the Trustee finds out about the house being in my name and that there will be adequate proceeds to cover the 45K should it sell, will he demand that all my creditors be repaid?

    My sister died last month, I would like to have enough money left to care for my mom at least. It would several years before I could qualify to buy a home, and would like to have savings to build credit back up too.

    I really have lost confidence in my BK attorney and think that they are somehow only protecting their own @ss and not working in my interest. This is the same BK attorneys that did not inform me or advise me about a "motion to discharge or avoid lien" to which they were aware of when I first consulted with them. When I mentioned this to them last week one of the attorney said that "you didn't own anything at the time..." somehow I feel wronged.

    Should I get another offer on the house and I am still making payments through a "stip" versus having it paid off completely, how does that affect the sale does? Does anyone know what will happen in this kind of situation?

    #2
    Just a guess

    From what i was told was i needed to inform the court about everything up to the date i filed. My case Jan 2005. My lawyer said that if i walk out of court and buy the winning lottery ticket it will not be part of the bk. If i buy the ticket on my way to the court house it si part of the bk. You may need to get proof that you are helping your borther (after your bk) and was not a silent parner in the house and just hidding it before the bk.

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      #3
      Sorry, your post is a little long to read at this point. But a discharge is NOT the end of your BK. There is a 1 year period after the discharge where and objection to discharge can be filed. Also, within that 1 year, you have continuing duties to the BK court, i.e. keep the court informed of your address, and supply the trustee with your tax return for the year you filed your BK.

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        #4
        Question to HHM

        I filed in jan 2005 do i understand you right that the trustie could ask for a copy of my taxes for 2005 or just 2004 ?

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          #5
          I intend to make payment to Trustee to satisfy the stipulation agreement to repay my tax refunds. I now understand that even after discharge the Trustee can dispute my discharge and not give me a dismissal. And that it can take up to 1year for a dismissal.

          In the meantime, what happens if I fulfill my stipulation and I have buyer for the house but no dismissal? At this point, will the Trustee make me pay back the creditors the amounts owed, even though it was dishcarged?

          Does it matter to the Trustee or the court the circumstances of how the house came into my name? I did let my BK attorney know about having the title changed into my name, he never said anything, nor did he give me any advice as to what would happen.

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            #6
            Mess Selling Home - Confused. Discharge, Stipulation, Dismissal

            Tax refunds for periods prior to the Bankruptcy filing belong to the Trustee.
            One year after discharge is when a Trustee can no longer ask for a revocation of discharge unless fraud is alleged then he gets a year longer.

            In your case, pay the tax refunds to the Trustee and stay quiet on the house issue if they do not know. It will only complicate matters. Do not sell the house until at least 2 years after you have been discharged. If you can't wait then you will have some explaining to do if the House came into your name within 180 days of your initial filing date.
            REGORd

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