Unemployment extensions - 99ers - Any Updates?

[tobee43]

Discouraged, I am as sympathetic to your plight as I can be. No one deserves to have this happen to them. But the kinds of jobs at the kinds at the kinds of salaries you are accustomed to are gone. They're not coming back. Not in your working lifetime anyway. The few jobs with the type of work and the level of salary you're holding out for are going to go to younger people. That's not pleasant; that's not fair, but it is, a fact. Standards of living in this country are going to go down. You're just happen to be on the leading edge of what is coming for the country as a whole.

Unemployment compensation is going to end. It won't be allowed to go on forever because the money just isn't there. Get your mind around that and start doing now what you will have to do when it does end. Because when it ends -- and it will end -- there are going to be a lot of people competing for those same part-time jobs like the ones you turned down.

Working, doing something, no matter how beneath your skill level it may be, will work wonders for your state-of-mind.

i know for us, we understand a bit about what's it's like to re-adjust one's life style. and, for us, it's really just not as much with a conflict with working beneath one's skill level, as it is, that, how can someone buy a gallon of gas at $4 a gallon when one is making less than $8 an hour. how can one eat when chopped meant is $3.99 a pound on minimum wage?

it's extremely frightening. and, for many of us that have had to "downsize" considerably it's not so much about the dignity...or losing ones pride, it's a simply a matter of not be able to survive. for many, we will see the welfare roles increase...food stamps usage will go up as well. states and the federal government will have to move on medical care for not just the young, and old, but the "lost" middle class that found themselves out on their butts. sad as it is, it's a reality we all need to deal with.

i know here, i know there are NO jobs, florida is still standing still at approx. 12% unemployment. there is simply no place to go...no walmarts, no burger flipping...nothing..

[MSbklawyer]

I am seeing more postings - and applying for everyone I see. I even had a telephone interview this week. Haven't heard back so don't know what will happen but it is the first hint of anyone viewing my application in a long, long time. And, OhioFiler, the difference in a high school young person and a 57 year old professional woman are pretty extreme. I didi have 2 'opportunities' that I could have pursued I suppose. They were both part time. One wanted a person for 12 hrs a week - 3 hours a day, which would not support me and the other was going to go 20 hrs a week but the pay was less than I was making when I was 20. Again, this would not support me..

Discouraged, I am as sympathetic to your plight as I can be. No one deserves to have this happen to them. But the kinds of jobs at the kinds at the kinds of salaries you are accustomed to are gone. They're not coming back. Not in your working lifetime anyway. The few jobs with the type of work and the level of salary you're holding out for are going to go to younger people. That's not pleasant; that's not fair, but it is, a fact. Standards of living in this country are going to go down. You're just happen to be on the leading edge of what is coming for the country as a whole.

Unemployment compensation is going to end. It won't be allowed to go on forever because the money just isn't there. Get your mind around that and start doing now what you will have to do when it does end. Because when it ends -- and it will end -- there are going to be a lot of people competing for those same part-time jobs like the ones you turned down.

Working, doing something, no matter how beneath your skill level it may be, will work wonders for your state-of-mind.

[tobee43]

Get off your high horse and answer the question.

WHY DID YOU FILE BANKRUPTCY INSTEAD OF SEEKING A DIFFERENT SOURCE OF INCOME?

Don't dodge.

Answer the question.

exactly....

[tobee43]

Thanks, houston7. Wow - OhioFiler really seems to have it in for anyone who cannot find a job! Don't understand the reasoning behind that or what the problem is, but, here in MN, in a large city with numerous colleges, the younger folks are getting the jobs. I purposely took the two temp positions doing data entry to show prospective employers that it was a job I could and would do. My resume prior to these positions was working in a highly professional field as an Executive Assistant and I think the title and the salary scared off employers.

I really don't care what it is I do for work, as long as it is able to allow me to survive. I only have 5-10 years to work and that is nothing. The time will fly fast I am sure. And I have learned to live very frugally since receiving unemployment, which is slightly less than 1/2 of what I was making. But - due to the competition, it is hard. I would even have taken the lower paying data entry position if it would have been full time, although it was also so far away that gas alone may have made it unrealistic and there was no bus transportation to the company.

That is another thing I have to take into consideration. My car is old (1992) and I have no idea how long it will last. I obviously can't afford to buy a new one on what I receive from unemployment so any position I take has to be close to a bus route. Sometimes I wish I would have known I was going to be laid off and maybe I would have gotten a newer car and quit paying my mortgage a lot sooner than I did. Unfortunately, I had no idea unemployment was in the cards. I knew the company was having problems but not to the extreme it proved to be so I was unprepared for a lay-off.

don't let that get to you for one moment!!!!!!!!!!! you have been through so much!!!

there are just people that LOVE to kick people when they are down and have NO clue...just hit the "ignore" button...really. some just love to get a raise and hurt people because they have no clue or life experience, are nasty and enjoy people's misery...it's just life..

you will be fine, i know it! anyone that has read your posts or your threads know who you are and what an excellent human being you are. (so rare!)

[tobee43]

I am seeing more postings - and applying for everyone I see. I even had a telephone interview this week. Haven't heard back so don't know what will happen but it is the first hint of anyone viewing my application in a long, long time. And, OhioFiler, the difference in a high school young person and a 57 year old professional woman are pretty extreme. I Didi have 2 'opportunities' that I could have pursued I suppose. They were both part time. One wanted a person for 12 hrs a week - 3 hours a day, which would not support me and the other was going to go 20 hrs a week but the pay was less than I was making when I was 20. Again, this would not support me.

I'm very willing to work for a lower salary than I was making. With the new start (once my bk is done) my expenses will be limited to housing, utilities, food and car expense (gas, insurance, upkeep etc). But, I have to be realistic and can't afford to take a part time job. Now, if I could have worked with either company to change hours so I could have done both jobs, it might have worked but neither were willing to change the hours so I couldn't do it.

And yes, when I was in high school I was offered 2 jobs also. Of course, I didn't make much and I had to work part time so I could continue going to school, but they were there then as you just proved they are there now.

The analogy doesn't quite measure up. Sorry.

i so agree...and while it's so easy for some to speak from the outside in.....i know you, and you are so brilliant and can do ANYTHING.....but we both know;

age factors, demographics, work history....(too much experience)...are all deterrent's in this employment environment.

no one wants the "older" more experience workers when they can get a young college grad for 1/4 of the salary. and, it's not a matter of downsizing, as both you and i know. shoot, i think if you and i downsized more, we'd both be living in card board boxes..

we have had it tough, many of the less life experience people don't get that well,...not really NOT at all... not that that is their fault, it's just what one learns with the passing of time and experience...life experience that is, NOT education, necesarry...(now, how many degrees to i have?).

so, for us, we are the lost generation of this mess, as far, as i can see and feel...but we will make it!

[discouraged]

Thanks, houston7. Wow - OhioFiler really seems to have it in for anyone who cannot find a job! Don't understand the reasoning behind that or what the problem is, but, here in MN, in a large city with numerous colleges, the younger folks are getting the jobs. I purposely took the two temp positions doing data entry to show prospective employers that it was a job I could and would do. My resume prior to these positions was working in a highly professional field as an Executive Assistant and I think the title and the salary scared off employers.

I really don't care what it is I do for work, as long as it is able to allow me to survive. I only have 5-10 years to work and that is nothing. The time will fly fast I am sure. And I have learned to live very frugally since receiving unemployment, which is slightly less than 1/2 of what I was making. But - due to the competition, it is hard. I would even have taken the lower paying data entry position if it would have been full time, although it was also so far away that gas alone may have made it unrealistic and there was no bus transportation to the company.

That is another thing I have to take into consideration. My car is old (1992) and I have no idea how long it will last. I obviously can't afford to buy a new one on what I receive from unemployment so any position I take has to be close to a bus route. Sometimes I wish I would have known I was going to be laid off and maybe I would have gotten a newer car and quit paying my mortgage a lot sooner than I did. Unfortunately, I had no idea unemployment was in the cards. I knew the company was having problems but not to the extreme it proved to be so I was unprepared for a lay-off.

[houston7]

Unemployment insurance is a crutch and many people learn to live on it so long as they can receive it. That does not include everyone. However, endless monthly payments from the government regardless what we label it are welfare payments. The only obvious difference from traditional welfare is unemployment payments are directed to people who would be considered middle class by most definitions. Many in this group want to resist the label of "welfare recipient" as the term has a negative connotation historically. I don't use it in a negative way here, simply factually.

Congress spent nearly $1,000,000,000 on a so called stimulus plan designed to create jobs. It failed because government can't create jobs outside itself (i.e hire more bureaucrats). It is the private sector who create jobs. Whether one likes wealthy people or large corporations the truth is these are the job creators along with the small business owner. Relying on the government to solve this problem is creating an unsustainable debt load with nearly zero tangible results.

I wish you well on your job search.

You mean a crutch, like, oh I don't know..... Filing bankruptcy?

[houston7]

Thank you. Since you see me in a glass house when did I file bankruptcy?

Why don't you debate my amateur psychoanalysis rather than throw out nonsense?

Get off your high horse and answer the question.

WHY DID YOU FILE BANKRUPTCY INSTEAD OF SEEKING A DIFFERENT SOURCE OF INCOME?

Don't dodge.

Answer the question.

[helpme2010]

Well the analogy does add up. There are jobs out there. Lots of them. Probably not the exact job we all want.

I had to recently look for a new job. It's scary but an open mind and positive attitude with a strong support system helps a lot.

I would offer to you perhaps you should change your screen name. I believe a positive attitude makes a huge difference when one is challenged. Rather than feel discouraged you might want to feel empowered! All the best to you!

ohioflyer, I understand being open to a lower paying job and going out of the comfort zone, including jobs in areas I am not familiar with. I have done this with many job types and in many industries. But we have to be somewhat realistic on planet Earth and not tell someone to just go pick lettuce, work at Walmart, Burger King, or stand on the corner dancing with a sign in our hands.

Someone that is a professional, that holds a degree, or has spent over a dozen years learning and putting in the blood, sweat, and tears to be a professional in the business world, deserves at least a lower paying job in the professional industry. You can't tell someone who regularly earns 40k, 50k, 60k, 70k, 80k, 90k, 100k, to compete against the illegal alient and go pick lettuce in the fields or to compete against the high-schooler as a newspaper delivery boy riding a BMX dirt bike at 40 or 50 years old.

This type of statement goes so far out of the bounds of reality, that its frightening. Hey I would love to put on my resume that I picked lettuce and worked at McDonalds for the past 6 months. Guess how many professional companies would call me up for an interview - ZERO. Consulting has made a difference between having no job and getting no calls and having a job and getting calls. McDonalds would flag every employer down as this person does not have the quality to be hired for a professional position, that is why nobody but McDonalds hired him.

[helpme2010]

After working my way through school 16 years ago (working on average 35 hours a week and going to school full-time), I earned an Associates Degree. For the past 16 years, I've used that degree working for Civil Engineers as CADD technician. The point of that is not to brag, but to say that I AM NOT AFRAID/UNWILLING to do the work.

I was laid off in December of 2009 having earned upwards of $28 per hour. Now after 15 months of hunting for a job--and applying for everything imaginable--I finally received a job offer. Pending a background check, I will be working as a custodian at the local middle school for $9 per hour. Had it not been for the UE extensions, I would have been left unable to:

• Buy gas to enable me to hunt for a job--and every employer I talked to wanted to know that I'd have reliable transportation.
• Pay for medical needs--I am diabetic and have high blood pressure
• Buy food to eat (survive)

I find the notion that I didn't need/deserve those UE benefits to be offensive and hold no ill will for those who continue to collect it even after I no longer do.

If we were in a "normal" economy, I would whole-heartedly agree that these UE extensions were not needed and would have likened it to welfare. But this is a serious recession and until new jobs are created and the job market can support putting these people back to work, the extensions need to continue.

When I went on UE, my GROSS income was less than my previous NET income. Now with this new job, my income will be less than HALF of my income on UE. So please don't try and suggest I was "holding out" for the best.

Doni, I understand your post and agree with you. I make a 1/4 of my income on unemployment benefits, so it's really the only thing holding me together. One problem with taking that minimum wage job at McDonalds is trying to get back to a normal paying job again. Try setting up an interview with a company when you work full time.

I live in L.A. and it can take 1 to 2 hours to get across SoCal to reach that job. Heavy duty traffic as well.

Every job I have taken asks me what my salary history was and then offers me what a recent job paid me. It is extremely difficult to get them to move higher, especially after taking a lower paying job. They realize they can short change me on their job offer as well, since I show a history of being willing to take the lower job offer.

By holding out for at least the low paying job (not the minimum wage mcdonalds job), I can get a realistic job that will at least pay my bills or not quite pay my bills, but only lose a slight amount each month (and of course no health insurance or anything that remote resembles entertainment expenses). Basically, just working full time from early morning to night to just pay the bills, but not put any money away into a 401k, the bank for a rainy day fund, health care, etc.

So when I lose the next job, it helps that I take the higher job so I can at least build a little cushion for survival.

[doni49]

After working my way through school 16 years ago (working on average 35 hours a week and going to school full-time), I earned an Associates Degree. For the past 16 years, I've used that degree working for Civil Engineers as CADD technician. The point of that is not to brag, but to say that I AM NOT AFRAID/UNWILLING to do the work.

I was laid off in December of 2009 having earned upwards of $28 per hour. Now after 15 months of hunting for a job--and applying for everything imaginable--I finally received a job offer. Pending a background check, I will be working as a custodian at the local middle school for $9 per hour. Had it not been for the UE extensions, I would have been left unable to:

• Buy gas to enable me to hunt for a job--and every employer I talked to wanted to know that I'd have reliable transportation.
• Pay for medical needs--I am diabetic and have high blood pressure
• Buy food to eat (survive)

I find the notion that I didn't need/deserve those UE benefits to be offensive and hold no ill will for those who continue to collect it even after I no longer do.

If we were in a "normal" economy, I would whole-heartedly agree that these UE extensions were not needed and would have likened it to welfare. But this is a serious recession and until new jobs are created and the job market can support putting these people back to work, the extensions need to continue.

When I went on UE, my GROSS income was less than my previous NET income. Now with this new job, my income will be less than HALF of my income on UE. So please don't try and suggest I was "holding out" for the best.

[OhioFiler]

I am seeing more postings - and applying for everyone I see. I even had a telephone interview this week. Haven't heard back so don't know what will happen but it is the first hint of anyone viewing my application in a long, long time. And, OhioFiler, the difference in a high school young person and a 57 year old professional woman are pretty extreme. I didi have 2 'opportunities' that I could have pursued I suppose. They were both part time. One wanted a person for 12 hrs a week - 3 hours a day, which would not support me and the other was going to go 20 hrs a week but the pay was less than I was making when I was 20. Again, this would not support me.

I'm very willing to work for a lower salary than I was making. With the new start (once my bk is done) my expenses will be limited to housing, utilities, food and car expense (gas, insurance, upkeep etc). But, I have to be realistic and can't afford to take a part time job. Now, if I could have worked with either company to change hours so I could have done both jobs, it might have worked but neither were willing to change the hours so I couldn't do it.

And yes, when I was in high school I was offered 2 jobs also. Of course, I didn't make much and I had to work part time so I could continue going to school, but they were there then as you just proved they are there now.

The analagy doesn't quite measure up. Sorry.

Well the analogy does add up. There are jobs out there. Lots of them. Probably not the exact job we all want.

I had to recently look for a new job. It's scary but an open mind and positive attitude with a strong support system helps a lot.

I would offer to you perhaps you should change your screen name. I believe a positive attitude makes a huge difference when one is challenged. Rather than feel discouraged you might want to feel empowered! All the best to you!

[discouraged]

I am seeing more postings - and applying for everyone I see. I even had a telephone interview this week. Haven't heard back so don't know what will happen but it is the first hint of anyone viewing my application in a long, long time. And, OhioFiler, the difference in a high school young person and a 57 year old professional woman are pretty extreme. I didi have 2 'opportunities' that I could have pursued I suppose. They were both part time. One wanted a person for 12 hrs a week - 3 hours a day, which would not support me and the other was going to go 20 hrs a week but the pay was less than I was making when I was 20. Again, this would not support me.

I'm very willing to work for a lower salary than I was making. With the new start (once my bk is done) my expenses will be limited to housing, utilities, food and car expense (gas, insurance, upkeep etc). But, I have to be realistic and can't afford to take a part time job. Now, if I could have worked with either company to change hours so I could have done both jobs, it might have worked but neither were willing to change the hours so I couldn't do it.

And yes, when I was in high school I was offered 2 jobs also. Of course, I didn't make much and I had to work part time so I could continue going to school, but they were there then as you just proved they are there now.

The analagy doesn't quite measure up. Sorry.

[OhioFiler]

If I am blaming anything, it is the economy. I was laid off once before, after 9/11 when donations were down and the organization I worked for had to reduce their workforce. At that time I had a job within a month - even before unemployment kicked in. This time it is true I am older, but that only increases my knowledge and skills. This should not be happening to our nation. Both temp jobs I had were with city & county government and there is a hiring freeze there. And the crack about Burger King was uncalled for.

Apparently you aren't facing this problem but try to have a little understanding and compassion for those of us who are.

I assume the poster meant one needs to take any job to support one's self. I'm not sure it was meant to be a smack. I have a kid in high school who recently received two job offers. There are jobs available. Regardless, best of luck to you.

[OhioFiler]

blame all the illegal aliens for taking all the jobs

Had Americans wanted to do the work the illegal aliens are allegedly doing back when illegals started doing such work the illegals would not be here. America got lazy, fell in love with unions, cushy jobs, 40 hour work weeks and then got fat. Sad but true.