2008 Presidential Election

[Bandit]

I used to be a republican. Bush changed that for me and now I am independent. Won't vote for McCain---his lettuce picking fiasco really chapped my hide.

EP

har! har!

I think bushwacker changed that for everyone, forever.

and the other one, I have heard enough VOTE FOR ME- the conservative jewish christian nation to make me vomit for eternity. That type of thinking is also changing rapidly.

[Bandit]

ya, just who I want in there, someone with an Arab name to run our country.

LOL! if it was not an arab name it would be a china name....everyone is going to be forced to pray to Allah instead of Jesus.

or will the next - next president be a Russian Communist?

[HRx]

ya, just who I want in there, someone with an Arab name to run our country.

Wow an intelligent comment...thank goodness the polls are showing that MANY other Americans are more progressive/forward thinking than you are!

[danaf]

I'm watching the pre-primary rallys tonight and GOD - I cannot stand Hillary and all the BS that comes out of her mouth. She is so full of crap, it just hits you in the face. She's a back-peddler and I don't trust her at all.

I'll keep my fingers crossed until about this time tomorrow night. My prediction though is the votes will be split between Texas and Ohio for Obama and Clinton. My worry is that Obama doesn't do well on the border states - let's hope that Texas changes that.

[Bandit]

I'm watching the pre-primary rallys tonight and GOD - I cannot stand Hillary and all the BS that comes out of her mouth. She is so full of crap, it just hits you in the face. She's a back-peddler and I don't trust her at all.

LOL!

but you trust Obama and all the crap that hits you in the face? and the BS that comes out of his mouth? and you like his backpeddling?

when Michelle speaks, she gives me the same creeps that Hilary does.

It is like, should I choose the antiChrist-Obama or should I choose the devils wife-Clinton. Then I could always choose McCain-son of perdition.

no one gets into the whitehouse as trustworthy.

[Bandit]

I do not agree with the Presidential Primary systems state-by-state. It is so backward.
They should let the candidates run their full course going state to state, then let all the people vote during the same time. You can vote for someone you like if your state goes early, then later you see things you do not like, while the later states can watch the entire campaign before they vote. That is not right.

I also think they should all be allowed a certain amount of money to campaign with & then cap it for them all. When they run out, they run out.

I also do not agree with the type of voting being different from state to state. Closed primary, open primary, semi open, caucus, then Texas votes twice?

The system is twisted.

[HRx]

The comment that Mcain made about Chelsea Clinton a while ago was hilarious I must say... The crap these politicians get caught saying never ceases to amuse me.

[Bandit]

Mike Huckabee walked last night. I still liked his hard ball answer to the evolution question. But honestly, some of the questions they ask have nothing to do with them making a good leader.

[HRx]

Looks like Clinton is catching up to Obama...this race will be a close one. But I think Obama will ultimately pull through though.

[Bandit]

Ok. after watching the news again during a week of nothing but bad news I have concluded that Obamas pastor & the church he attends is very racist. They played two different sermons on the news & that pastor is definately a racist & the congregation all shouting to back him in agreement with the pastor.

If anyone here goes to that church you are free to believe whatever that pastor says, but I am also free to give my opinion on what he says concerning this election & his racist remarks.

It kind of reminded me of that other black radical preacher in PA. Jennings who taped his church smashing the statue of Mary with a hammer.

I know there are many radical christian churches just like this one Not to mention white power, KKK, and all the other charismatic fruit loops on the market.

So Obama goes to this church for 20 years yet declares he is not behind his pastor of 20 years? & never heard racist america hating sermons like that? while the entire church is giving the leader praise through the whole tape?
Yah right!
Sorry, but you do not attend a place for 20 years & not know what the leader of that place is really about... & that old time preacher is a RACIST.

While I agreed with some of what that preacher says, he should have left it outside his sermon, because that is not teaching the people anything but to be racist!
the whole statement of faith is strictly for black people & repeats black community, black people, black value system, black institutions, black this & black that.....through the entire thing

Though I feel more than racism that pastor was trying to persuade peoples votes in the future but he has failed. I am kind of sad because I was in hopes that Obama would really bring some good change but I feel that change is another lie with more dead skeletons & I do not need to believe in more lies. I actually believed in Bush in the beginning as well...& though it took over 7 years for the public to realize how much harm Boosh has done to this country his rating approvals are way down to between 19% & 25%. This video will hurt Obama & Obama admits that it will cause him big problems in winning. However, his actions like most politicans do not back his words to begin with. Preachers should learn from this to let the people in their church decide for themselves who they want to vote for, keep politics out of the church, without the people being brainwashed by religious leaders who scream into microphones...

and of course MCain admits finally to Boosh doing his waterboard torturing and other tortures to POW, yet feels that is the best way to do torture & has no clue when the states lost its way on the matter?

There is no one good left to vote for, again.

[HRx]

Obama is the best thing this country has going for itself right now...is he going to be able to fix ever problem? Absolultely not, and neither will any other candidate. Every candidate has pretty much had someone on his/her team that made/or has some level of "racist"/"prejudice" remarks or comment. The bottom line up front reality of the matter is, we live in a very racist country where whites, blacks, yellows, reds, et cetera experience some very different "lives" every day.

You will hear the same sort of talk in many white, asian, native american, et cetera churches, companies, etc., through out the United States. I also think Obama clearly addressed his level of relationship with the Preacher too. Furthermore, myself and many other whites, blacks, asians, etc strongly believe that Obama is the best/strongest candidate running that can bridge the different races/cultures together they way it should be in order to more effectively, address and resolve the many common "human" problems this country faces day to day.

[Bandit]

I also think Obama clearly addressed his level of relationship with the Preacher too.

& so did his church who is firing back saying that he threw his pastor under the bus. In other words- he is lying to get power.

It is not just a racist thing (which he still has not admitted) on his part- goes way deeper than that...

if he can do that to someone who he is supposed to be so close to for so long, then be prepared to be thrown under the bus as well. You are nothing but a vote to these people & that is IT.

It is not like Obama didn't know his good friend, adopted uncle, mentor, his confidant, the man that inspired his book about his life's story, his 20 year spiritual adviser's.....& now all of the sudden it is like he has to distance himself from the man? to get votes? There is a BIG problem there.

If that preacher can say things like that in public I can only imagine what he & Obama have said about the USA in private.

I admit to being a very stupid man, but I am not that stupid.

[HRx]

What do you think Bush, Clinton, Reagan, and all the other white Presidents have said to in the privacy of thier constiuents, church, et cetera about other races, and cultures? The bottom line up front reality of the matter is, the preacher is the person that owns his the words he spoke, not Obama.

If Obama were an undercover black racist/bigot I think the world would've known by now based on the actions of his politics alone. I'm 100% certain you have white co-workers, associates, or family members that have made bigoted/racist comments about blacks, asians et cetera...but those are thier words. But does that make you a racist? Not necessarsily, unless everyone/someone has heard the same type of talk come out of your very own mouth. You act like Obama is associated with the Black Panthers.

But I will say, this based on some of the past borderline ignorant comments you've already posted about Obama, I wonder if you're as "racist" as Obama's "spirtual advisor"...and no offense...I'm just calling it the way I see it posted.

[Bandit]

But I will say, this based on some of the past borderline ignorant comments you've already posted about Obama, I wonder if you're as "racist" as Obama's "spirtual advisor"

Why dont you address the facts instead of putting members down?
It is not my fault the man you love & adore is a liar & goes to a racist church.

Sorry that your candidate that you praise to the high heavens is a liar, but you should adress the lies & facts instead of trying to make me look bad.
I am not the one running nor the one who goes to a church that is racist & makes hate America statements.

[HRx]

Why dont you address the facts instead of putting members down?
It is not my fault the man you love & adore is a liar & goes to a racist church.

Sorry that your candidate that you praise to the high heavens is a liar, but you should adress the lies & facts instead of trying to make me look bad.
I am not the one running nor the one who goes to a church that is racist & makes hate America statements.

I was not putting you down, and I am addressing the facts/your comments. I simply chose to use one of your past post as an example to show how anyone can interpret your comments as being racist/ignorant, the way you are carrying away accusing Obama as being a racist because of the words of his "spiritual advisor", this frame of thinking doesn't make any sense, especially when Obama doesn't have a track record of being "pro this or pro that"

now you're making unfounded accusations about Obama and his church. His preacher made one comment...I'm sure the church he goes to, which is probably predominatley African American address/discuss social issues that blacks face in America. Have you ever attended an all Hispanic, or Asian church before? Guess what? They discuss issues that are negatively impacting thier ethnic group too. Does that make the church a racist organization? Nope! It's not like they promote hate and seperatism like the KKK, and other white hate groups.

You definately should consider getting your fact straight about Obama and his "hate America" statements/affiliations. Because you're comparing apples and oranges and seem to just want to pull the "reverse racism" card to hastily.