Gaza Strip

[jerzey]

We have so strong minds here

Whats your take on this conflict?

Israel's Land and everyone needs to but out?
Or Israel should give it up for peace reasons?

[AngelinaCatHub]

Israel won the land in a war, gave away enough of it attempting to bribe peace, it has not worked yet, and they keep throwing rockets towards Israel. The people there will only be happy if the last Israelie is dead, then they will fight among themselves. I don't think they should give up one more inch. 'Hub

[jerzey]

Israel won the land in a war, gave away enough of it attempting to bribe peace, it has not worked yet, and they keep throwing rockets towards Israel. The people there will only be happy if the last Israelie is dead, then they will fight among themselves. I don't think they should give up one more inch. 'Hub

agreed

anyone else?

[bmrigs]

Israel won the land in a war, gave away enough of it attempting to bribe peace, it has not worked yet, and they keep throwing rockets towards Israel. The people there will only be happy if the last Israelie is dead, then they will fight among themselves. I don't think they should give up one more inch. 'Hub

First, Israel won the land through terrorist attacks against the British back in the 40's. Second, it was not their land to "give" to Palestinians to bribe peace. Third, every action has a reaction. How much oppression do the Palestinians have to take before they are allowed to defend themselves. Forth, the majority of "Israeli's" that reside there are not true jews but rather zionist ashkenazi claiming to be jews but are not. They are the descendants of the tribe of Khazaria in Southern Russia and they migrated into Europe. Zionism was created by an Ashkenazi jew Herzl. This is a racist political ideology. They believe in the Talmud over the Torah. It is the traditions of their "rabbi's". Some of its verses are full of hatred for gentils and of Mary and Jesus. True jews, those called sephardic jews understand from the Torah that God has punished the Tribe of Israel for its rebelliousness and the consequence of their actions was they are to disperse from the Promised Land until the coming of their Messiah which they believe has not come yet. These true jews know that these ashkenazi jews are frauds and can claim no right to the hold land. They separate themselves from zionism. So having no authentic claim, the state of Israel is illegitamate. These ashkenazi's have forced their will on a people they had no right to do. This is the basics of the situation. The response from Angelina is quite typical from a person who gets their information from the zionist controlled media, churches, and goverments. People need to wake up, turn off the tv and read if they want to get down to the facts of things.

[jerzey]

First, Israel won the land through terrorist attacks against the British back in the 40's. Second, it was not their land to "give" to Palestinians to bribe peace. Third, every action has a reaction. How much oppression do the Palestinians have to take before they are allowed to defend themselves. Forth, the majority of "Israeli's" that reside there are not true jews but rather zionist ashkenazi claiming to be jews but are not. They are the descendants of the tribe of Khazaria in Southern Russia and they migrated into Europe. Zionism was created by an Ashkenazi jew Herzl. This is a racist political ideology. They believe in the Talmud over the Torah. It is the traditions of their "rabbi's". Some of its verses are full of hatred for gentils and of Mary and Jesus. True jews, those called sephardic jews understand from the Torah that God has punished the Tribe of Israel for its rebelliousness and the consequence of their actions was they are to disperse from the Promised Land until the coming of their Messiah which they believe has not come yet. These true jews know that these ashkenazi jews are frauds and can claim no right to the hold land. They separate themselves from zionism. So having no authentic claim, the state of Israel is illegitamate. These ashkenazi's have forced their will on a people they had no right to do. This is the basics of the situation. The response from Angelina is quite typical from a person who gets their information from the zionist controlled media, churches, and goverments. People need to wake up, turn off the tv and read if they want to get down to the facts of things.

Interesting....
I cant comment, not saying you are right or wrong just you knowledge seems very high on this subject compared to mine

and more you would like to say i'd me happy to listen

[Bandit]

We have so strong minds here

Whats your take on this conflict?

Israel's Land and everyone needs to but out?
Or Israel should give it up for peace reasons?

I dont know the answer to that but my take is this,

The entire globe would be a lot safer place without the three hebrew religions because all they do is fight, threaten & kill each other.

[bmrigs]

Interesting....
I cant comment, not saying you are right or wrong just you knowledge seems very high on this subject compared to mine

and more you would like to say i'd me happy to listen

Hey Jerzey

I wont add anymore to this but the foundation is there for people to research this for themselves. I want to state though that Im not religiously motivated to what I wrote. I dont believe in religion. I have just found this board a few days ago and am in probably the same situation as other folks on here. Maybe that was a bad first post but couldnt resist because of strong feelings on the subject.

[jerzey]

I dont know the answer to that but my take is this,

The entire globe would be a lot safer place without the three hebrew religions because all they do is fight, threaten & kill each other.

wow

[AngelinaCatHub]

BMRIGS: You are knowledgeable and without lengthy investigation, so the land did not belong to the British either. Seems to me that the U.N. made up the Nation of Israel. Yes there was war against the British back in 1948, but the fact still remains that the Nation of Israel was either claimed or reclaimed. They turned the desert into a garden respective of what it was and what their neighbors have. They have made efforts to peace and then they got bushwhacked in the six day war that overwhelm the enemy. It was the U.S. that made them stop before they crossed the Suez canal. They too have a right to life. They have given much of the war spoils back. Every time they did, they got screwed. I care not what sect of religion they are as in our own Country, we have many religions. Go to a Muslim Country and attempt to pull a cross out in Public. You may be very sorry if not killed on the spot. The host of this thread asked opinions, I like everyone else have a bellybutton, as well as an opinion. This is mine, but I note yours. ‘Hub

[momof5]

The entire globe would be a lot safer place without the three hebrew religions because all they do is fight, threaten & kill each other.

Sounds like the inner city of the town I live in without the religion. Heck, sounds like mankind.

[bmrigs]

Your logic makes no sense. Suppose a man walks into your house and sits down on your couch and says that it is his right to be there because it "use" to be his but lost it in a foreclosure. So he "reclaimed" it. He then makes "efforts to peace" to convince you that he is in the right. But you resist him by any means necessary but he doesnt leave. Is he right in his actions? Does your resistance make you a terrorist? According to the "Bible" God foreclosed on the Jews and kicked them out of the Holy Land. What if you found out that not only is this man insane to think that he is intitled to your house but you find out that he never lived there to begin with, i.e. ashkenazi's.

[Bandit]

Sounds like the inner city of the town I live in without the religion. Heck, sounds like mankind.

they have religion down there. just ask them what it is & what they are & i bet it will come back as one of the hebrew religions more often than not.

though it is generally a factual history that stems from a structured religion to seize political power through various forms of control. Two beasts instead of one & the one gives power to the other. my opinion.

but while we are on that, let's not leave out the asian forms of communism which have also proven to be quite fatal to mankind.

[Bandit]

Your logic makes no sense. Suppose a man walks into your house and sits down on your couch and says that it is his right to be there because it "use" to be his but lost it in a foreclosure. So he "reclaimed" it. He then makes "efforts to peace" to convince you that he is in the right. But you resist him by any means necessary but he doesnt leave. Is he right in his actions? Does your resistance make you a terrorist? According to the "Bible" God foreclosed on the Jews and kicked them out of the Holy Land. What if you found out that not only is this man insane to think that he is intitled to your house but you find out that he never lived there to begin with, i.e. ashkenazi's.

that is exactly how all three of them think though, with different versions & it depends on whose god is going to win (in their minds). You find the same line of thinking within the RCC & the roman empire for about 1900 years.

Kill them all & let god sort them out.
All three religions think they are entitled while fighting with each other 24/7.

The mind is a very powerful thing but the biggest problem as I see, is people cannot distinguish the difference between fact & faith & they confuse a belief as fact...and we end up with these types of problems.

your scenario is an actual reality.

my two cents

[magyar123]

Let's not forget that Israel was only established in 1948, after an influx of Jews who moved there after WW2 in Europe ended and managed to avoid the death penalties that Germany sentenced them to.

[Bandit]

Hey Hub
I know this one also. Yours is a more tradtional view..if you go against israel then the god goes against you. it is like midevil. I know some Christians who view israel as apostate & they are getting what they deserve, so they have to join the christians if they want war to stop. kind of superstitious in my opinion.

& then of course there is the muslim take which is real nasty as well.
& I know you speak the truth about the arab world as I have followed it very close & the persecution is much like that of the roman empire in its day.