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    Recession: With War or Without It? by Gary North

    The world’s economy has been in growth mode at least since 1991. China has been in growth mode since 1979. The American economy had a sharp recession in 1991. Asia had a financial crisis in 1998. America had a very brief, very shallow recession in 2001. The Federal Reserve System pumped in money at an […]

    Gary North is the author of "Mises on Money." He is also the author of a free 20-volume series, "An Economic Commentary on the Bible."

    #2
    These economic conditions have been planned and are being executed with deliberate and harmful intentions for the peoples of the world. Planned by the real controllers and owners on this earth: The international bankers who control all of the central banks of the world. The Federal Reserve, Bank of England, IMF, World Bank, etc. They are the ones who control currency, issue credit, expand and retract the money supply causing recessions and depressions. Its all about control folks. And they dictate when wars and attacks happen. The world is their chess game and we are their pawns. I believe something awful is going to happen in the near future whether complete economic collapse, nuclear attack, assasination of Obama, terrorist attack, WWIII, etc that will give the final leap to a complete World Goverment with one currency and complete servitude to the Global Elite and their lackeys. Its the classic formula of - problem, reaction, solution. The Global Elite create the crisis, the deluded public react the way that its intended, and the manipulators come in with the solutions to the problems that they themselves created. History is full of these situations. Wake up Sheeple!!!!
    "Paper is poverty,... it is only the ghost of money, and not money itself." --Thomas Jefferson to Edward Carrington, 1788

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      #3
      BMRIGS-This post is for you!

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      And yes bmrigs,
      These economic conditions have been planned and are being executed with deliberate and harmful intentions for the peoples of the world. Planned by the real controllers and owners on this earth: The international bankers who control all of the central banks of the world. The Federal Reserve, Bank of England, IMF, World Bank, etc. They are the ones who control currency, issue credit, expand and retract the money supply causing recessions and depressions. Its all about control folks. And they dictate when wars and attacks happen. The world is their chess game and we are their pawns. I believe something awful is going to happen in the near future whether complete economic collapse, nuclear attack, assasination of Obama, terrorist attack, WWIII, etc that will give the final leap to a complete World Goverment with one currency and complete servitude to the Global Elite and their lackeys. Its the classic formula of - problem, reaction, solution. The Global Elite create the crisis, the deluded public react the way that its intended, and the manipulators come in with the solutions to the problems that they themselves created. History is full of these situations. Wake up Sheeple!!!!
      , you are correct.

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      and as a child I grew up programed by tv
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      when the man came down on me
      we are gonna take back kontrol
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      what it's gonna take to make us realise that we are not living free
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      they will knock you to your knees
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      you gotta fight to stay free
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      what's it gonna take to make you realise you gotta fight to stay free?"
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      I do not wish this life to pass away
      But life presents such possibilities - Each and every day
      I heard a calling that was right for me
      I prayed for strength for what’s a head of me - Please show me the way

      The sun rose high and burnt the night away
      Who stood before me was my enemy - Don’t tread on me
      He’s come to take away my liberties
      I’d rather die than be a slave to thee - Don’t treat me this way
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      I will survive, and you’ll feel my rage
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      We sacrificed for GOD and country - No more colony
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      This was our price to pay for liberty - Still you hear me say
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      Last edited by BankruptPinoy; 07-13-2008, 10:12 AM.

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        #4
        Listen to Paul Topete from Poker Face talk about the 80% club:


        He says we don't agree on everything, but for the most part if we can put the 20% of things we don't agree on, and just work together, we can take our country back.

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          #5
          oops I forgot this one!
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            #6
            Lots of info you have for me. I do frequent the wilderness site. I have also read Crossing the Rubicon by Michael Ruppert. If you would like to further understand the Federal Reserve and the financial mess we are in get the books: The Creature from Jekyle Island and Web of Debt. To issue and control a nations currency is vital to controlling its people and eroding a nations soverignty. Thanks for the links.
            "Paper is poverty,... it is only the ghost of money, and not money itself." --Thomas Jefferson to Edward Carrington, 1788

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              #7
              Yes we are in trouble, very big trouble. I've been trying to stress the importance of each of us becoming self reliant. We must plan for the future ourselves, the government itself is so screwed up that anyone depending on them for food, health care, energy etc is planning for disaster. Each of us needs to start saving 10% of our income. Trim whatever it takes. I think that it will only get worse.
              May 31st, 2007: Petition Filed by my lawyer
              July 2nd, 2007: 341 Meeting Held
              September 4th, 2007: Discharged and Closed.

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                #8
                Originally posted by JRScott View Post
                Yes we are in trouble, very big trouble. I've been trying to stress the importance of each of us becoming self reliant. We must plan for the future ourselves, the government itself is so screwed up that anyone depending on them for food, health care, energy etc is planning for disaster. Each of us needs to start saving 10% of our income. Trim whatever it takes. I think that it will only get worse.
                There are many that say that it is best to buy gold as security against a complete collapse of the dollar which could be a real possibility. There is no sense in saving a currency that could be virtually worthless such a financial upheaval.
                "Paper is poverty,... it is only the ghost of money, and not money itself." --Thomas Jefferson to Edward Carrington, 1788

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by bmrigs View Post
                  There are many that say that it is best to buy gold as security against a complete collapse of the dollar which could be a real possibility. There is no sense in saving a currency that could be virtually worthless such a financial upheaval.
                  Gold won't help you either. A man can't eat gold or silver. If there is an economic collapse there will be no commodities market to sell it on. So basically it becomes worthless.

                  I'd suggest a year's supply of food on hand too.
                  May 31st, 2007: Petition Filed by my lawyer
                  July 2nd, 2007: 341 Meeting Held
                  September 4th, 2007: Discharged and Closed.

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by JRScott View Post
                    Gold won't help you either. A man can't eat gold or silver. If there is an economic collapse there will be no commodities market to sell it on. So basically it becomes worthless.

                    I'd suggest a year's supply of food on hand too.
                    Yes I meant that besides a supply of food. Gold would be used to jump start the economy. Gold will always hold its worth because of its intrinsnic value. Fiat currency like the Federal Reserve Note will always be worthless because it doesnt have the backing of gold. It is only Americans perception that keeps it afloat. It is no better than Monopoly money. Paper currencies in general are always inflationary and cause greater problems in the economy and in the peoples wealth.
                    "Paper is poverty,... it is only the ghost of money, and not money itself." --Thomas Jefferson to Edward Carrington, 1788

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                      #11
                      Originally posted by bmrigs View Post
                      There are many that say that it is best to buy gold as security against a complete collapse of the dollar which could be a real possibility. There is no sense in saving a currency that could be virtually worthless such a financial upheaval.
                      If I knew it all, would I be here?? Hang in there = Retained attorney 8-06, Filed 12-28-07, Discharge 8-13-08, Finally CLOSED 11-3-09, 3-31-10 AP Dismissed, Informed by incompetent lawyer of CLOSED status, October 14, 2010.

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                        #12
                        Originally posted by bmrigs View Post
                        Yes I meant that besides a supply of food. Gold would be used to jump start the economy. Gold will always hold its worth because of its intrinsnic value. Fiat currency like the Federal Reserve Note will always be worthless because it doesnt have the backing of gold. It is only Americans perception that keeps it afloat. It is no better than Monopoly money. Paper currencies in general are always inflationary and cause greater problems in the economy and in the peoples wealth.
                        Yes 'rigs' I do agree with this also. Bury it don't put it into a safe deposit box that could be confiscated. That is, if you can afford it. But JR is correct, for M O N E Y barter with stuff people will need. TOILET PAPER for chance, but more than that FOOD, and bit of BOOZE in small bottles for those who need to "escape" the pain. (I use it all the time to escape my bk. LOLOLOL). Anyway, you get the picture. 'Hub
                        If I knew it all, would I be here?? Hang in there = Retained attorney 8-06, Filed 12-28-07, Discharge 8-13-08, Finally CLOSED 11-3-09, 3-31-10 AP Dismissed, Informed by incompetent lawyer of CLOSED status, October 14, 2010.

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                          #13
                          Excellent advice AngelinaCatHub. I'm sorry that I haven't called you yet. Thank you so much for your kind words in your message to me.

                          Bury it don't put it into a safe deposit box that could be confiscated. That is, if you can afford it. But JR is correct, for M O N E Y barter with stuff people will need. TOILET PAPER for chance, but more than that FOOD, and bit of BOOZE in small bottles for those who need to "escape" the pain.

                          Real wealth is in what do YOU USE right now to get by???? Purchase a lot of it. Coffee, canned beans, dried rice, stuff like this. NOT only can you use them IF NOTHING AT ALL HAPPENS, but at today’s price not what is in the future. You can also barter for this. How in hell would you purchase from you neighbor a three pound can of coffee with a gram of Swiss solid gold you paid 50 bucks for? Cut it into a sliver? And then, what would the neighbor do with a sliver of gold? It won’t work. The best bet is a fine 22 rifle, and lots of long rifle hollow point ammunition. This will kill a squirrel that you HAVE to get a taste for, or a man who wants what you have.

                          Things like fishing hooks, line, tools and the like will always be good barter. He needs a hook, you need a can of beans, trade happy, and when he catches fish, you shoot squirrel, and both share. If you think this foolish, best look at history. Our troops are trained to eat grubs and certain plants. They are force to do this in BT. When you are hungry enough, you will eat anything. Trust me, I have been there in my very young days.

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                            #14
                            Originally posted by JRScott View Post
                            Yes we are in trouble, very big trouble. I've been trying to stress the importance of each of us becoming self reliant. We must plan for the future ourselves, the government itself is so screwed up that anyone depending on them for food, health care, energy etc is planning for disaster. Each of us needs to start saving 10% of our income. Trim whatever it takes. I think that it will only get worse.

                            The fear of what is coming is part of the reason we are filing we need to be prepared for our changing world. I am now working on stock piling food as best we can right now. We planted a garden, and I planned on freezing but what if we lose electric?

                            We have a fireplace and access to wood, we won't freeze in the winter, many of our neighbors don't have this.

                            We will start saving soon, we talked about it tonight. We are outdoors people and DH knows how to hunt. I hate thinking this way, but how can a rational person not be worried? Times are changing and it's best we all realize it and get prepared.

                            Anyone who doesn't see it can't be living in reality, those will be left behind.
                            Last edited by justplaintired; 07-13-2008, 06:03 PM.
                            Filed Chapter 7 June 4 ~ 341 July 20 ~Last day of objections Sept 18~Discharged/Closed Sept 21

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                              #15
                              Any streams? You can use them to keep food cold for short periods.

                              Canning might be what you are looking for, rather than freezing your garden crops, canning them might be a better option.

                              I agree we all need to start planning.
                              May 31st, 2007: Petition Filed by my lawyer
                              July 2nd, 2007: 341 Meeting Held
                              September 4th, 2007: Discharged and Closed.

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