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    "There are none more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free". Voltaire

    Those words are still true to this day. Many Americans feel their Constitution protects them from tyranny of goverment. But slowly over the decades there has been executive orders that have quietly been established by Presidents that could be used to eradicate peoples freedoms permantely in a "national security crisis". People laugh when I tell them that a govt could displace and relocate citizens at will if they see fit. That this country could be governed by a dictatorship by the executive branch is no folly. Read these executive orders and contemplate:

    Executive Order 10995 provides for the takeover of the communications media.

    Executive Order 10997 provides for the takeover of all electric, power, petroleum, gas, fuels, and minerals.

    Executive Order 10988 provides for the takeover of food resources and farms.

    Executive Order 10999 provides for the takeover of all modes of transportation, control of highways, seaports, etc.

    Executive Order 11000 provides for mobilization of all civilians into work brigades under the Government supervision.

    Executive Order 11001 provides for Government takeover of all health, education and welfare functions.

    Executive Order 11002 designates the Postmaster General to operate a national registration of all persons.

    Executive Order 11003 provides for the Government to take over airports and aircraft.

    Executive Order 11004 provides for the Housing and Finance Authority to relocate communities, designate areas to be abandoned, and establish new locations for populations.

    Executive Order 11005 provides for the Government to take over railroads, inland waterways, and public storage facilities.

    All these above Executive Orders were combined into one huge Executive Order which allows all these power seizures to take place if the President declares a national emergency.

    President Carter combined all these seizure authorizations into one Executive Order, #11490, and signed into "law" on July 20, 1979.
    "Paper is poverty,... it is only the ghost of money, and not money itself." --Thomas Jefferson to Edward Carrington, 1788

    #2
    I like your sig bmrigs .

    John Adams, George Washington, Thomas Jefferson, etc were all so much wiser and smarter than the politicians of today.
    May 31st, 2007: Petition Filed by my lawyer
    July 2nd, 2007: 341 Meeting Held
    September 4th, 2007: Discharged and Closed.

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      #3
      Originally posted by JRScott View Post
      I like your sig bmrigs .

      John Adams, George Washington, Thomas Jefferson, etc were all so much wiser and smarter than the politicians of today.
      Your right JRScott. It was unique in history to have these minds come together like it did. They were men of reason and free thinking who didnt have the distractions of "reality tv", sports, and so forth that we do today.
      "Paper is poverty,... it is only the ghost of money, and not money itself." --Thomas Jefferson to Edward Carrington, 1788

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        #4
        I can only say: WOW on all the above. True for sure. 'Hub
        If I knew it all, would I be here?? Hang in there = Retained attorney 8-06, Filed 12-28-07, Discharge 8-13-08, Finally CLOSED 11-3-09, 3-31-10 AP Dismissed, Informed by incompetent lawyer of CLOSED status, October 14, 2010.

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          #5
          Originally posted by JRScott View Post
          I like your sig bmrigs .

          John Adams, George Washington, Thomas Jefferson, etc were all so much wiser and smarter than the politicians of today.
          JRScott, I have been telling hubby for years that these presidents of the past, are rolling in their graves by the way that the government is run today. Its a shame really.

          Chrissy
          Mom2one aka Chrissy Chapter 13
          Filed 11/08~341 1/15/09~ confirmed 2/27/09
          Wonderful Attorney! Just trying to get through the 5 years!!

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            #6
            Originally posted by Mom2one View Post
            JRScott, I have been telling hubby for years that these presidents of the past, are rolling in their graves by the way that the government is run today. Its a shame really.

            Chrissy
            They probably weep when they look down from Heaven and see what has become of this great nation.
            May 31st, 2007: Petition Filed by my lawyer
            July 2nd, 2007: 341 Meeting Held
            September 4th, 2007: Discharged and Closed.

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              #7
              Originally posted by JRScott View Post
              They probably weep when they look down from Heaven and see what has become of this great nation.
              Yeah I do agree. Wonder if they meet up with Bush and others like him someday and want them to explain their actions, oh yeah they won't be up there with the rest of us will they?
              Filed Chapter 7 June 4 ~ 341 July 20 ~Last day of objections Sept 18~Discharged/Closed Sept 21

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                #8
                From about Woodrow Wilson on I think are a big disappointment both Republicans and Democrats.
                May 31st, 2007: Petition Filed by my lawyer
                July 2nd, 2007: 341 Meeting Held
                September 4th, 2007: Discharged and Closed.

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by JRScott View Post
                  From about Woodrow Wilson on I think are a big disappointment both Republicans and Democrats.
                  Woodrow Wilson had the unfortunate legacy of signing into law the Federal Reserve Act. Yes, I do believe most of the Presidents of the 20th century were bad. The worst President, I believe, was Abraham Lincoln. He abused his political power, was responsible for the war crimes against the South, and was never really in favor of freeing slaves until it was politically necessary to do so. Alot of misconceptions surround him.
                  "Paper is poverty,... it is only the ghost of money, and not money itself." --Thomas Jefferson to Edward Carrington, 1788

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                    #10
                    Lincoln was probably one of the first to issue unconstitutional orders and executive orders in violation of the constitution of that there is little doubt.

                    The south would have abolished slavery within 10 years without the civil war. It was becoming to costly.
                    May 31st, 2007: Petition Filed by my lawyer
                    July 2nd, 2007: 341 Meeting Held
                    September 4th, 2007: Discharged and Closed.

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                      #11
                      Originally posted by JRScott View Post
                      Lincoln was probably one of the first to issue unconstitutional orders and executive orders in violation of the constitution of that there is little doubt.

                      The south would have abolished slavery within 10 years without the civil war. It was becoming to costly.
                      Yes your right the South was looking for a way to free slaves that would make them independent and self sufficient rather than the way the North did it- just give them freedom without a way for them to help themselves. The North never kept their promise of "40 acres and a mule" to the slaves. Its all bs. The North were just as involved in the slave trade as the South. Lincoln was trying to persuade black leaders to encourage them and their people to migrate back to Liberia or part of the Carribean after the Civil War. Never has a president abused his executive powers and perverted the spirit and intent of the Constituion. And yet there is a big memorial of him in Washington. He is the champion of big centralized govt.
                      "Paper is poverty,... it is only the ghost of money, and not money itself." --Thomas Jefferson to Edward Carrington, 1788

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                        #12
                        So sad but true.

                        Lincoln freed the slaves because they were the labor force in the south fueling the economy, therefore, allowing the south to continue fighting the war.

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                          #13
                          Originally posted by bmrigs View Post
                          "There are none more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free". Voltaire

                          Those words are still true to this day. Many Americans feel their Constitution protects them from tyranny of goverment. But slowly over the decades there has been executive orders that have quietly been established by Presidents that could be used to eradicate peoples freedoms permantely in a "national security crisis". People laugh when I tell them that a govt could displace and relocate citizens at will if they see fit. That this country could be governed by a dictatorship by the executive branch is no folly. Read these executive orders and contemplate:

                          Executive Order 10995 provides for the takeover of the communications media.

                          Executive Order 10997 provides for the takeover of all electric, power, petroleum, gas, fuels, and minerals.

                          Executive Order 10988 provides for the takeover of food resources and farms.

                          Executive Order 10999 provides for the takeover of all modes of transportation, control of highways, seaports, etc.

                          Executive Order 11000 provides for mobilization of all civilians into work brigades under the Government supervision.

                          Executive Order 11001 provides for Government takeover of all health, education and welfare functions.

                          Executive Order 11002 designates the Postmaster General to operate a national registration of all persons.

                          Executive Order 11003 provides for the Government to take over airports and aircraft.

                          Executive Order 11004 provides for the Housing and Finance Authority to relocate communities, designate areas to be abandoned, and establish new locations for populations.

                          Executive Order 11005 provides for the Government to take over railroads, inland waterways, and public storage facilities.

                          All these above Executive Orders were combined into one huge Executive Order which allows all these power seizures to take place if the President declares a national emergency.

                          President Carter combined all these seizure authorizations into one Executive Order, #11490, and signed into "law" on July 20, 1979.
                          I have been reluctant to post on this because I was honestly not fully aware of all those things. I liked JImmy Carter in his own stupid way & just for being a peaceful man who I still feel had a heartbeat for America, but after seeing him do that, I just lost my respect for him too. It is as if these people need something to do when in office to make it look like they are doing something while all along taking our freedoms & setting us up like the 3rd world. They have done everything, EVERYTHING to over ride the constitution & the (we) stupid public keep voting these republican & democrat freaks into office as if they are helping us.

                          Now we just need to take Executive Order, #11490, and throw it in the garbage & put the constituion back on the table.

                          I have talked with a lot of arabs over the years & never fully understood what they were trying to say about Americans not having the freedom we think we do...as (like a moron) I tried explaining the constitution to them.

                          My question is, who is the Darth Vader behind these politicians?

                          I will wager to bet that at least half of americans, voters & non voters do not have clue about any of this & Sbush has hit upon every one of those orders at various times trying to use them as a dicKtator. His war stacked from the very beginning gives him access to all of that...

                          They have already taken over all food & farm animals, (Executive Order 10988 provides for the takeover of food resources and farms. ) they are working on getting seed out of the publics hand as well...& call this safety...& people believe it.

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                            #14
                            Originally posted by Bandit View Post
                            I have been reluctant to post on this because I was honestly not fully aware of all those things. I liked JImmy Carter in his own stupid way & just for being a peaceful man who I still feel had a heartbeat for America, but after seeing him do that, I just lost my respect for him too. It is as if these people need something to do when in office to make it look like they are doing something while all along taking our freedoms & setting us up like the 3rd world. They have done everything, EVERYTHING to over ride the constitution & the (we) stupid public keep voting these republican & democrat freaks into office as if they are helping us.

                            Now we just need to take Executive Order, #11490, and throw it in the garbage & put the constituion back on the table.

                            I have talked with a lot of arabs over the years & never fully understood what they were trying to say about Americans not having the freedom we think we do...as (like a moron) I tried explaining the constitution to them.

                            My question is, who is the Darth Vader behind these politicians?

                            I will wager to bet that at least half of americans, voters & non voters do not have clue about any of this & Sbush has hit upon every one of those orders at various times trying to use them as a dicKtator. His war stacked from the very beginning gives him access to all of that...

                            They have already taken over all food & farm animals, (Executive Order 10988 provides for the takeover of food resources and farms. ) they are working on getting seed out of the publics hand as well...& call this safety...& people believe it.

                            You know, those big time food corporations are working on taking control of the seeds so the Global Elite can create and control world famines, who gets to eat and who doesnt. You dont want to play our game then we will starve you into submission.
                            "Paper is poverty,... it is only the ghost of money, and not money itself." --Thomas Jefferson to Edward Carrington, 1788

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