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    Hey, lets talk only politics and world problems here.

    Go for it
    If I knew it all, would I be here?? Hang in there = Retained attorney 8-06, Filed 12-28-07, Discharge 8-13-08, Finally CLOSED 11-3-09, 3-31-10 AP Dismissed, Informed by incompetent lawyer of CLOSED status, October 14, 2010.

    #2
    "Paper is poverty,... it is only the ghost of money, and not money itself." --Thomas Jefferson to Edward Carrington, 1788

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      #3
      Cali wrote: I can't believe how insensitive you are. Your life must be full of joy.

      Why am I insensitive when I try to show you that there are innocent civilians that are dying and being mamed for wars that should never have been fought. Are you sensitive to these peoples? Or is it that American lives are more precious because they are of a different race or worship a different God? How about the torture that goes on in Guantonimo to SUSPECTS, not even people who are confirmed enemies, some of them being innocent buy have to live under those conditions. But Im insensitive because I think of others and their suffering. I cringe when I watched the news and US soldiers are dying. For what? For who? Who benefits?
      "Paper is poverty,... it is only the ghost of money, and not money itself." --Thomas Jefferson to Edward Carrington, 1788

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        #4
        OK - which one was a bigger crook - Nixon or this Bush??

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          #5
          Originally posted by magyar123 View Post
          OK - which one was a bigger crook - Nixon or this Bush??
          Both were puppets that did what they were told by those behind the scenes.
          "Paper is poverty,... it is only the ghost of money, and not money itself." --Thomas Jefferson to Edward Carrington, 1788

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            #6
            hey bmrigs,

            sadly, unless a war is fought on someones own soil, most people do not care if others die. The soldiers will care & their parents will care but in general americans dont have a clue.

            There is someone at work who wanted to know why we cared about the war & would have it on TV sometimes. I told her because thousands of innocent people are dying over the greedy of a few.

            Her reply was, "who cares, that is over there, not here."


            Originally posted by bmrigs View Post
            Who benefits?
            in this particular war, only the few who have their dirty hands in the oil buisness.

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              #7
              Originally posted by magyar123 View Post
              OK - which one was a bigger crook - Nixon or this Bush??
              Spush.

              He is the most unpopular, the biggest failure, & also the biggest liar as he stacked his whole administration against the USA & the entire world for his own personal vendetta.

              Nixon comes in second.

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                #8
                Originally posted by Bandit View Post
                hey bmrigs,

                sadly, unless a war is fought on someones own soil, most people do not care if others die. The soldiers will care & their parents will care but in general americans dont have a clue.

                There is someone at work who wanted to know why we cared about the war & would have it on TV sometimes. I told her because thousands of innocent people are dying over the greedy of a few.

                Her reply was, "who cares, that is over there, not here."




                in this particular war, only the few who have their dirty hands in the oil buisness.

                Yeah, I get this response also when the US face resistance of anykind over there. "We should just nuke the whole Middle East" How do Americans expect sympathy when they show apathy????????
                "Paper is poverty,... it is only the ghost of money, and not money itself." --Thomas Jefferson to Edward Carrington, 1788

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                  #9
                  EDWIN STARR lyrics - War

                  War, huh, yeah
                  What is it good for
                  Absolutely nothing
                  Uh-huh
                  War, huh, yeah
                  What is it good for
                  Absolutely nothing
                  Say it again, y'all

                  War, huh, good God
                  What is it good for
                  Absolutely nothing
                  Listen to me

                  Ohhh, war, I despise
                  Because it means destruction
                  Of innocent lives

                  War means tears
                  To thousands of mothers eyes
                  When their sons go to fight
                  And lose their lives

                  I said, war, huh
                  Good God, y'all
                  What is it good for
                  Absolutely nothing
                  Say it again

                  War, whoa, Lord
                  What is it good for
                  Absolutely nothing
                  Listen to me

                  War, it ain't nothing
                  But a heartbreaker
                  War, friend only to the undertaker
                  Ooooh, war
                  It's an enemy to all mankind
                  The point of war blows my mind
                  War has caused unrest
                  Within the younger generation
                  Induction then destruction
                  Who wants to die
                  Aaaaah, war-huh
                  Good God y'all
                  What is it good for
                  Absolutely nothing
                  Say it, say it, say it
                  War, huh
                  What is it good for
                  Absolutely nothing
                  Listen to me

                  War, huh, yeah
                  What is it good for
                  Absolutely nothing
                  Uh-huh
                  War, huh, yeah
                  What is it good for
                  Absolutely nothing
                  Say it again y'all
                  War, huh, good God
                  What is it good for
                  Absolutely nothing
                  Listen to me

                  War, it ain't nothing but a heartbreaker
                  War, it's got one friend
                  That's the undertaker
                  Ooooh, war, has shattered
                  Many a young mans dreams
                  Made him disabled, bitter and mean
                  Life is much to short and precious
                  To spend fighting wars these days
                  War can't give life
                  It can only take it away

                  Ooooh, war, huh
                  Good God y'all
                  What is it good for
                  Absolutely nothing
                  Say it again

                  War, whoa, Lord
                  What is it good for
                  Absolutely nothing
                  Listen to me

                  War, it ain't nothing but a heartbreaker
                  War, friend only to the undertaker
                  Peace, love and understanding
                  Tell me, is there no place for them today
                  They say we must fight to keep our freedom
                  But Lord knows there's got to be a better way

                  Ooooooh, war, huh
                  Good God y'all
                  What is it good for
                  You tell me
                  Say it, say it, say it, say it

                  War, huh
                  Good God y'all
                  What is it good for
                  Stand up and shout it
                  Nothing

                  War - Edwin Starr


                  Here are 3 truths.

                  The official version of the "Civil War", which by the way was not a civil war, is a lie.

                  The official version of WW2 is a lie.

                  The official version of the reason for the War on Terror and 9/11 is a lie.

                  Get Up Stand Up - Bob Marley-(Impeach Bush & Cheney)


                  Get up, stand up: stand up for your rights!
                  Get up, stand up: stand up for your rights!
                  Get up, stand up: stand up for your rights!
                  Get up, stand up: dont give up the fight!

                  Preacherman, dont tell me,
                  Heaven is under the earth.
                  I know you dont know
                  What life is really worth.
                  Its not all that glitters is gold;
                  alf the story has never been told:
                  So now you see the light, eh!
                  Stand up for your rights. come on!

                  Get up, stand up: stand up for your rights!
                  Get up, stand up: dont give up the fight!
                  Get up, stand up: stand up for your rights!
                  Get up, stand up: dont give up the fight!

                  Most people think,
                  Great God will come from the skies,
                  Take away everything
                  And make everybody feel high.
                  But if you know what life is worth,
                  You will look for yours on earth:
                  And now you see the light,
                  You stand up for your rights. jah!

                  Get up, stand up! (jah, jah!)
                  Stand up for your rights! (oh-hoo!)
                  Get up, stand up! (get up, stand up!)
                  Dont give up the fight! (life is your right!)
                  Get up, stand up! (so we cant give up the fight!)
                  Stand up for your rights! (lord, lord!)
                  Get up, stand up! (keep on struggling on!)
                  Dont give up the fight! (yeah!)

                  We sick an tired of-a your ism-skism game -
                  Dyin n goin to heaven in-a jesus name, lord.
                  We know when we understand:
                  Almighty God is a living man.
                  You can fool some people sometimes,
                  But you cant fool all the people all the time.
                  So now we see the light (what you gonna do? ),
                  We gonna stand up for our rights! (yeah, yeah, yeah!)

                  So you better:
                  Get up, stand up! (in the morning! git it up!)
                  Stand up for your rights! (stand up for our rights!)
                  Get up, stand up!
                  Dont give up the fight! (dont give it up, dont give it up!)
                  Get up, stand up! (get up, stand up!)
                  Stand up for your rights! (get up, stand up!)
                  Get up, stand up! ( ... )
                  Dont give up the fight! (get up, stand up!)
                  Get up, stand up! ( ... )
                  Stand up for your rights!
                  Get up, stand up!
                  Dont give up the fight!

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                    #10
                    Kontrol

                    Control By Poker Face

                    "When I was young my teachers told me that I was free
                    and as a child I grew up programed by tv
                    and as a teenage boy I found out just how free is free
                    I took a toke from some good smoke
                    when the man came down on me
                    we are gonna take back kontrol
                    take it back
                    gonna free our soul
                    gonna take kontrol
                    save my soul
                    what it's gonna take to make us realise that we are not living free
                    standing up for rights is only doing whats right
                    they will knock you to your knees
                    whats it gonna take for you to wake up
                    you gotta fight to stay free
                    it only takes a spark to set things off
                    you say you wanna revolution we are gonna take back kontrol
                    take it back
                    take it back
                    gtonna free our soul
                    gonna take kontrol
                    take it back
                    satellites in the skies broadcasting lies to billions of people
                    cameras on the streets tracking who we meet
                    you call this liberty?
                    what's it gonna take to make you realise you gotta fight to stay free?"
                    lyrics by Paul Topete of Poker Face and their album "Made in America"

                    RON PAUL ROCK MUSIC VIDEO "KONTROL"


                    Poker Face


                    Poker Face- Control


                    Poker Face Myspace page
                    Poker's profile including the latest music, albums, songs, music videos and more updates.


                    "Do not believe in anything simply because you have heard it.
                    Do not believe in anything simply because it is spoken and rumored by many.
                    Do not believe in anything simply because it is found written in your religious books. Do not believe in anything merely on the authority of your teachers and elders. Do not believe in traditions because they have been handed down for many generations. But after observation and analysis, when you find that anything agrees with reason and is conducive to the good and benefit of one and all, then accept it and live up to it. Believe nothing, no matter where you read it, or who said it -even if I have said it - unless it agrees with your own reason and your own common sense.
                    --the Buddha

                    My aim is to agitate and disturb people. I'm not selling bread, I'm selling yeast.
                    –Miguel de Unamuno

                    Listen to Paul Topete from Poker Face talk about the 80% club:


                    He says we don't agree on everything, but for the most part if we can put the 20% of things we don't agree on, and just work together, we can take our country back.

                    "My method is to post anything I find of interest, not what I believe to be true. I'm not here to be some sort of web dictator to say what is true, what should be on the web, or what should be shot down the memory hole."
                    -Rob Daven

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                      #11
                      Want to watch a documentary about 9/11, that will make you think and question? It's here in 8-10 minute parts. Please, for anyone that wants to discuss this without calling each other names, please let's watch this, over a period of days, in 8-10 parts, and then we can discuss it rationally and reasonably without calling each other names like racist or conspiracy theorist or traitor or whatever, and not just read a review of "Loose Change: Final Cut" but watch it and then reasonably discuss. Thanks.

                      LOOSE CHANGE FINAL CUT Part 1


                      LOOSE CHANGE FINAL CUT Part 2


                      LOOSE CHANGE FINAL CUT Part 3


                      LOOSE CHANGE FINAL CUT Part 4


                      LOOSE CHANGE FINAL CUT Part 5


                      LOOSE CHANGE FINAL CUT Part 6


                      LOOSE CHANGE FINAL CUT Part 7


                      LOOSE CHANGE FINAL CUT Part 8


                      LOOSE CHANGE FINAL CUT Part 9


                      LOOSE CHANGE FINAL CUT Part 10


                      LOOSE CHANGE FINAL CUT Part 11


                      LOOSE CHANGE FINAL CUT Part 12


                      LOOSE CHANGE FINAL CUT Part 13


                      or here is the full video of Loose Change: Final Cut for 129 minutes at:

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                        #12
                        I Wanna Know by Poker Face


                        Here is a video by Ed K. set to music by Poker Face




                        Rather Die Than Be Your Slave

                        I do not wish this life to pass away
                        But life presents such possibilities - Each and every day
                        I heard a calling that was right for me
                        I prayed for strength for what's a head of me - Please show me the way

                        The sun rose high and burnt the night away
                        Who stood before me was my enemy - Don't tread on me
                        He's come to take away my liberties
                        I'd rather die than be a slave to thee - Don't treat me this way
                        CHORUS: I'd rather die than be your slave
                        I will survive, and you'll feel my rage
                        Its not a question of being brave
                        I'd just rather die, than be your slave

                        CHORUS
                        It didn't matter who shot first that day
                        They killed my brothers, they laid dead by me - I'm covered in their blood
                        We hit them hard we made them pay that day
                        We hung the traitors from the highest trees - No mercy from me

                        We lost a lot our pain was heavy
                        We sacrificed for GOD and country - No more colony
                        Still held the ground that was in front of me
                        This was our price to pay for liberty - Still you hear me say
                        CHORUS
                        Much time has past, we repeat history Our toys have changed while man
                        has stayed the same - Evil in his ways
                        Tribal families rule not over me
                        I will not let them rape our liberties - We'll die for them today

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                          #13
                          JFK Speech on Secret Societies & Freedom of Press


                          or
                          JFK WARNED US! You must watch now!

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                            #14
                            Here is the documentary on Bill Cooper. He predicted a 9/11 event in June 2001.

                            The Hour Of Our Time William Cooper 1-9


                            The Hour Of Our Time William Cooper 2-9


                            The Hour Of Our Time William Cooper 3-9


                            The Hour Of Our Time William Cooper 4-9


                            The Hour Of Our Time William Cooper 5-9


                            The Hour Of Our Time William Cooper 6-9


                            The Hour Of Our Time William Cooper 7-9


                            The Hour Of Our Time William Cooper 8-9


                            The Hour Of Our Time William Cooper 9-9


                            William Cooper-A Short Biography


                            "I only have one message to give you. I don't care what you think of
                            me. I don't care what you call me. I do care what you do with this
                            information because it is important to our survival as a species. It
                            is important to our planet. It is important for the world.

                            What happens to me is of no consequence, and I knew that when I
                            started this. Over the last 17 years I knew that I would have to stand
                            up and say this whether I wanted to or not, whether I was afraid, or
                            not. Now I am here, and now it is done. And I feel an overwhelming
                            relief.

                            You now have the information. You can laugh at it, you can throw it in
                            the trashcan. You can burn my house down if you want to. But I am
                            telling you right now, your future, your children's future, your
                            grandchildren's future, depends on what you do with this information."

                            Your own government is selling your children drugs, and you don't seem
                            to care. Your own government has given away the power of the people
                            and you don't seem to care. There is an apathy that is running rapid
                            in this country, that is deadly. Whether or not there are aliens, we
                            are truly now at this moment a nation of sheep. And ladies and
                            gentlemen, I assure you that sheep are always lead to the slaughter.
                            But it does not have to be that way.

                            There is tremendous power in knowledge. There is also tremendous power
                            in secrecy. Take away that secrecy, you make sure that you are
                            informed, and you can change things."
                            --William Cooper: Secret Government
                            Last edited by BankruptPinoy; 07-18-2008, 08:19 PM.

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                              #15
                              To many folks want to just blame the current President. We did not arrive at our current situation because of just George Bush. The blame needs to be shared with the Congress of the United States as well, both past and present.

                              bmrigs is correct the Federal Government since the civil war has increasingly usurped powers that were enumerated to the States. At the same time Congress has neglected its own Constitutional duties by passing the buck. This ranges from neglect of taking care of the money of the union by creating the Federal Reserve Bank during the Woodrow administration, to the passage of the emergency deployment law after the Korean War which allowed a President to deploy troops on foreign soil without Congressional approval or declaration of war in direct violation of the Constitution.

                              Every war since the Korean War the President has used that power and thus Congress has not done their constitutional duty to oversee when we go to war or when we choose to remain out of it. The current Iraq and Afghanistan wars are just the most recent examples.

                              Our nation and our freedoms hang by a thread right now, and if we are not careful it will break. We need to stop the R vs D argument because it is mote. They have switched power every 8-12 years on average for 150 years. Things have only gotten worse not better over that time. It is time to look not to a person's party but to the person and elect men and women who have strong convictions and strong love of our nation, who are more interested in doing good for the people than lining their pockets. It will not be an easy battle in the current system, but we must break the two party system if we are to remain a free people. Changing President is not enough we must change the Congress as well. Sadly there are not yet candidates from other parties or independent candidates running in all the states, I wish there were more but the laws are against them. If every American would go into their polling booth and vote for someone other than a R or D then we could perhaps make progress. To many are afraid to make that choice, they feel comfortable with the R and D and letting them flip every few years and that's sad because it never achieves progress.

                              If you value your freedom, and value this nation take the time to write your Representatives and Senators in the US congress and in the legislatures of your states. Let them know how you feel about issues. If you don't they'll continue as they have been doing which is only killing the future. You cannot borrow from the future to pay for today.

                              There is a good organization that I do not think is supported by any of the political parties while some of its initiatives are supported by one or more parties.



                              It might make good reading for everyone
                              May 31st, 2007: Petition Filed by my lawyer
                              July 2nd, 2007: 341 Meeting Held
                              September 4th, 2007: Discharged and Closed.

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