Hey, lets talk only politics and world problems here.

[bmrigs]

To many folks want to just blame the current President. We did not arrive at our current situation because of just George Bush. The blame needs to be shared with the Congress of the United States as well, both past and present.

bmrigs is correct the Federal Government since the civil war has increasingly usurped powers that were enumerated to the States. At the same time Congress has neglected its own Constitutional duties by passing the buck. This ranges from neglect of taking care of the money of the union by creating the Federal Reserve Bank during the Woodrow administration, to the passage of the emergency deployment law after the Korean War which allowed a President to deploy troops on foreign soil without Congressional approval or declaration of war in direct violation of the Constitution.

Every war since the Korean War the President has used that power and thus Congress has not done their constitutional duty to oversee when we go to war or when we choose to remain out of it. The current Iraq and Afghanistan wars are just the most recent examples.

Our nation and our freedoms hang by a thread right now, and if we are not careful it will break. We need to stop the R vs D argument because it is mote. They have switched power every 8-12 years on average for 150 years. Things have only gotten worse not better over that time. It is time to look not to a person's party but to the person and elect men and women who have strong convictions and strong love of our nation, who are more interested in doing good for the people than lining their pockets. It will not be an easy battle in the current system, but we must break the two party system if we are to remain a free people. Changing President is not enough we must change the Congress as well. Sadly there are not yet candidates from other parties or independent candidates running in all the states, I wish there were more but the laws are against them. If every American would go into their polling booth and vote for someone other than a R or D then we could perhaps make progress. To many are afraid to make that choice, they feel comfortable with the R and D and letting them flip every few years and that's sad because it never achieves progress.

If you value your freedom, and value this nation take the time to write your Representatives and Senators in the US congress and in the legislatures of your states. Let them know how you feel about issues. If you don't they'll continue as they have been doing which is only killing the future. You cannot borrow from the future to pay for today.

There is a good organization that I do not think is supported by any of the political parties while some of its initiatives are supported by one or more parties.

http://www.downsizedc.org/

It might make good reading for everyone

Good post JRScott. We had a candidate that wanted change and the media ridiculed him causing the general public to do the same, Ron Paul. So you see, the media can be used to discredit someone who doesnt play by the rules of the manipulators and the ignorant masses only get their information by tv or magazines controlled by the Council of Foriegn Relations and Trialteral Commission. How do you expect an American to make an informed decision with the secret ballot when he would rather watch American Idol at night instead of researching on his own about the dire situation in this country?

[bmrigs]

Good info Pinoy. I have seen alot of it already. People would just call this conspiracy nonsense but the govt was complicit in what happened on 9/11 no doubt in my mind.

[MomIcantFindmy]

There is a good organization that I do not think is supported by any of the political parties while some of its initiatives are supported by one or more parties.

http://www.downsizedc.org/

It might make good reading for everyone

Actually, the co-founders are current and former leaders of the Libertarian Party. The site swings way to far to the right for me.

[JRScott]

The Libertarian party is conservative fiscally and constitutionally however it is actually fairly liberal socially (after all one of the main groups in it is the gay and lesbian lobby).

However you've got to stop thinking right and left. Everyone really needs to sit down and just look at the budget of the United States, and the projected budget in the future. We can't afford what is going on. I have no problem with the states deciding many matters, that was the intention of the founding fathers.

Education for example is not a power enumerated unto Congress by the US Constitution. It is a usurped power. They've basically tried to shoe horn the entire nation into a program that really just doesn't work. It would be far better to eliminate the US Dept. Of Education and allow each state to tailer its educational program to the needs of that state. What will be needed in NC isn't the same as what's needed in FL or CA or MI or UT etc and vice versa

Energy is also not something enumerated to the federal government and we've allowed the federal government not only to usurp authority over it but also they have held us back. Alaska wants to drill their oil, Colorado wants to covert their coal to oil The US Federal Government stands in the way with usurped power it should not have. If each state were to work within the resources of that state they could all be energy independent, but the Feds are not allowing it.

Downsize doesn't call for those, they call for more common sense things.

Some of my Favorite:

Read the Bills Act: Congress must read the bill before voting on it. Currently not 1 member of Congress reads every bill they vote on. 90% of them have no idea what the bill includes other than the first 5 pages. It's bankrupting us.

One Subject at a Time Act: No more 5000 page bills that cover hundreds of topics. If a bill is defense related only defense stuff, transportation related only transportation. Very common sense.

Write the Bills Act: This requires congressman and senators to write the actual bill which is actually their constitutional duty as outlined in the Constitution. Currently they pass that job to high paid bureaucrats that cost us billions of dollars.

Whether you are liberal or whether or are conservative those three proposals should be common sense and something that would benefit all.

[Bandit]

Good info Pinoy. I have seen alot of it already. People would just call this conspiracy nonsense but the govt was complicit in what happened on 9/11 no doubt in my mind.

and still is complicit. when GWB was asked about being aware of the 911 attack prior to it, his reply was, "a time for politics"

these global politicians have no problem killing off a few million people at a time if necessary to achieve their personal agenda & americans are no different.

That goofy Sudan politician in africa just busted by international law for genocide, maybe 2 million people, along with all the other genocides through history. I suppose that is nonsense & was never conspired too, which to me is just turning face & refusing to address the facts.

[bmrigs]

Education for example is not a power enumerated unto Congress by the US Constitution. It is a usurped power. They've basically tried to shoe horn the entire nation into a program that really just doesn't work. It would be far better to eliminate the US Dept. Of Education and allow each state to tailer its educational program to the needs of that state. What will be needed in NC isn't the same as what's needed in FL or CA or MI or UT etc and vice versa

They wanted to take over the "edukashun" of America so they can dumb down Americans so they dont know their rights. There is a reason the Constitution and real history is not taught. Dont want to inform and waken anybody who can be a threat to the system.

[bmrigs]

Since I have reached a 100 posts I thought I would give myself a avartar. This is what I think of a worthless fiat currency called the Federal Reserve Note.

[magyar123]

How about this: Was Congress right in trying to impeach Clinton for " I did not have sex with that woman...ah, Monica Lewinsky ???

[Bandit]

How about this: Was Congress right in trying to impeach Clinton for " I did not have sex with that woman...ah, Monica Lewinsky ???

yes. he should have been impeached because he is a liar, but the law saw it differently & he paid dearly for it.

bush needs impeachment as well as he also lied to congress & the people.
Leave it to me... I will impeach them all

[Bandit]

Since I have reached a 100 posts I thought I would give myself a avartar. This is what I think of a worthless fiat currency called the Federal Reserve Note.

[JRScott]

How about this: Was Congress right in trying to impeach Clinton for " I did not have sex with that woman...ah, Monica Lewinsky ???

Yes they were right, he was in fact impeached, he just wasn't removed from office.

At the same time there are many Senators and Representatives of both parties who if held to the same standard should be impeached and/or removed from office.

[bmrigs]

How about this: Was Congress right in trying to impeach Clinton for " I did not have sex with that woman...ah, Monica Lewinsky ???

He didnt have sex with her, she just gave him oral....

[bmrigs]

Robivi3 as quoted in Cali Thread:

"Love you, love your hubby Cali... Thank God people are willing to protect America's interests abroad. BETTER TO SPEND 300 BILLION FIGHTING THEM OVER THERE THAN 300 BILLION FIGHTING THEM ON FLAGLER STREET, a direct quote from my old Cuban buddy at work."

What is America's interests abroad? To steal natural resources so you can maintain your standard of living? You mean better to go further into debt fighting an enemy that we created out of our Foriegn Policy.


"Would you like a list of neighbors here in Sunrise, or wife's family who have sufferedd at the hands of these piece of sh*t a*holes. Our old friends who lived in Sunrise Manor North (you oldies have seen pictures of their kids in my older posts), the wife was kidapped on a Bus with two children on her way to see the US Consul in Cali. She is college educated. Thank God for a bus driver with the balls to kill and who led them out of the jungle after several days. How many people in dungeons under the ground in Iraq were found alive with body parts surgically removed for torture without anesthesia? How many of those people wish we hadn't shown up? God Bless your husband for being there."

Would you also like a list, more like a phone book worth of people that suffered at the hands of our Military and foreign policy? You really want to talk about torture? The US doesnt even do it underground they have a whole base on Guantanimo to do it. Two wrongs dont make a right.


"God Bless those who kill those who would kill us. 19 of them killed 3000 of us. Kill them, they will hate with or without an Isreal and no matter how much we love them and KOWTOW to their demands they will hate us until we convert to Islam. Fanatacism is dangerous especially when it is in control. I have the US code defining a weapon of mass destruction my desk. Because i work in Transit we have to have Terrorist Training every so often, hence the book, the truth is that under that definition of weapons of mass destruction Iraq was full of them. God Bless those who went in."

You really want God to bless that? You fool. 19 of them that dont even come from Iraq and Afghanistan but those countries were made to pay the price. Why dont we invade those countries like Saudi Arabia and Egypt or Jordan where they came from? And why is a whole nation made to suffer because of 19 individuals? Those people in the Middle East didnt "hate us" until the last 40 years. We are a nation 232 years old. Where is the WMD in Iraq because the govt can produce any of them but you have evidence on you desk. Have you ever thought that America was the nation that gave Saddam weapons of "mass destruction" back in the 80's to use against the Iranians and the Kurds. Remember that? That makes us complicit with those atrocities that happened. Fanaticism is dangerous and so is blind patriotism like what you are showing us. You want to kill everybody over there because the govt and the media suckered you into believing that they are all out to get us. Do yourself a favor and turn off Fox News Channel. Better yet, go back to sleep and we will wake you when the govt has its new RFID chips to implant under your skin.

[rfassett]

bmrigs - from all of your rants about how the US should not be involved, I get the impression that you believe that the US should live in isolation and solitude - a vacuum if you will. I read a great number of your posts that are in the mode of 'we should not be there, we should not do that". What is YOUR plan? What is the answers that you propose? It is real easy to say 'we should not' and be critical, but propose some constructive thoughts - yours, not something you found on the internet that you think speaks your mind. It has been posted before, and I agree, that one can find support for his or her position any time of the day or night simply by finding like minded postings on the net. Give us your own thoughts. And tell me, are you really privy to all of the classified and confidential inforrmation that goes into the decisions that take place in Washington? If not, how do you dare question those decisions? Upon what basis do you question them? No, I am not suggesting blindly following Washington's lead. In fact, I have been a real strong proponent that government, top to bottom, needs to be shrunk by at least 55%. But unless you are granted permission to peruse the classified information, I do not understand how you can so vehemently question and criticize.

You are real quick to call someone like robivi3 a fool. I do not know that person anymore than what I have gleaned from his postings on this forum, but what I have seen has led to a high level of respect. A fool? Not hardly. Those of us that follow Christ, and I know that is a different thread and foreign to you, are taught to pray for our enemies.

And you are real quick to tell people to turn off their televisions and do things your way - as if to say your way is the only right way. I could not agree with you more that the newscastings are tainted, but so are the vast number of things that show up on the internet. So as is true for any message, discernment is paramount.

[bmrigs]

bmrigs - from all of your rants about how the US should not be involved, I get the impression that you believe that the US should live in isolation and solitude - a vacuum if you will. I read a great number of your posts that are in the mode of 'we should not be there, we should not do that". What is YOUR plan? What is the answers that you propose? It is real easy to say 'we should not' and be critical, but propose some constructive thoughts - yours, not something you found on the internet that you think speaks your mind. It has been posted before, and I agree, that one can find support for his or her position any time of the day or night simply by finding like minded postings on the net. Give us your own thoughts. And tell me, are you really privy to all of the classified and confidential inforrmation that goes into the decisions that take place in Washington? If not, how do you dare question those decisions? Upon what basis do you question them? No, I am not suggesting blindly following Washington's lead. In fact, I have been a real strong proponent that government, top to bottom, needs to be shrunk by at least 55%. But unless you are granted permission to peruse the classified information, I do not understand how you can so vehemently question and criticize.

You are real quick to call someone like robivi3 a fool. I do not know that person anymore than what I have gleaned from his postings on this forum, but what I have seen has led to a high level of respect. A fool? Not hardly. Those of us that follow Christ, and I know that is a different thread and foreign to you, are taught to pray for our enemies.

And you are real quick to tell people to turn off their televisions and do things your way - as if to say your way is the only right way. I could not agree with you more that the newscastings are tainted, but so are the vast number of things that show up on the internet. So as is true for any message, discernment is paramount.

The US should not live in isolation. Jefferson said it best: "Commerce with all nations, alliance with none should be our motto". Are you supposing that interfering in the affairs of other nations and invading their countries is somehow showing interaction with the rest of the world? When we make alliances with States such as Israel, then we compromise our principles that this nation was founded upon. I have explained my thoughts on what should be done in many posts. Maybe you just attempt to ignore them. I dont recieve half of my research from the net. I have a small library of books that I read and am always trying to becominig more informed with each bit of information I find. Why do you presume my information is only from the net? Where do you get your information from? Govt, media, textbooks, religion, parents? Why are those sources anymore credible than any other source? What makes your thoughts original and not mine? You can safely say that my opinions are not mainstream, politically correct bs that you see on TV or from the govt. You want to believe everything that the govt and your church tells you then you are the misinformed, misled sheep. I dare to question EVERYBODY and EVERYTHING, even your imaginary god. That is my natural right as a human being, not as an American. Thats my basis. If you think that you cannot question authority in itself then your the one with really no original thought. Your just a robot that is programmed by those that have authority over you. I am privy to the information that goes on in Washington just as you are because its really not confidential but public to anyone who is not lazy and dares to find out what the truth of the matter is. But the trick is you cant be lazy enough not to find out. You have to exert.....EFFORT. Now as for robivi3, if you want to respect what he had to say about killing people over there for what 19 alleged people have done then you really are not Christian are you. Your taught to pray for your enemies but your are TOLD to kill them also, by govt, not your god. . Gssh, how Christ like of you.