Hey, lets talk only politics and world problems here.

[rfassett]

bmrigs - here-in lies the problem that I have with reading your posts. In one sentence you state that my God is imaginary. In another sentence you question my likeness to Christ. Just to set the record straight about one issue that you seem to like to taint - my God, my Jesus is in no way a pacifist. You throw around examples of religion and peoples beliefs as if you understand them. I would submit that you understand them no more than those you accuse of being ignorant of govenmental workings understand the government. I can site you example after example of why I believe God, and therefore Jesus, is not a pacifist like you want to make Him out, but you would not believe it nor accept it so I will not waste my time. (By the way, the Bible also tells me that - to not waste my time and effort where it will fall void.)

Now, you only answered the self-serving half of the question about information to which are privy. So I will have to assume that you are NOT privy to classified information and therefore you can not possibly understand what went into the decision-making processes of those decisions that you are so quick to criticize.

And no, I am nobody's robot, but you would not understand that, so we will just leave it at that.

[bmrigs]

bmrigs - here-in lies the problem that I have with reading your posts. In one sentence you state that my God is imaginary. In another sentence you question my likeness to Christ. Just to set the record straight about one issue that you seem to like to taint - my God, my Jesus is in no way a pacifist. You throw around examples of religion and peoples beliefs as if you understand them. I would submit that you understand them no more than those you accuse of being ignorant of govenmental workings understand the government. I can site you example after example of why I believe God, and therefore Jesus, is not a pacifist like you want to make Him out, but you would not believe it nor accept it so I will not waste my time. (By the way, the Bible also tells me that - to not waste my time and effort where it will fall void.)

Now, you only answered the self-serving half of the question about information to which are privy. So I will have to assume that you are NOT privy to classified information and therefore you can not possibly understand what went into the decision-making processes of those decisions that you are so quick to criticize.

And no, I am nobody's robot, but you would not understand that, so we will just leave it at that.

Yeah I know all about the other "side of christ" where he says that he came not in peace but of the sword. Blah Blah. I see you are of the minority that says Christ was not about pacifism and "turn the other cheek". How original of you when you get your information from a book written by people who were not even eye-witnesses to the life of Jesus. It's all heresay. I studied your religion or should I say your "relationship with God" that gets thrown around these days. Talk about self serving. So you believe aggression by religion is legitimate? And I guess you can always make the other peoples to be the infidels that need to be subdued. How original. Read history about when your religion was in control of Europe and how ignorant and belligerant they were. Its called the Dark Ages for a reason. And dont give me that crap about that was Roman Catholism or Greek Orthodoxy so it doesnt apply to your faith. Your christianity came from the loins of the Early Church. Period. Born again, mormon, Jehovah's, whatever the creation. The Bible tells you not to waste your time explaining if that person wont come to the conclusion of faith based reasoning. Thats what I call willful ignorance and blind obedience. If man never questioned anything in this universe or his theories never cross examined, then man would not have come this far in his development. As for evidence that you and I and everybody is stuck in a system that is making us slaves I have some evidence you may or may not accept but thats up to you to determine. Give me a few......

[bmrigs]

Here are some of the evidences that I have come across that may be of interest to you to show that we are all in bondage to a government that has made us collateral to the owners of the Federal Reserve. Refer back to what I wrote earlier in this thread about how the 14th Amendment was used by the Federal Govt. to take over the States and its Citizens. What we have now is a De Facto government in the place of De Jure Govt with Statutory Law as the law of the land. If you know the history of the US becoming bankrupt in 1933, then you would know that Roosevelt demanded all Americans to surrender their gold to the govt. All the gold of the country was given to the owners of the Federal Reserve as a good faith gesture. All Americans and their possessions and property are collateral against the debt present and future at the time. Read:

[bmrigs]

Since 1933 we have been in a declared state of emergency because of the bankruptcy and that has never been lifted. When this emergency is in effect, people rights can be trampled upon from an abusive executive branch. People wonder how can a President like Bush just invade countries without the consent o f Congress. Well its in a state of emergency that he can do it. Read:


Without reference to normal Constituional processes it says. That means he can become a dictator without checks and balances. I have posted before what executive orders the President has in his power to do, here again I will post:
Executive Order 10995 provides for the takeover of the communications media.
Executive Order 10997 provides for the takeover of all electric, power, petroleum, gas, fuels, and minerals.
Executive Order 10988 provides for the takeover of food resources and farms.
Executive Order 10999 provides for the takeover of all modes of transportation, control of highways, seaports, etc.
Executive Order 11000 provides for mobilization of all civilians into work brigades under the Government supervision.
Executive Order 11001 provides for Government takeover of all health, education and welfare functions.
Executive Order 11002 designates the Postmaster General to operate a national registration of all persons.
Executive Order 11003 provides for the Government to take over airports and aircraft.
Executive Order 11004 provides for the Housing and Finance Authority to relocate communities, designate areas to be abandoned, and establish new locations for populations.
Executive Order 11005 provides for the Government to take over railroads, inland waterways, and public storage facilities.
All these above Executive Orders were combined into one huge Executive Order which allows all these power seizures to take place if the President declares a national emergency.
President Carter combined all these seizure authorizations into one Executive Order, #11490, and signed into "law" on July 20, 1979.
These executive orders were not put into place to make people safe. I believe they were put there when the owners are ready to implement their final stage of World Government. They want order and obedience from the masses when TSHTF.

[bmrigs]

Im sorry I forgot to put forth the source of that evidence: Senate Report, 93rd Congress November 19, 1973.

[rfassett]

Huh - now that's interesting. I have come to the conclusion that you truly do NOT understand. All that rhetoric that you throw around about the Bible and the history thereof just does not make sense to me. Yeah, I believe that God (and Jesus) is not a pacifist, but that does not mean that I believe He is a war-monger. You just don't understand, it does not have to be one way or the other. But before this goes any further, I will step aside since this is a thread for politics, not religion (even though I truly believe, in the big scheme of things, that one can not be separated from the other.) And I know beyond a shadow of a doubt that you do not feel that way - and that's OK. There will no doubt come a time that one of us is proved wrong and the other right.

[bmrigs]

Now that the Bankruptcy was in effect the legal precedent had to be established to properly deal with identifing with it. Roosevelt had to stack the Supreme Court with the right Justices to overthrow all decisions prior to the bankruptcy. Common law at the federal level had to be usurped for Public Policy and Statutory Jurisdiction which is colorable law. Colorable means it appears to be genuine but is not. The court case that overturned Common Law justice was the Erie Railroad vs. Tompkins case. On 25 April 1938, the United States Supreme Court, in Erie Railroad Co. vs. Tompkins, 304 U.S. 64, 58 S.Ct. 817, 82 L.Ed. 1188, abandoned the standing precedents of law that had been in place for the 150 years prior to 1938. Specifically, that court stated:

"THERE IS NO FEDERAL COMMON LAW, and CONGRESS HAS NO POWER TO DECLARE SUBSTANTIVE RULES OF COMMON LAW applicable IN A STATE, WHETHER they be LOCAL or GENERAL in their nature, be they COMMERCIAL LAW OR a part of the LAW OF TORTS."

[bmrigs]

And I know beyond a shadow of a doubt that you do not feel that way - and that's OK. There will no doubt come a time that one of us is proved wrong and the other right.

Yeah ok I dont feel that way. Whatever you think. Oooh is that a threat that I should be aware of a Judgement Day. So let me ask, do you just believe so to cover your ass if that happens to come? No thanks, I will stick with Reason and take my chances.

[bmrigs]

[bmrigs]

[bmrigs]

Now for those who think this is all bogus and that there isnt a plan for World Govt then may I suggest a you tube clip of men in finance, politics, and educators and see what they have had to say about it:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Da1TUeuLIaE

[rfassett]

Now for those who think this is all bogus and that there isnt a plan for World Govt

See, this is what I mean about religion and politics being inseperable. A study of the scripture will reveal that a world government was prophesied thousands of years ago. It was also prophesied that the world government would happen before other prophesied events took place. That is why I am watching with great interest the unfolding of these events. You, Mr. bmrigs, accused me of being a robot. How does it feel to be a puppet? You are playing your role very well. Keep up the good work. And for what it is worth, when you are not insulting, or showing a high degree of insensitivity to, others on this forum, I really do enjoy reading your posts - even if I do not agree with alot of what you say. So, see, I am not as closed minded and ignorant as you think.

[bmrigs]

See, this is what I mean about religion and politics being inseperable. A study of the scripture will reveal that a world government was prophesied thousands of years ago. It was also prophesied that the world government would happen before other prophesied events took place. That is why I am watching with great interest the unfolding of these events. You, Mr. bmrigs, accused me of being a robot. How does it feel to be a puppet? You are playing your role very well. Keep up the good work. And for what it is worth, when you are not insulting, or showing a high degree of insensitivity to, others on this forum, I really do enjoy reading your posts - even if I do not agree with alot of what you say. So, see, I am not as closed minded and ignorant as you think.

Fair enough rfassett. Although I dont think myself a puppet you have your right to believe otherwise. I will admit that I can be rough around the edges. Hub can attest to that. You have your beliefs and I have mine. Peace to you.

[rfassett]

Peace to you.

And right back at you!

[BKOnce]

Politics + Religion = Boring.