9-11 Video footage comparisons

[AngelinaCatHub]

I’m not going to get into this type of argument as to what happened but I shall share my experience. I was having a cup of coffee in a motel in Indiana watching the Imus show. Then the bulletin came in that a “private small jet” had hit the North tower. While watching live on TV, I will certify my credentials, I am a licensed pilot (private) with over 2000 hours, That plane came from the left, I noted immediately that something is wrong with this picture as a large plane flight rules forbid flying so low over a city, then the plane crossed to the right of the buildings and made a descending right turn, and I was yelling in the motel room OH SH*T, OH SH*T, as I saw what was going to happen as if I were there. There was no time at all for that live TV shot to have been altered and I saw what I saw, real time. The plane descended in a turn with full power on, and the fireball that came out was plane shaped as the force would have drawn out the explosion so fast that there would have been no way to form a pattern by any other means than the impact shape at 600 knots. There is no cover up. I saw what I saw and it was what it was. ‘Hub

[HHM]

If you cannot explain it yourself, then the conspiracy theory argument does not cut it. While I agree that thought pattern does exist, if you cannot prove them wrong, then their theory is just as valid as anyone else.

HHM, why dont you comment on the content of the video itself. Is it because you also do not have the answer for why the news would show tampered footage? And you do not have the answer to the questions?

If you don't have the answer it is ok to admit that.

I am not going to buy into the baiting, the fact that you would bait the issue in just this manner proves my point as far as I am concerned as it fits the basic intellectual dishonesty of conspiracy theories. Questions are not facts, if there is anyone with a closed mind it is those that focus their attention on 5% of the story and ignore the other 95%, and the reason you ignore it is because it doesn't fit your world view.

Every major conspiracy theory has an underlying motive and assumptions.

If you want to prove an alternative version of 9/11, get evidence, get real facts that actually support the underlying claims. Basing your ideas on blurry photos and the opinions of actresses ( ) isn't going to cut it. If you were intellectually honest, you would be just as skeptical of these assertions as you are of the so called "official" version. But no, you accept it because it fits your world view, at least be honest with yourself.

[Bandit]

I am not going to buy into the baiting, the fact that you would bait the issue in just this manner proves my point as far as I am concerned as it fits the basic intellectual dishonesty of conspiracy theories. Questions are not facts, if there is anyone with a closed mind it is those that focus their attention on 5% of the story and ignore the other 95%, and the reason you ignore it is because it doesn't fit your world view.

Every major conspiracy theory has an underlying motive and assumptions.

If you want to prove an alternative version of 9/11, get evidence, get real facts that actually support the underlying claims. Basing your ideas on blurry photos and the opinions of actresses ( ) isn't going to cut it. If you were intellectually honest, you would be just as skeptical of these assertions as you are of the so called "official" version. But no, you accept it because it fits your world view, at least be honest with yourself.

you still have not answered the questions on the video. It is a FACT that there was footage shown to the pubilc was severely tampered with.

If you watch the video again you would know that no claims were made other than the video was messed with when shown to the public on TV.

[Bandit]

There is no cover up. I saw what I saw and it was what it was. ‘Hub

The video does not say there was a cover up in that context. Everyone knows a plane was flown into the building.

It is asking you why was the footage shown to the public tampered with. Where was that camera & a host of other questions that no one has the answer for. Why did they lie about the footage being shot from a helicopter?

These are the questions. The video is Scientifically Correct & historically valid. There is no way you could miss the plane coming in, but when they showed it to the public it was altered.

Do you know the answers 'Hub?

[Bandit]

It is a goood thing this is not a test that must be answered. Everyone here, including myself would fail.

I have no problem not knowing the answer but I wont take nothing for an answer.


geesh

[Bandit]

Why did they lie about the footage being shot from a helicopter?

I am sorry. I dont mean they lied...what I mean is, it was not shot from a helicopter & that is one point that was used to prove the video tamperings.

You would really have to be on the ball or you would never know the difference between the two videos!
I know I sure would have missed it if not brought to my attention.

[AngelinaCatHub]

The video does not say there was a cover up in that context. Everyone knows a plane was flown into the building.

It is asking you why was the footage shown to the public tampered with. Where was that camera & a host of other questions that no one has the answer for. Why did they lie about the footage being shot from a helicopter?

These are the questions. The video is Scientifically Correct & historically valid. There is no way you could miss the plane coming in, but when they showed it to the public it was altered.

Do you know the answers 'Hub?

No Bandit, I cannot answer that. Just as I cannot answer some publications making Obama look blacker than he is, or making Imus look unshaved. You and I both know and agree the press if a fifth column in this Country. 'Hub

[Lacy]

The video does not say there was a cover up in that context. Everyone knows a plane was flown into the building.

So you do believe a plane was flown into the building , right ?.... Because I was going to ask you if you believed that the people on the planes that died didn't never exist.


Very interesting video though thanks for sharing it.

[HHM]

All I will say is go to this web page, the one mentioned in the video you posted

http://www.archive.org/details/sept_11_tv_archive

And look at the archive footage yourself (all of it, not just the 5 second excerpts), and then make-up your mind. I find it is always better to look at items "in context".

[Bandit]

So you do believe a plane was flown into the building , right ?.... .

Yes, of course I do.

[Bandit]

All I will say is go to this web page, the one mentioned in the video you posted

http://www.archive.org/details/sept_11_tv_archive

And look at the archive footage yourself, and then make-up your mind. I find it is always better to look at items "in context".

What am I supposed to be looking at there? I am not going thru all that to find whatever it is you say I should see. Could you be a little more specific, please?

[HHM]

That's what I thought.

Just go back and watch the footage, I am simply challenging you to do your own investigation, but if you are unwilling to do so, I guess I was right all along. If you were a true skeptic, you would be devouring those videos. They are pretty enlightening.

I am not going to spoon feed it for you, if you are unwilling to even exam the source material for the 6 seconds of video presented in that pointless you-tube video, why should I bother. As I said, you already made up your mind based on the fact that you distrust authority, not based on any facts because you don't have any facts of your own, you simply watch manufactured conspiracy theory videos and simply believe them to be true because they fit your world view.

[Bandit]

That's what I thought.

Just go back and watch the footage, I am simply challenging you to do your own investigation, but if you are unwilling to do so, I guess I was right all along. If you were a true skeptic, you would be devouring those videos. They are pretty enlightening.

I am not going to spoon feed it for you, if you are unwilling to even exam the source material for the 6 seconds of video presented in that pointless you-tube video, why should I bother. As I said, you already made up your mind based on the fact that you distrust authority, not based on any facts because you don't have any facts of your own, you simply watch manufactured conspiracy theory videos and simply believe them to be true because they fit your world view.

You have not given me anything to exam. I am not going to watch hours & days of video that you yourself cannot even offer those few moments to debunk the OP.

Watching what? You should be able to pinpoint exactly what you think I should watch...not me chasing you. If you are calling it a conspiracy theory then start debunking it.

I am not the one who claims to have the answer, but you do, while giving no facts of your own.
I am challenging you to do your investigating because you are providing an answer with no proof.

[Bandit]

How does all this crap help put food on the table? Why don't most of you "conspiracy theorists" go get a job or a second job to occupy your time and be someone who contributes to society rather than sit around and blow stupid smoke up everyone's a**. Maybe if you concentrated on your own lives instead of what could of happenned 7 years ago, you wouldn't be in the mess you are in now.

Calling people stupid does not answer the questions.

[Bandit]

If the shoe fits.....

Insulting members & name calling that way is against the code of conduct. You better go read it.