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    Bankruptcy Filings Per Capita

    The US Courts recently released information regarding per capita bankruptcy filings in each state and county. You can view a map demonstrating the counties in each state with the highest per capita bankruptcy filing rates at the following link: http://www.uscourts.gov/Press_Releas...1209_fcmap.pdf

    #2
    WOW! Is all I can say. Thanks. 'Hub
    If I knew it all, would I be here?? Hang in there = Retained attorney 8-06, Filed 12-28-07, Discharge 8-13-08, Finally CLOSED 11-3-09, 3-31-10 AP Dismissed, Informed by incompetent lawyer of CLOSED status, October 14, 2010.

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      #3
      Stand by.

      The usual political brigade will be in here shortly to blame Obama.

      And then the other side will blame Bush.

      And the other side will say Bush made Obama do it.

      And that will be countered by charges against Clinton, Hoover, Lincoln, and Taft.

      Soon thereafter, we will have lost all value this post might have offered and will resort to name calling and partisan bickering.

      Then it will get really ugly.

      Sorry, but it seems to be a growing theme on the forum, and I am tiring of it.

      Tag, you're it.

      11-20-09-- Filed Chapter 7
      12-23-09-- 341 Meeting-Early Christmas Gift?
      3-9-10--Discharged

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        #4
        Clinton, Hoover, Lincoln, and Taft

        Also sounds like a law firm.

        The ones who are "On YOUR Side."

        If you win, or pay up front.

        Sorry if I seem a bit more cynical than usual.

        Too much time to think about too many things this weekend. Please forgive me.

        11-20-09-- Filed Chapter 7
        12-23-09-- 341 Meeting-Early Christmas Gift?
        3-9-10--Discharged

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          #5
          It is all Nixon's fault, or Reagan, or FDR. Is is OK to blame dead people?


          Re the map, the rates seem pretty low. Only 0.5% in my county, and even the reddest county on the map is only 1.6% max.

          I thought the numbers were higher.
          Last edited by WhatMoney; 03-07-2010, 09:47 PM.
          “When fascism comes to America, it’ll be wrapped in a flag and carrying a cross” — Sinclair Lewis

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            #6
            Originally posted by WhatMoney View Post
            Re the map, the rates seem pretty low. Only 0.5% in my county, and even the reddest county on the map is only 1.6% max.

            I thought the numbers were higher.
            The figures show per thousand, not per hundred. If you want percentages, multiply the given rate by 10. Thus, the reddest county is 16%, not 1.6 percent.
            Pay no attention to anything I post. I graduated last in my class from a fly-by-night law school that no longer exists; I never studied or went to class; and I only post on internet forums when I'm too drunk to crawl away from the computer.

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              #7
              Originally posted by DeadManCrawling View Post
              Stand by.

              The usual political brigade will be in here shortly to blame Obama.

              And then the other side will blame Bush.

              And the other side will say Bush made Obama do it.

              And that will be countered by charges against Clinton, Hoover, Lincoln, and Taft.

              Soon thereafter, we will have lost all value this post might have offered and will resort to name calling and partisan bickering.

              Then it will get really ugly.

              Sorry, but it seems to be a growing theme on the forum, and I am tiring of it.

              Tag, you're it.

              You are not forced to read anything here. It it tires you why do you force yourself to participate?
              Well, I did. Every one of 'em. Mostly I remember the last one. The wild finish. A guy standing on a station platform in the rain with a comical look in his face because his insides have been kicked out. -Rick

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                #8
                Originally posted by MSbklawyer View Post
                The figures show per thousand, not per hundred. If you want percentages, multiply the given rate by 10. Thus, the reddest county is 16%, not 1.6 percent.
                No, it is 16 people out of every 1000, which is 1.6%. I still think that is alot. This number is "per capita", so you have to some ciphering (as Jethro Bodine would say) to get to a usable %.

                In an average city how many people are in a family? Probably 4. So you could divide the 1000 by 4 and say that there is 16 BK's per family in those counties in 2009, which would be 6.4% of families. Now if you assume there will be just as many in 2010, then you would have 12.8% over a two year period. I would guess that over a five year period from 2008 to 2013, it could end up being 20% or more of families have dealt with a BK.

                You would really need to know alot more about the underlying data, but still a large number in my opinion.
                Wife Laid off - 11/16/2009 Missed First Payments - 12/5/2009
                Filed Chap 7 - 12/31/2009
                341 - 2/12/2010
                Discharged - 4/19/2010

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by BCA2009 View Post
                  No, it is 16 people out of every 1000, which is 1.6%. I still think that is alot. This number is "per capita", so you have to some ciphering (as Jethro Bodine would say) to get to a usable %... In an average city how many people are in a family? Probably 4.
                  Because per capita isn't really specific, eg. did they only include adults over 18, etc., the number per household should be higher. I think average household size is more like 2.2. And in some cases both adult members of a household could file BK. And about 40% of the population lives alone.

                  The typical bk rate for the counties is under 1%, no county in my state was over 0.8%. Only in a few states are there many of the >1% red counties. If you take all the personal AND business bankruptcies in 2009 and divide by the population of the United States, you get a bankruptcy rate of 0.47718%. That seems consistent with the average rate on the map. And using 2.2 average household size that would mean a little over 1% of US households filed bankruptcy in 2009.

                  http://www.uscourts.gov/Press_Releas...ngsDec2009.cfm
                  Last edited by WhatMoney; 03-08-2010, 01:06 PM.
                  “When fascism comes to America, it’ll be wrapped in a flag and carrying a cross” — Sinclair Lewis

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                    #10
                    From the 2000 US Census:
                    HOUSEHOLDS BY TYPE

                    Total households 105,480,101 100.0%

                    Family households (families) 71,787,347 68.1%

                    With own children under 18 years 34,588,368 32.8%

                    Married-couple family 54,493,232 51.7%

                    With own children under 18 years 24,835,505 23.5%

                    Female householder, no husband present 12,900,103 12.2%

                    With own children under 18 years 7,561,874 7.2%

                    Nonfamily households 33,692,754 31.9%

                    Householder living alone 27,230,075 25.8%

                    Householder 65 years and over 9,722,857 9.2%

                    Households with individuals under 18 years 38,022,115 36.0%

                    Households with individuals 65 years and over 24,672,708 23.4%

                    Average household size 2.59

                    http://factfinder.census.gov/servlet/SAFFFacts

                    The 2010 Census results will be out next year. The over 65 groups will increase, and I expect average household size will be smaller than in 2000.
                    “When fascism comes to America, it’ll be wrapped in a flag and carrying a cross” — Sinclair Lewis

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