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    #31
    tinroofrusted, do you really gloss over the facts like that everyday?

    he was asked to take out 3 words. dont over look that. you want to paint it like he was told to shut the hell up and dont say a word.

    if you are going to speak to me then you are going to have to use the facts as they are and argue solid points. not make stuff up.

    removing 3 overly critical and harsh words is not the same of what you speak.

    and freedom of speech is a bogus argument. tell me you arnt like that? tht you know better? just cuz you can type it doesnt mean you should say it. tell me you know that makes sense to you?

    should i be able to say anything i want? yeah right. look what it leads to? this. think about it.
    Im not an attorney or a trustee. You cant trust me either though!

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      #32
      Originally posted by tinroofrusted
      I am an advocate of neither side, thank you.
      really.
      Im not an attorney or a trustee. You cant trust me either though!

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        #33
        Originally posted by bkfiler
        tinroofrusted, do you really gloss over the facts like that everyday?

        he was asked to take out 3 words. dont over look that. you want to paint it like he was told to shut the hell up and dont say a word.

        if you are going to speak to me then you are going to have to use the facts as they are and argue solid points. not make stuff up.

        removing 3 overly critical and harsh words is not the same of what you speak.

        and freedom of speech is a bogus argument. tell me you arnt like that? tht you know better? just cuz you can type it doesnt mean you should say it. tell me you know that makes sense to you?

        should i be able to say anything i want? yeah right. look what it leads to? this. think about it.

        Actually, in the privacy of my own home I say and think exactly what I feel at any given moment. Do I like the fact that I feel that I have to be trained like a cow coming to a bell to be fed when I am out in public and watch my words so some jerk might not get offended? NO. Do I, so I don't get my ass kicked? YES.

        Freedom of speech is NOT a bogus argument. I don't care if you don't like what he said. HE SAID IT, and HE HAS A RIGHT TO SAY IT. I don't care if it offends, hurts someones feelings or whatever. Your comments about the old women of this country are probably your actual thoughts. You said them, they are out in the open now, and so be it. You have a right to say it if you think it. Period. The repercussions are there, as with anything, but if we start limiting just "three little itty bitty words," imagine what will be next to be limited....

        The execution of someone's right to say what they think and feel is absolutely damning and damaging to our country's future and rights of speech and thought.
        BUSY running my own credit repair services! Sorry I don't stop in so often any more!

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          #34
          Originally posted by bkfiler
          really.

          Give me a break.

          I am an advocate of equal treatment for everyone. I am an advocate of free speech, and personal choice.

          What I am not an advocate of, is people having their rights limited, or people being silenced or harmed because someone doesn't agree with their opinion.

          I am seriously getting a strong dislike about this whole topic, because some people think it's perfectly acceptable to limit and reduce other people's rights and freedoms. That is a scary thing.
          BUSY running my own credit repair services! Sorry I don't stop in so often any more!

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            #35
            "Freedom of speech is NOT a bogus argument. I don't care if you don't like what he said. HE SAID IT, and HE HAS A RIGHT TO SAY IT. I don't care if it offends, hurts someones feelings or whatever. Your comments about the old women of this country are probably your actual thoughts. You said them, they are out in the open now, and so be it. You have a right to say it if you think it. Period. The repercussions are there, as with anything, but if we start limiting just "three little itty bitty words," imagine what will be next to be limited...."

            yep. i thought so. how did i guess.

            "im not an extremist"

            sure.
            Im not an attorney or a trustee. You cant trust me either though!

            [x] - Done with 341? Join the 60 Day Club! ___________[x] - Im Discharged! Whoo Hooo!
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            [x] - Zombie Debt Collectors Dig Up Your Old Mistakes _-[x] - Bankruptcy Law Resource
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              #36
              i like the words you use. it sounds like you are being tortured and beaten.

              'silenced' and 'freedoms and 'rights' lol.

              can you refocus on the simple point. we are a family of friends here you cant say anything you want and shouldnt out of respect for yourself as a person as well as others you are tryng to get along with.

              is that point really missed on you? does your anger ragt so hard against those that do not do as you do that you cant see that?
              Im not an attorney or a trustee. You cant trust me either though!

              [x] - Done with 341? Join the 60 Day Club! ___________[x] - Im Discharged! Whoo Hooo!
              [x] - Poll: Should I File Pro-Se ____________________[x] - New BK Law: Median Income, Means Testing and Presumptive Abuse
              [x] - Zombie Debt Collectors Dig Up Your Old Mistakes _-[x] - Bankruptcy Law Resource
              [x] - Need A Fast Answer? Available 24/7!--__________[x] - Dont Be A Hero On Your Budget - You Wont Get An Award!

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                #37
                Originally posted by bkfiler
                lol, well if you guys from the far left and far right are going to converge and hijack my topic then im outta here roflmao.

                amazing how the extremists on both sides gather to battle lol. all fighting for respect which niether truely give to one another.

                *shaking head*

                Hey at least our post count went up
                When it all boils down to it, its just numbers! Your credit score, your interest rate, your bank account, and your net worth if you're fortunate enough to have one......is your happiness really defined by numbers?

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                  #38
                  ok so you found out my secret plan!

                  opps there goes another point +1

                  Im not an attorney or a trustee. You cant trust me either though!

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by bkfiler
                    i like the words you use. it sounds like you are being tortured and beaten.

                    'silenced' and 'freedoms and 'rights' lol.

                    can you refocus on the simple point. we are a family of friends here you cant say anything you want and shouldnt out of respect for yourself as a person as well as others you are tryng to get along with.

                    is that point really missed on you? does your anger ragt so hard against those that do not do as you do that you cant see that?

                    Au contraire. As a family we should be able to say what we want without feel of consequence or harm. ON the other hand, everyone is different, and takes things much more differently, and I completely understand that.

                    The point is not missed on me, and I am not a dumbass, contrary to what you may think. Anger and rage? I don't recall being angry. I am upset with a society that makes me bow to down to whatever idea is popular at the moment, especially when I don't agree with it. I am upset with the idea that I can't voice a thought about a movie that has a subject matter that I completely disagree with. (That King Kong and a woman falling in love is just way too bizaare for me.) And I am upset that someone like yourself doesn't see that we are rapidly losing many of our great freedoms! The whole idea of tiptoeing around the tulips, is what has gotten us to this point that we are at right now. Where people are afraid to talk about how they really feel and to tell the truth all in the name of political correctness. In China and in Middle Eastern countries they are killing people who do not agree with the government, or the majority rule. How much longer until American goes this route?!

                    Now THAT does make me angry.
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                      #40
                      Originally posted by bkfiler
                      "Freedom of speech is NOT a bogus argument. I don't care if you don't like what he said. HE SAID IT, and HE HAS A RIGHT TO SAY IT. I don't care if it offends, hurts someones feelings or whatever. Your comments about the old women of this country are probably your actual thoughts. You said them, they are out in the open now, and so be it. You have a right to say it if you think it. Period. The repercussions are there, as with anything, but if we start limiting just "three little itty bitty words," imagine what will be next to be limited...."

                      yep. i thought so. how did i guess.

                      "im not an extremist"

                      sure.

                      Funny that you have nothing intelligent to say in regards to my well thought out remarks.
                      Last edited by HRx; 01-09-2006, 11:29 AM.
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                        #41
                        Last edited by robivi3; 01-08-2006, 01:37 PM.
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                          #42
                          you comments are not wanted if they are going to be hateful or extreme toward possbile members of this group.

                          do you see us making the same kind of comments. think about it. if you don't know better then maybe best for you not to post about gray areas.

                          also, we couldn't care any less about what you think regarding this topic. if you can't be friendly then keep it to yourself.
                          Im not an attorney or a trustee. You cant trust me either though!

                          [x] - Done with 341? Join the 60 Day Club! ___________[x] - Im Discharged! Whoo Hooo!
                          [x] - Poll: Should I File Pro-Se ____________________[x] - New BK Law: Median Income, Means Testing and Presumptive Abuse
                          [x] - Zombie Debt Collectors Dig Up Your Old Mistakes _-[x] - Bankruptcy Law Resource
                          [x] - Need A Fast Answer? Available 24/7!--__________[x] - Dont Be A Hero On Your Budget - You Wont Get An Award!

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                            #43
                            tinfoofrsuted,

                            i need not say much as your comments speak for themselves. they really do.
                            Im not an attorney or a trustee. You cant trust me either though!

                            [x] - Done with 341? Join the 60 Day Club! ___________[x] - Im Discharged! Whoo Hooo!
                            [x] - Poll: Should I File Pro-Se ____________________[x] - New BK Law: Median Income, Means Testing and Presumptive Abuse
                            [x] - Zombie Debt Collectors Dig Up Your Old Mistakes _-[x] - Bankruptcy Law Resource
                            [x] - Need A Fast Answer? Available 24/7!--__________[x] - Dont Be A Hero On Your Budget - You Wont Get An Award!

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                              #44
                              Originally posted by bkfiler
                              you comments are not wanted if they are going to be hateful or extreme toward possbile members of this group.

                              do you see us making the same kind of comments. think about it. if you don't know better then maybe best for you not to post about gray areas.

                              also, we couldn't care any less about what you think regarding this topic. if you can't be friendly then keep it to yourself.

                              My GOD. will you LISTEN to yourself?! Do you realize how facist and socialist you sound?!

                              Let's all say nice things to each other and play nice, shall we Jonny Boy?

                              The real world does not operate like this, and it's people who speak and think what they feel that make this world a better place.

                              Not those who want to silence and shut down those with opposing viewpoints.

                              Now to point out, I do care what Robivi thinks about Bareback Mountain......... ooops. I mean Brokeback..... I agree with many comments, and find his thoughts to be most eye-opening and fresh compared with those telling him to shut up and to be politically correct with what he says. It is terribly wrong of you to insist upon that.
                              BUSY running my own credit repair services! Sorry I don't stop in so often any more!

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                                #45

                                This is a beautiful post Robivi. Don't let anyone silence you on your thoughts and freedoms of expression.
                                BUSY running my own credit repair services! Sorry I don't stop in so often any more!

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