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IF Society broke down for any reason, War, Storm, Inserection, how would you prepare?

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  • frogger
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    One of the very first things you should buy when you can get up the $$$

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  • Samhill
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    Originally posted by IamOld View Post
    Good point - Europeans (and Japanese etc.) still remember WW2 and wish to avoid it at all costs - there is far more sense of community in these other places than here...
    Exactly. Nothing makes a society stronger than being occupied by a foreign force.

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  • IamOld
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    Good point - Europeans (and Japanese etc.) still remember WW2 and wish to avoid it at all costs - there is far more sense of community in these other places than here...

    Originally posted by Samhill View Post
    That's because Americans are spoiled. We've had it so good for so long, we've become soft and forgotten how to stand up and fight as a collective group. We've become a nation of individuals, concerned only for ourselves. As long as what we have right in front of us isn't taken away, we don't care what little freedoms are lost, one at a time. And the government keeps taking them away, little by little , without a fight.

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  • Samhill
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    Originally posted by IamOld View Post
    You know what's funny is that these discussions are NOT taking place in most countries in Europe, or Canada, or Japan...or even...China...but it does take place in the US, and I myself as I said am a pessimist...
    That's because Americans are spoiled. We've had it so good for so long, we've become soft and forgotten how to stand up and fight as a collective group. We've become a nation of individuals, concerned only for ourselves. As long as what we have right in front of us isn't taken away, we don't care what little freedoms are lost, one at a time. And the government keeps taking them away, little by little , without a fight.

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  • tobee43
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    wait...i take it back hub... (sorry you know i love ya guys).....i'm going to pandora's!!!!!!! she's so resourceful and that's exactly why we will maintain our humanity. or at least i hope so!

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  • tobee43
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    Originally posted by AngelinaCatHub View Post
    I see the coming of a cloud. Houses vacant, people selling tomatoes on card tables, yard sales all week long. We now have a hurricane coming our way. Many warnings of what to stock up on.

    My question is, what would you do to prepare for the worse? What if you could not call 911? What if the power is off with no definite time for restoration?
    What if you were actually ON YOUR OWN. What would you do, or what would you prepare to accommodate this scenario?

    I'll pipe my plans after I hear yours. 'Hub

    well, my plans are: me and hubby are going to your place...LOL!!! i know the earth, and can grow the food and you can build the roof. dh will do the hunting and fishing for food, and angelinacat will keep all the records of the world and they will be in perfect order

    seriously, we also feel like the earth plain is so off balance, we actually have felt like we are on our own for sometime. but we have cross bows and guns for hunting, i'm not crazy about road kill, but i'm a good cook, so i can mask anything. i have no problem doing whatever is needed if i had to. grow our own food, and hope we can all work together to rebuild.

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  • IamOld
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    You know what's funny is that these discussions are NOT taking place in most countries in Europe, or Canada, or Japan...or even...China...but it does take place in the US, and I myself as I said am a pessimist...

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  • IamOld
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    Originally posted by AngelinaCatHub View Post
    You have kids, that is all the reason you need to find a safe haven. There is more land than cities. A little lot in the woods would work. Near a lake is better. Having a gettaway kit might be an idea. Two weeks of light freeze dried food a good knife, first aid kit, hand weapon with ammo, and a Boy Scout Handbook. Other suggestions?? 'Hub
    Other suggestions...Canada :-) seriously.

    And, oddly, I'd feel safer back in NYC were some such thing to happen...

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  • Pandora
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    Originally posted by Meatstick View Post
    if you have something that others want they will take it by force.
    The 2nd Amendment is alive and well in our neck of the woods - they can try, but must be willing to die in the process should need be. While I would hate to take a life, if my life or my family's life is in danger - I will not hesitate to protect at all costs.

    To add to what another poster mentioned - everyone should have on-hand wind up / solar items, not just for the "worst case" scenario's but also for power outages, storms, etc. We camp alot so we already have most of the items necessary, but everyone should have on hand:

    - a wind-up powered NOAA / SAM radio,
    - wind up lights
    - a fire starter / striker
    - cache of food (staples like honey, flour, and anything dried *rice, beans, jerky, etc. While sugar is good, its heavy to carry and honey stays good forever)
    - minimum of 1 gallon of water per person per day
    - medical supplies (band-aids, peroxide, alcohol, bandages, medications, etc).
    - Start looking for alternate medications that are OTC that you can take should your RX medication not be available to you, and stock up on those items as well.
    - Learn CPR / first aid

    And for those that are hard core, you should also have:

    - book on edible plants, berries, flowers
    - book on survival strategies/techniques
    - book on homepathic / herbal remedies
    - compass
    - map(s) of area
    - water sterilization tablets / filter source (or learn how to compile your own filter source)
    - survival blankets (the ones that look like tin-foil)

    Most importantly - if you have children, teach them the basics at a minimum (how to start a fire w/out matches, how to read a map, compass, build a structure using tree branches, etc). This is good to know for everyday scenario's and will be something they can build upon. I know many adults that cannot read a compass or tell where they are when out in the woods. Its also important to know about water sources and work off the sun.

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  • Samhill
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    Originally posted by Meatstick View Post
    It doesn't matter how much you prepare, if you have something that others want they will take it by force.
    And I'm fully prepared to protect it with greater force.

    I have a generator, several 5 gallon cans of gas, plenty of bottled water, beans, rice, camping equipment and a motorhome with a bank of batteries-solar chargeable-and another generator (just in case). Hand crank radio, CB radio, and, of course, my "greater force" to protect my mobile homestead.

    Most of this stuff I didn't buy to prepare for the Rapture, I bought it because it was on sale. Gas for me is like the stock market-Buy low and in the event of a collapse of society, it'll be the currency of the times.

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  • AngelinaCatHub
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    Originally posted by frogger View Post
    'Hub, society has already broken down. They walk among us each and every day. Speak very softly my friend......
    Yes. See post 8. They are.

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  • AngelinaCatHub
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    Originally posted by IamOld View Post
    I am a pessimist. Period. Frankly, I would not like to live through such a calamity as I know very close relatives who lived through WW2 in Europe. I have no wish to do the same. However, I have kids...in addition I live in a huge metro area, where people, I expect, would turn on each other (an no it's not NYC).
    You have kids, that is all the reason you need to find a safe haven. There is more land than cities. A little lot in the woods would work. Near a lake is better. Having a gettaway kit might be an idea. Two weeks of light freeze dried food a good knife, first aid kit, hand weapon with ammo, and a Boy Scout Handbook. Other suggestions?? 'Hub

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  • frogger
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    Originally posted by AngelinaCatHub View Post
    Those marauders who would rather take than prepare are already here.
    'Hub, society has already broken down. They walk among us each and every day. Speak very softly my friend......

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  • AngelinaCatHub
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    Originally posted by Meatstick View Post
    It doesn't matter how much you prepare, if you have something that others want they will take it by force.
    Originally posted by banca rotta View Post
    I too see the storm coming.

    To answer the question don't follow the leaders. Lead yourself and build a strong community.

    We will all need each other.
    The leaders got us where we are today, and that cloud is gathering fast. When the USA has a cold, the World suffers pneumonia. I would be a leader not of others but of myself. Keeping a low profile but have enough stockpile to help another in need. That way, you build friendship, but only trust anyone lightly. If anarchy broke out and there were no police, only those who prepare and are of good character will be the ones to survive. Those marauders who would rather take than prepare are already here. We read about them and see their work on TV. There will be more if society (monetary system) breaks down. 'Hub

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  • IamOld
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    I am a pessimist. Period. Frankly, I would not like to live through such a calamity as I know very close relatives who lived through WW2 in Europe. I have no wish to do the same. However, I have kids...in addition I live in a huge metro area, where people, I expect, would turn on each other (an no it's not NYC).

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