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    Credit Card Debt Sold - Recently my credit card debt is being sold. I'm receiver letters for the banks as to whom it is being sold.

    I have been drafting letters of settlement to the various banks but getting these sold notices before I could send the proposed settlement letter.

    How are the cards playing out at this point? Can I still contact the bank? Does the bank have any ownership in the debt? Do I only contact the collection agency of company to whom the debt was sold to?

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    If the bank sold the debt, then the bank no longer owns the debt. You can attempt to settle with the purchaser of the debt. These Junk Debt Buyers, or JDBs as they are known, can be tough especially with "fresh" debt. As it ages, they may be more willing to negotiate.

    Be very careful with settling with JDBs. They are notorious for re-selling the portion that you didn't pay. For example, you settle a $2,000 debt for $1,000. The JDB sells the other $1,000 to a new JDB that demands... $1,000. If you're lucky, and there really is no luck about it, the JDB completes a Forgiveness of Debt on IRS Form 1099-C and your surprised because now you owe taxes, at your ordinary income rate, on that $1,000.

    If I were pursuing this route I may first make sure that the debt was sold (assigned) and not just listed or placed with a collection agency.
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      Yes, some being sent to collections and others letters stating we sold your debt to contact so and so.

      Also, is it true the JDB is paying 10 cents to 50 cents per hundred dollars worth of debt?

      As far as settlement, I was going to ask as part of any settlement that 1) all negative entries from our credit reports(s), jointly or singularly be removed, 2) all debt collections be stopped, 3) all debt collectors and.or agencies be notified to stop collection activities removing negative entries from our credit reports and 4) the debt be reported as "paid in full" (no deficiencies)

      Last, going this route, what is the best way to validate the debt was sold? Debt Validation Letter?

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      • #4
        Originally posted by LandOnMyFeet View Post
        Also, is it true the JDB is paying 10 cents to 50 cents per hundred dollars worth of debt?
        Even less. See my previous thread on JDBs and what they pay for the debt that the purchase.

        Originally posted by LandOnMyFeet View Post
        As far as settlement, I was going to ask as part of any settlement that 1) all negative entries from our credit reports(s), jointly or singularly be removed, 2) all debt collections be stopped, 3) all debt collectors and.or agencies be notified to stop collection activities removing negative entries from our credit reports and 4) the debt be reported as "paid in full" (no deficiencies)
        Yes, always make sure this is in a writing! Good luck with having them remove negative entries as that's a tough sell.

        Originally posted by LandOnMyFeet View Post
        Last, going this route, what is the best way to validate the debt was sold? Debt Validation Letter?
        I suppose a debt validation letter, may work, which asks that they send you a copy of the "assignment" of the debt.
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        • #5
          Originally posted by justbroke View Post
          If the bank sold the debt, then the bank no longer owns the debt. You can attempt to settle with the purchaser of the debt. These Junk Debt Buyers, or JDBs as they are known, can be tough especially with "fresh" debt. As it ages, they may be more willing to negotiate.

          Be very careful with settling with JDBs. They are notorious for re-selling the portion that you didn't pay. For example, you settle a $2,000 debt for $1,000. The JDB sells the other $1,000 to a new JDB that demands... $1,000. If you're lucky, and there really is no luck about it, the JDB completes a Forgiveness of Debt on IRS Form 1099-C and your surprised because now you owe taxes, at your ordinary income rate, on that $1,000.

          If I were pursuing this route I may first make sure that the debt was sold (assigned) and not just listed or placed with a collection agency.
          Is this stuff all debt that wasn't taken care of through BK? I have a friend who is using a settlement company to get rid of his debt and it sounds VERY shady. Like it will come back to bite him in a few years...paying 10 cents on the dollar to settle credit card debt...

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          • #6
            Before filing for bankruptcy, I found JDB almost impossible to deal with. They were rude and would call anyone they could that would be related to me. I tried settling with some of them, but it was next to impossible, and the terms were outlandish. Never ever give them your banking account information, and if paying them send in a money order. If I remember Midland was the worst for me.

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