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    The One In Which I Try to Replace My Car

    I feel like my Chapter 13 is like a loooooooooooooong book, with lots of chapters.

    So, last week my car broke. A broken rear strut. Mechanic says, $285 to replace both. And it damaged a tire when it broke, so another say $150 for a pair of tires. And $70 to tow it there -- what's that? $505.

    Yikes.

    And, a ball joint is "going" in the front. About $400 for that -- I replaced the other front one last year. And every now and then, the oil light comes on at idle after it's been running for awhile. Last year I put in a new "oil sending unit" -- whatever that is -- but now it's doing the same thing again. Another oil sending unit or something more sinister? Who knows? So I think that's maybe $200.

    And it's got some 165,000 miles on it -- I drive a lot -- round trip is almost 100 miles a day for work.

    So I call the lawyer -- what happens if you need to replace your car? He says, you go out, you secure financing, you tell the bank or the car dealer your situation, and then make whatever deal you want -- then you call us back and tell us the year, make, purchase price, payment amount, term, and interest rate you are getting. Then, we submit it to the trustee as a motion to incur non-emergency debt, and if it's all reasonable, he approves it in about 10 days.

    I call car places. I have two possible car dealership loans. One, the interest rate is in the high 20's! and they want me to trade the old car. Well, I don't see how that is going to work, because it's still financed, but in the bankruptcy, in a cram down. So I have to call the lawyer and see what he thinks about that -- he did say something about just surrendering it.

    And the other is through 722 Redemption. I don't know what the interest rate is, and the lady I am working with there gave me a list of cars to look at on the website -- none of them seemed too appealing, I have to say. Things like Ford Focus's. Grand Am's. Tauraus's. I left that paper at work -- so I can't even consider them further over the weekend.

    I have to call the other lady back from the other dealership -- she works at a dealership but is part of a loan company -- so she says that I wouldn't have to get a car from that dealership. I don't know what that interest rate is or what her thoughts are on the current (broke down) car.

    And, the 1st guy I spoke with -- who so far has been the most detailed -- said that I'd need the tax and the licensing stuff to be paid up front -- so that's about $1,000. Do-able in a month, probably. Meanwhile, I am driving / sharing my daughter's old beater Volvo, vintage 1986. It's a tank.

    Which is about what it would be to fix my current car. This time.

    My concern is -- what if I fix it and some other major thing goes wrong, like a transmission? A whole engine?? Like, if that oil light IS something more sinister, like -- I don't know what, but something bad.

    The good thing would be, a tiny step toward re-establishing good credit by having a positive tradeline.

    The bad thing would be, another payment. For a used car.

    Any thoughts?

    I am surprised, actually, I was approved -- but the interest rate! Wow. Shocking. Understandable, but shocking.

    Please let me know what you think.

    Thanks!

    #2
    You're in a tough spot, CSO. You're experiencing one of the many reasons that Ch 13 filers so often have difficulty staying the course for the length of their court-mandated plan. Stuff happens like car breakdowns, unexpected house repairs, big appliance replacement, etc that cost more money than we can scrape together when our plans take all of our disposable money for years on end. In Ch 13, we have so few realistic options to deal effectively with these kinds of standard everyday financial problems. Keep us posted on what you decide to do, ok?
    I am not a lawyer and this is not legal advice nor a statement of the law - only a lawyer can provide those.

    06/01/06 - Filed Ch 13
    06/28/06 - 341 Meeting
    07/18/06 - Confirmation Hearing - not confirmed, 3 objections
    10/05/06 - Hearing to resolve 2 trustee objections
    01/24/07 - Judge dismisses mortgage company objection
    09/27/07 - Confirmed at last!
    06/10/11 - Trustee confirms all payments made
    08/10/11 - DISCHARGED !

    10/02/11 - CASE CLOSED
    Countdown: 60 months paid, 0 months to go

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      #3
      We're not Ch 13 and we're going thru the same thing, CSO. Old beater cars. Seems like every month brings a new repair or maintenance item on one of them.

      They're what I call "County Cars". You wouldn't wanna leave the county in any one of them for fear they might break down and leave you stranded.

      Add to that, we don't have a car big enough for the whole family to go anywhere together. If we have a family event here in town, we HAVE to take 2 cars. If it's an out of town thing like a wedding or funeral, we have to rent a car to go.

      BUT, there's simply no room in the budget for a car payment. Let alone the insurance premium, gas, repairs, etc. We just keep on repairing the old beaters and making due.
      Filed Ch 7 - 09/06
      Discharged - 12/2006
      Officially Declared No Asset - 03/2007
      Closed - 04/2007

      I am not an attorney. My comments are based on personal experience and research. Always consult an attorney in your area to address concerns related to your particular situation.

      Another good thing about being poor is that when you are seventy your children will not have declared you legally insane in order to gain control of your estate. - Woody Allen...

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        #4
        I'm there right now. Jeep with 190K+ miles on it, and I don't think it'll last anohter 1K miles. I'm saving for a motorcycle ($2k? $3k?) for my "around town" vehicle, but I don't think that'll cut it. I'm doing OK 6 months into my 5 year payback, but the vehicle is my single greatest concern at this time. I'm working on the assumption that I can't get a loan for a new car, so I'm just working on getting side jobs to build up a little nest-egg.

        It just takes perseverence and a willingness to stay away from the stupid stuff. We'll see what happens. A loan would be great, but I know it ain't gonna happen, so why bother?
        09/13/06: -- C13 filed with Courts
        12/04/06: -- Plan confirmed!
        Payments left: -- 38

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          #5
          Update

          I am having it towed tomorrow to the mechanic.

          It's just been sitting in this parking lot of this place where it broke down. I had called them and said, it's my car, I will get it towed away. So I at least have to do that before they do it for me, and then I'd have to pay to get it out....or who even knows what would happen then?

          And it may as well go to the mechanic rather than be towed to my house -- at least then I will have a real estimate to fix it.

          Meanwhile, I haven't talked to any of the finance companies I had been working with. I did hear from roadloans.com that they could not approve my loan at this time because I was in an active bankruptcy case. So there are still the others I had mentioned in my previous post.

          I won't have to pay for the towing, either, until I settle up with the mechanic, as long as I use the tow service they contract with.

          So, that's that for now -- I'll let you know how things are going.

          cat

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