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    Teacher salary - just have to vent

    So, I got a pre-confirmation status report from the trustee Saturday requesting some information. No big deal. Then I read these items.

    "Amend the Means Test Line 50a to correct amount of the plan payment."

    "Debtor is requesting a Means Test Waiver but has not adjusted expenses to reflect no need for summer daycare."

    This is what frustrates me and why I have to vent. My wife is a teacher. In our district, teachers can elect to take full pay during school and nothing over the summer, or have a defferment to have income over the summer. The latter is what my wife elected. Here's the kicker, no benefits are taken out over the summer because they've all been paid during the school term. The result is that over the summer my wife's checks are about $600 higher. She also usually works summer school as well.

    Our 6 month look-back includes that extra summer amount as well as her working summer school. So, if our plan is based on my wife's salary at a higher than normal rate and averaged over 12 months and additional hours for summer school, how on earth would we afford a higher payment with her not working summer school? In addition, she intends to work summer school indefinitely to help out the budget. This was all brought up in the 341. So isn't working summer school justification for daycare expenses during the summer?

    I know it's just some numbers formula. But, shouldn't these situations, as discussed at the 341 be noted in the trustees office? I just hate being treated as a number in the system after already giving all of this personal information and circumstances to the trustee. I mean you can't tell me that no teacher has ever filed for bk and no one is familiar with situations like this.

    Needless to say, I have a call in to our lawyer, but I'm just frustrated.
    Filed 13 on 10/23/2012 -341 on 12/17/2012 (Happy Birthday to me!)
    Confirmed 2/6/2013 (Happy Anniversary!)
    I'd be almost done if I hadn't tried the debt settlement program first.

    #2
    The plan should be based on look forward income, perhaps with a temporary step up or down to address summer fluctuations.

    I'm guessing your plan payment proposal was based on your wife not working summer school but still included daycare year-round. That would naturally send up a flag, I imagine. Talk to your attorney about what needs to be done to amend.
    ~Staci
    Not an attorney, and never played one on tv. My responses are based on my own experiences & personal opinions.)

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      #3
      Oh, we told everyone up front that she would be working summers. Everyone seems confused about this from the trustee to the lawyers assistants and paras... It's not that confusing for me.
      Filed 13 on 10/23/2012 -341 on 12/17/2012 (Happy Birthday to me!)
      Confirmed 2/6/2013 (Happy Anniversary!)
      I'd be almost done if I hadn't tried the debt settlement program first.

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        #4
        Telling everyone, and your attorney properly documenting it in your petition, might not be the same thing. What does your petition show for income on Schedule I? (Or is J income - I get these two mixed up.)
        ~Staci
        Not an attorney, and never played one on tv. My responses are based on my own experiences & personal opinions.)

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          #5
          Originally posted by SMinGA2 View Post
          Telling everyone, and your attorney properly documenting it in your petition, might not be the same thing. What does your petition show for income on Schedule I? (Or is J income - I get these two mixed up.)
          Good point and the correct schedule.
          LadyInTheRed is in the black!
          Filed Chap 13 April 2010. Discharged May 2015.
          $143,000 in debt discharged for $36,500, including attorneys fees. Money well spent!

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            #6
            Schedule I shows her income, including summer school and professional development stipends (that aren't always there). It show my income, including amounts from 1099s for programs that are not always paid to me (and definitely not on a monthly basis). So, I'm just confused how they would expect us to pay more when our gross wages included stuff we may not alway get paid for.

            I can understand a little about the confusion on daycare, but I don't see anything that should warrant an increase in payment. Unless that was based on not needing summer day care. Regardless, my attorney is supposed to be handling it.

            Just a little over a week before confirmation, so, I've got fingers crossed.
            Filed 13 on 10/23/2012 -341 on 12/17/2012 (Happy Birthday to me!)
            Confirmed 2/6/2013 (Happy Anniversary!)
            I'd be almost done if I hadn't tried the debt settlement program first.

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              #7
              Might be a situation of the trustee assuming she doesn't work summers - but something your attorney should be able to clear up.
              ~Staci
              Not an attorney, and never played one on tv. My responses are based on my own experiences & personal opinions.)

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