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    New to forum...questions re: Relief of Stay for home

    Hello to all,
    I'm new to posting here, but have been lurking for the past few months. I've learned alot here in hopes of keeping our Ch. 7 filing short & sweet. Here's the short version of our "tale of woe".

    We are a blended family, 4 kids. We have been married 5 years. Oldest child (my son) graduated high school last year, and is spending a year in Europe. We are NOT funding his year abroad. He will return late this summer to begin college here. Son #2 (his son) lives with us, and is a junior in high school. Child #3, aged 14 (his daughter) lives with her Mom out of state (for now...but thinking of moving here for high school). Child #4 (our late in life surprise blessing...4 years old) lives with us, of course.

    We have about $55K in debt, mostly cc, but also some back taxes that my husband owed from 1996. He has been paying on these all along, and is currently down to about $6K.

    Our household income decreased by ~$17K/year about a year ago, when our oldest graduated high school and child support stopped.

    Since then, we have increasingly relied on credit cards, juggling payment dates, transferring balances, etc. to get by. Around the first of the year, we realized that our luck was just running out. After some agonizing discussions, and meeting with a few attorneys, we decided to file BK (done 4/7/07). Initially, we thought we would have to go 13, but our attorney has managed to get a 7, with "NO PRESUMPTION OF ABUSE". Our 341 is scheduled for June 6. I'm nervous, but after reading many posts here, it sounds fairly painless and straight forward.

    So........here's the BIG PROBLEM (maybe?):

    Today our "Notice of Case, Meeting of Creditors, & Deadlines" form arrived. In a separate envelope a MOTION FOR RELIEF FROM THE AUTOMATIC STAY for our home also arrived. This states that at the time they (mortgage co) filed this (4/12), we were behind for our March 1st payment. It also states that we have no equity because the value is 186,000 and we owe 187,000. We were indeed late with the March Payment ( it was sent out 4/9) because we used those funds to pay our BK attorney to file. We intend on keeping our home (for now) and will be current before our 341 meeting. BTW, our lenders are Chase & Ocwen for our mortgage. We refi'd a couple years ago for 100%, to get cash out for some other debts.

    So....I guess the BIG QUESTIONS are:
    1. Do we need to do anything other than get current on our mortgage to avoid any trouble with our lender, or does this Motion for Relief from Stay mean they want to foreclose?

    2. Should I receive a copy of the list of creditors that my attorney included? And when?

    3. When will our phones stop ringing off the hook? Our biggest creditors are: IRS, Discover, Citi, HSBC.

    4. Will we FINALLY be able to actually get our income tax returns??? For the past 5 years, any tax refund we were expecting has been applied to my husbands IRS tax bill from 1996. Attorney says that will be included in the CH7, because of the age of the debt.

    Thanks in advance for any advice or comments, especially with regards to the house/mortgage. This forum has already helped me understand lots of this mess....

    Hoping for brighter skies ahead....
    Last edited by brokeinmichigan; 04-14-2007, 07:52 PM. Reason: additional info
    4/7/07 Filed Ch7 :unsure:
    6/6/07 341 meeting done :blink:
    8/5/07 last day for objections :yes2:
    8/23/07 DISCHARGED!!! :yahoo::yahoo::yahoo:

    #2
    Welcome to BK Forum, BIM! Glad you decided to come out of lurk mode and join the discussions!

    So....I guess the BIG QUESTIONS are:
    1. Do we need to do anything other than get current on our mortgage to avoid any trouble with our lender, or does this Motion for Relief from Stay mean they want to foreclose?
    See my posts from today regarding our mortgage company and what we had to do to resolve a relief of stay situation very similar to yours - http://www.bankruptcyforum.com/showthread.php?t=13663

    2. Should I receive a copy of the list of creditors that my attorney included? And when?
    Your lawyer should send you xerox copies of your filing papers in the mail within a week or so. If he/she filed your case electronically, you can check your case on PACER now before the paper copies arrive. Check the Sticky on What Is PACER? for how to go about doing that - http://www.bankruptcyforum.com/showthread.php?t=1011

    3. When will our phones stop ringing off the hook? Our biggest creditors are: IRS, Discover, Citi, HSBC.
    Now that you have filed, answer the phone and give each creditor your lawyer's name, contact information, and your case number. The calls must instantly stop from that creditor when you provide that information. Keep a notepad handy and write down each company, who you talked to, and the date and time.

    You may continue to get calls for several weeks as the bk notifications wind their way through each company's internal divisions. Just keep giving out your lawyer's information and your case number, and writing down who you talk with. The calls will decrease dramatically very quickly. After a month, there should be no more calls from anyone - blessed quiet at last!
    I am not a lawyer and this is not legal advice nor a statement of the law - only a lawyer can provide those.

    06/01/06 - Filed Ch 13
    06/28/06 - 341 Meeting
    07/18/06 - Confirmation Hearing - not confirmed, 3 objections
    10/05/06 - Hearing to resolve 2 trustee objections
    01/24/07 - Judge dismisses mortgage company objection
    09/27/07 - Confirmed at last!
    06/10/11 - Trustee confirms all payments made
    08/10/11 - DISCHARGED !

    10/02/11 - CASE CLOSED
    Countdown: 60 months paid, 0 months to go

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      #3
      It can easily take a couple of weeks for Creditors to get notification of your filing. Many of the Biggies get notified Electronically. But the Court also send out letters to them as well.

      Follow Lrprn's suggestion. Give them your attny's name, contact info, and case number when they call. Your phone should stop wringing soon.

      We got a complete packet of our BK filing back from our attny. You'll probably get yours within a couple of weeks. Should be before your 341 Meeting.

      You're gonna have to ask your attny about the house situation. Different Trustees handle that in different ways. Some, if you're caught up by the 341, everything is OK. Others can make it a bit rough on you. Your attny will best know how to advise you in that area.
      Filed Ch 7 - 09/06
      Discharged - 12/2006
      Officially Declared No Asset - 03/2007
      Closed - 04/2007

      I am not an attorney. My comments are based on personal experience and research. Always consult an attorney in your area to address concerns related to your particular situation.

      Another good thing about being poor is that when you are seventy your children will not have declared you legally insane in order to gain control of your estate. - Woody Allen...

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