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    90 Day Rule?

    Is there a significance to not using credit cards 90 days prior to filing?

    #2
    A big one - Never use a credit card, especially for big expensive purchases 90 days or less before filing. Creditors will have a good reason to object to the dischargeability of debts like that, and any creditor friendlyasskissing trustee will side with them. A tank of gas here and there, a meal or two at a coffee shop can slide by, but nothing major except maybe a doctor's/hospital bill that is not paid by your insurance, or if you don't have any health insurance.

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      #3
      Originally posted by GeorgiaFarmer View Post
      Is there a significance to not using credit cards 90 days prior to filing?
      After 90 days the burden of proving that you charged fraudulently knowing you were going to file shifts from you to your creditor. Since it's hard for a creditor to prove intent, it's to your advantage to not charge for 90 days before filing.
      I am not a lawyer and this is not legal advice nor a statement of the law - only a lawyer can provide those.

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        #4
        Originally posted by lrprn View Post
        After 90 days the burden of proving that you charged fraudulently knowing you were going to file shifts from you to your creditor. Since it's hard for a creditor to prove intent, it's to your advantage to not charge for 90 days before filing.

        Hello..Why is the rule only 70 days for cash advances? Seems strange to me. Thank you.

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          #5
          Originally posted by inhocknow View Post
          Hello..Why is the rule only 70 days for cash advances? Seems strange to me. Thank you.
          I don't really know why...but keep in mind, the 90 day rule for use of consumer credit only applies to non-necessities. The 70 day rule for cash advances has no such restriction. Any cash advance, regardless of the purpose for which you take it out, will be presumed fraudulent.

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            #6
            So, you can take out cash, but it's considered fraudulent if you do? If that's the case, why would they tell you that you can take the cash out in the first place?

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              #7
              It is only fraudulent if you file bankruptcy before 70 days is up from the time you take the cash advance. It is harder to prove you ONLY used the cash for necessity items. Charges can be traced to the exact use.
              Sometimes life make you deal with ugly and hateful people ,just think of them as sand paper. They may scratch you and rub you the wrong way but eventually you end up smooth and polished and the sand paper becomes old and worn out.

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