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    Considering BK - medical bills + CC debt

    Hey folks

    We've been considering bankruptcy lately. We always ran the edge of being financially OK, I normally had about 5-7k in CC debt and other bills. We got married (and rang up a bunch of debt to do it) by going to Las Vegas...debt climbed to about 10k at this point (about 700 credit rating). Paid down some debt, got a mortgage, things were good. Then my wife got pregnant.

    At the time we had no health insurance as it would have cost about $100 a week when I was making about $400 a week. There were tons of complications (Vasia Previa amongst other things).

    Luckily I hired into the company I was temping at and got benefits before the birth. Still, we had about 12k in medical bills prior to getting insurance.

    My wife ended up going back to school for her M.A. I'm still in school working on my B.S. We tried to juggle baby, my fulltime work, my halftime school, her fulltime school, her part time job. It was too much. We had her quit her job last fall. She went back over the summer part-time. We had our 2nd child just a month ago. So we've got a 22mo old and a 1mo old.

    Our debt load doubled to about 20k in the last year since she stopped working (she used to account for 15k/yr or so). It doesn't make sense to have her make $9/hr and have someone babysit our children for pretty much close to that. I make about 40k/yr with my bonus included.

    I find the budget is beginning to collapse under the weight of 2 kids. I think this will be the first month I don't see how to pay all the bills. We've got a total of about 20k in various CC debt, including 0% CCs used to buy furniture, lawnmower (hard to mow over an acre with a pushmower!), etc. The medical bills are about 10-12k and one of them already filed suit against us.

    I've been reading the forum here and absorbing details. I plan on calling a BK lawyer in the next few days to see where to go.

    The only assets we really have:

    Car worth about 4k with about 4k in debt on it. Ditto on the wife's car. House has about 9k in equity in it. Some video game systems and a couple of (not state of the art) computers. About $2k in home theater/HDTV/etc accumulated over the years.

    The monthly budget - I make about 2k after taxes/benefits/etc. $825 to the mortgage, $330 + $150 + $150 insurance for cars, that's $1550 of it right there. Then we have about $600 in CCs and other debt, plus utilities (2 cellphones instead of landline, cable, electric, etc). I don't see how I can possibly make it work much longer.

    The only asset I was worried about was my wife's DVD collection. My wife has a lot of DVDs. About 800 or so she bought over the years, she's a movie freak. I saw references to collections mentioned as problematic.

    I guess I'm just looking for a little comments and guidance. And what about a big DVD collection, is that at risk? I don't see that it could be worth that much really but it's the only big ticket item (compiled together) that is.

    I could maybe have dug us out of the CC debt without the added medical bills suing us. That was just the proverbial straw.
    Last edited by GreenMonkey; 10-08-2007, 06:22 PM.

    #2
    Welcome to BK Forum, GM - glad you found us! You aren't alone with unexpected medical bills overwhelming your ability to pay in a fairly short period of time.

    With a suit already filed by one of your medical creditors, you need to decide about the bankruptcy as soon as possible. What's the hearing date for the suit?

    There's one crucial piece of information you didn't give us....which state do you live in?

    Originally posted by GreenMonkey View Post
    plan on calling a BK lawyer in the next few days to see where to go.
    Make appointments immediately to talk to 3-4 bk lawyers in your area as soon as possible. Tell them you already have a suit filed against you - that will speed up seeing the lawyers. You'll find that bk lawyers vary in how they interpret situations, plus you want to find one you feel comfortable with and can work with to file.

    The only asset I was worried about was my wife's DVD collection. My wife has a lot of DVDs. About 800 or so she bought over the years, she's a movie freak. I saw references to collections mentioned as problematic.
    Collections may be problematic, but only if the collection has significant value. My guess is the resale value on 800 DVDs is low enough (under $1000 if you sold them at a garage sale) to not worry about - you can roll these into your household goods value if you end up filing.

    Once you share which state you live in, we'll be able to chime in with more information about house, cars, etc. Hang in there - we'll help you sort things out as best we can.
    Last edited by lrprn; 10-08-2007, 08:27 PM.
    I am not a lawyer and this is not legal advice nor a statement of the law - only a lawyer can provide those.

    06/01/06 - Filed Ch 13
    06/28/06 - 341 Meeting
    07/18/06 - Confirmation Hearing - not confirmed, 3 objections
    10/05/06 - Hearing to resolve 2 trustee objections
    01/24/07 - Judge dismisses mortgage company objection
    09/27/07 - Confirmed at last!
    06/10/11 - Trustee confirms all payments made
    08/10/11 - DISCHARGED !

    10/02/11 - CASE CLOSED
    Countdown: 60 months paid, 0 months to go

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      #3
      Sounds like you are a good candidate. I'd see 3-4 lawyers in your area and explore your options.

      As lrprn says a DVD collection is not worth that much. In a yard sale you might get 50 cents to a dollar each.
      May 31st, 2007: Petition Filed by my lawyer
      July 2nd, 2007: 341 Meeting Held
      September 4th, 2007: Discharged and Closed.

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        #4
        Thanks for the input folks.

        I guess there was a date to show up but we didn't (I should say my wife didn't, since the bills are in her name). What are we gonna do, they are legitimately our bills. No word yet on collecting on the debt (about $1800) beyond the court paper telling us about the judgement against us.

        We're in Michigan BTW

        I'm planning on calling someone up this week. But I work fulltime + school parttime plus baby keeping me up all night...so haven't gotten it done yet.

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          #5
          First thing you need to do is open a bank account in just your name. If you have a joint account, you run the risk of waking up one morning and finding it levied by the judgment creditor.

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            #6
            Originally posted by keepmine View Post
            First thing you need to do is open a bank account in just your name. If you have a joint account, you run the risk of waking up one morning and finding it levied by the judgment creditor.
            My wife never did got onto my account were most of the money and stuff goes through. She bounced some checks some years ago and the C.U. wouldn't put her on my account until she resolved it.

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              #7
              Good luck GreenMonkey! You have come to the right place for opinions and support!

              One thing is very good, that you recognize your problems right at this stage, and you are planning. One thing I've heard over and over is "I wish I had only done it sooner."

              Keep us informed!
              Filed Ch. 7 June 14, 2007
              341 Meeting July 19, 2007
              Discharged September 17, 2007
              Closed September 17, 2007

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