Adversary Procedure

[AngelinaCatHub]

[justbroke]

All I can say is... wow.

(Really... that's all I can say.)

[PoorGrammyinBK7]

Hub,

Was he a creditor in your BK? I am unclear as to where the court would take place on this -- BK court? If so, maybe you would be better off letting it go to the BK judge. Of course I do not know all the facts of the case, but I think the BK judge would tend to rule in your favor.

[AngelinaCatHub]

No Grammy, it is wired for the 'creditor'. This person is not a creditor as such. He only has an open lawsuit, and is speculating on winning the case in the future. The BK court assumes that everything stated by the 'creditor' is in fact true. So that is an unfair advantage. Also, we are pro se and trying to do this ourselves because we have NO MONEY. So we are at an unfair advantage there.

In the State Court, we have a lawyer that will work with us and take payments, whereas, anyone else we have approached, wants all the money up front.

[AngelinaCatHub]

To make this clearer, I listed it as pending suit. They sat on it for five years and the last 17 months had no action until the “Suggestion of Bankruptcy” was sent to them. Then all hell broke loose. They have no Judgment, no contract, no agreement, no levy, no nothing. They have an “untried” case. The problem is that the Court takes Jurisdiction over the State in this. I am, have, attempted to, with other Motions, to have the Judge, who BTW is our bk Judge, kick it back to State. Otherwise, I am afraid that I will have to plead to the Court that I shall not admit nor deny, but will relinquish to the Court their Judgment. Otherwise there is a far fetched chance that this guy could put it up three floors to Federal Felony Court as a computer crime.

There have been several people who in the past have wondered where or why all this came about. All I can say is, FORUMS. Now that being said is not withstanding this wonderful place. If anyone wished to see the worst of the worst, PM me and I shall give a link to the bad place. Of course there is more to this, but that is a good starting place. ‘Hub

[AngelinaCatHub]

[PoorGrammyinBK7]

I guess I just do not understand why you would"give them the judgment", nor why the case goes on if it was included in BK. I have no answers regarding the Jetta. Sorry.

[Overmylimit]

I guess I could just pop him off, but I also heard that was frowned on by the law.

Hub, I know a guy who knows a guy.......

[Overmylimit]

So with the outragious amount they are asking for he just wants to make sure you never, ever have another free penny in your lifetime. I can't stand when I see these kind of ridiculous wants for unrealistic amounts of money. I hope you beat this guy.

[AngelinaCatHub]

I guess I just do not understand why you would"give them the judgment", nor why the case goes on if it was included in BK. I have no answers regarding the Jetta. Sorry.

They took out and Adversary Proceding on our bk. They wish to see me in prison. This guy is a lune, and has money. It was and open stale civil case, now brought before the Federal Court. I will capitulate and allow their judgment becouse I have no money to defend myself and the lawyers could spin this into a cyber crime. Everything I have is protected by Trust, and our home is a Life Estate that they can't touch. The car is in our name and is worth more than a $1000 exemption. 'Hub

[AngelinaCatHub]

So with the outragious amount they are asking for he just wants to make sure you never, ever have another free penny in your lifetime. I can't stand when I see these kind of ridiculous wants for unrealistic amounts of money. I hope you beat this guy.

He will levy, attach, writ, garnish, till the day he or we die. PM me and I'll send you a link to his Kell 'Hub forum. Look at the archive as the forum is broken and won't take pictures anymore. I got blamed for hacking it also. 'Hub

Let me think on that .....guy.... how knows a guy...

[jdphillips73]

why is he sueing, what did you do or were alleged to do?

[AngelinaCatHub]

why is he sueing, what did you do or were alleged to do?

I hacked his computer supposedly. This is bigger than it looks as he got us investigated by the local police, FDLE, FBI. One of his partners was a detective on the police department and was caught making evidence. An email came to me in my email of a copy of his email stating he wished to have my employer fire me. I spammed it all over the world.

So evidence fixing and the fact of lack of creditable evidence kept this out of criminal but in civil at is a preponderance so there is enough animosity of the past between us that a reason could be shown (motive) and the bk court always sides with the plaintiff as per the Judge. They assume the worst and then a mini trial. I don't have a chance except I am uncollectable in a judgment except for the single car. I will burn the car before I surrender it to that person.