I'm Livid, bank talking to boss, what can I do?

[nervousss]

Make sure you literally forward that email to a home address. A tech person can analyze it if needed and show that it did in fact come from his email address, just in case they make the email "dissapear".

This whole situation sounds bad. I don't think you'll be able to be comfortable at that job again after your bk. I would start looking now for something new.

[jeb]

Are you referring to that referee in the NBA who got caught betting on games? He's the only whistleblower I recall reading about.

Why is O'bama's election relevant to the OP's concern about collusion between this bank and his employer?

No, ohio, I was not talking about some referee but a number of different whistleblowers over the last 8 years which were hung out to dry after they did so.

And if you go back and re-read the posts, my comment was ref the whistleblower comment - relevant, I think. - jb

[OhioFiler]

Irrelevant?

Will you please name me one single whistleblower who was protected under the past 8 years? - jb

Are you referring to that referee in the NBA who got caught betting on games? He's the only whistleblower I recall reading about.

Why is O'bama's election relevant to the OP's concern about collusion between this bank and his employer?

[jeb]

Another of your fine irrelevant posts completely unrelated to the topic at hand.

Irrelevant?

Will you please name me one single whistleblower who was protected under the past 8 years? - jb

[OhioFiler]

And we might have an administration in office that will actually abide by the law and protect you. - jb

Another of your fine irrelevant posts completely unrelated to the topic at hand.

[NoMoreRed]

Yes privacy laws do protect a person when going to HR, but I'd still be careful. The biggest and best point that Flamingo stated is to document, document, document. If you have very good documentation of any issues that have been discussed or occurred then that becomes really good evidence in court. I sat on the HR side of the table on several occasions in court and saw first hand that the documentation had a big part of the judges decision.

[Flamingo]

I don't know, but I would still be careful going to HR for this as well. HR personnel are afterall hired by, paid by and work for the company. I know they are there for the employees, but one of their tasks usually involve keeping the company out of hot water when it comes to employee issues. Just be cautious.

Privacy laws protect one with HR. In fact, it may be necessary to document issues with HR in order to protect oneself. i.e., sexual harrassment by your supervisor; where do you go first, to HR or the lawyer? Unless you took your information first to HR to document the matter, you might not have much of a leg to stand on. Review your employee handbook and company policies in place. Another thing to do is keep a journal as to things as they occur; phone calls and what was discussed (date/time), emails, conversations, etc.

[NoMoreRed]

I don't know, but I would still be careful going to HR for this as well. HR personnel are afterall hired by, paid by and work for the company. I know they are there for the employees, but one of their tasks usually involve keeping the company out of hot water when it comes to employee issues. Just be cautious.

[jeb]

I suggest you review the "Whistleblower" laws put in effect in the past several years.

And we might have an administration in office that will actually abide by the law and protect you. - jb

[Nextgen]

Sorry for the double post, it was too late to edit.

Had a great talk with the president of my company!

Told him I would not be having this conversation if the banker had not called him but since he had, I was not ignoring the issue. I explained that this issue was one I needed to address in the long term, no more loans to pay loans each with longer and longer terms.

He assured me he had NO knowledge of anyone taking part of my bonus but agreed the amount distributed was wrong by the amount in question. I asked him not to get involved in this part either, I would handle it.

[Nextgen]

Nextgen - I know what I am talking about as I have a heavy corporate background. There are folks in your organization that keep track of all stock and if shares are being held by a bank as you describe above as to your loan, they can be kept apprised as to what is going on as to company shares and since you are already a stockholder and an employee, you need to check out what they do in that instance. Review bylaws, your employment contract, everything and if your claim to purchase stock under duress is true, and you suspect something is going on internally as to stock purchases in your company, like I mentioned previously, there are steps you can take to protect yourself. I don't know your position in the company or how high up you are but review the recent whistleblower laws. Also, you are under financial duress right now and have that pressure on top of whatever is going on at work so watch your step and don't get yourself fired trying to prove something that may not be what you think it is....You can always go and report this to HR and get it on the record confidentially - they cannot divulge the information and that is the best thing to do at this point. In fact, that is usually the first step taken in situations such as this where there could be an employment issue involved.

Great advice, I need to take a step back and calm down. It's an employment at will state so I'm in a tough place to start, which is why besides my years of excellent reviews I wanted my Boss (COO) on record saying my performance is excellent. At the very least, when I file it should buy me some time to look for another job since they would be silly to immediately fire me. If I can buy a year or two while the compile their case to fire me I will find another job. I haven't even confronted them re the bonus issue yet, I'll wait until my pay stub arrives next week, then ask for a reciept for the funds they took. If they didn't take the funds and the bank intercepted, I'll contact the bank for a reciept, calm and cool.

Thanks for the talk down

[Flamingo]

To add to my recordings today. Another employee (officer of company) who does not know about my situation saying he is constantly being pressured to take out loan to purchase stock from the same bank as a implied condition of employment. Says on the tape he's been asked 100 times and gets constant remarks.

Nextgen - I know what I am talking about as I have a heavy corporate background. There are folks in your organization that keep track of all stock and if shares are being held by a bank as you describe above as to your loan, they can be kept apprised as to what is going on as to company shares and since you are already a stockholder and an employee, you need to check out what they do in that instance. Review bylaws, your employment contract, everything and if your claim to purchase stock under duress is true, and you suspect something is going on internally as to stock purchases in your company, like I mentioned previously, there are steps you can take to protect yourself. I don't know your position in the company or how high up you are but review the recent whistleblower laws. Also, you are under financial duress right now and have that pressure on top of whatever is going on at work so watch your step and don't get yourself fired trying to prove something that may not be what you think it is....You can always go and report this to HR and get it on the record confidentially - they cannot divulge the information and that is the best thing to do at this point. In fact, that is usually the first step taken in situations such as this where there could be an employment issue involved.

[Chowder]

Talk about letting your family down, who trusted me.

You are not letting your family down. You would be if you let things go without protecting what you can. Sounds like you are taking steps to do that.

Regarding your employer/banking situation. Like you said, they have "connections". They likely will continue to long after your are gone. I'd tread lightly there.

It is amazing what these banks will stoop to. I was 30 days late with Am Ex and they called my sisters father-in-law, to pump him for info.

[Nextgen]

Hmmmm...since this is company stock related your company may be kept apprise of what is going on as to their stock and if this bank is holding your stock, and you have not paid on the loan, they may have had to inform your company of the situation. You mention you had to take out a loan to obtain this stock under "duress." I suggest you review the "Whistleblower" laws put in effect in the past several years.

To add to my recordings today. Another employee (officer of company) who does not know about my situation saying he is constantly being pressured to take out loan to purchase stock from the same bank as a implied condition of employment. Says on the tape he's been asked 100 times and gets constant remarks.

[Nextgen]

Trip to Radio Shack- phone line recorder earphone, digital recorder, placed calls on my cell so there would be a call length to match my recording length.

Both States 1 party recording legal.

30 minute conversation with my boss, recorded asking specifically if he's happy with my work, does my current review of excellent performance reflect his true view of my work, am I part of long term plans for company, as I'm making big decisions of how to address the loan (I'm sure he know about), should I worry about my future employment for any reason.

All positive answers to the questions above, stored on device, home computer, backed up on Mozy.

Planning 2 more "conversations" over the next week. I'm done getting walked on.