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    1099-A /Rental Property/BK/non recourse state AZ/no 1099-C

    Please advise.
    If the rental properties were discharged in BK and no 1099-C

    I do not understand why I would have to enter info from a 1099-A

    #2
    I don't think you have to do anything with the 1099-A, only if you would have gotten the 1099-C. Do a searcg and you will see many posts on this topic.

    Good luck !!

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      #3
      Originally posted by Meatstick View Post
      I don't think you have to do anything with the 1099-A, only if you would have gotten the 1099-C. Do a searcg and you will see many posts on this topic.

      Good luck !!
      No schedule E either?

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        #4
        You still need to address the 1099-A. The 1099-A relates to whether you had a capital gain/loss. Now, it would be very odd to have a capital gain on foreclosure, but you still must do the calculation.

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          #5
          What to Do With Form 1099-A? Edit Blog Entry
          Rating: 3 votes, 5.00 average.

          What to Do With Form 1099-A?


          Saturday February 27, 2010


          " When a house is foreclosed upon by the bank, the owners typically receive Form 1099-A from the lender showing several pieces of relevant information. The information on Form 1099-A will likely be needed to report the foreclosure properly on your tax return. A foreclosure is treated as the sale of property, and the former property owner will need to calculate their gain or loss on the property. But unlike a normal sale, there's no "selling price," and this is where the Form 1099-A comes into play. What to do with the information found on Form 1099-A has been asked by a number of readers, including "IcelandorBust," who posted this query on the message boards:

          "Our home was foreclosed on in July 2009. The bank sold it to a new owner in November 2009. We received a 1099-A in January. We have not received a 1099-C. I have been unable to find a concrete answer as to what to do with the 1099-A."

          Under the rules for calculating the tax consequences of a foreclosure, the taxpayer will need figure out the "selling price" so that gain or loss can be calculating. Depending on the type of loan, the taxpayer will utilize either the fair market value of the property or the outstanding loan balance on the property for the selling price. Both of these figures are reported on Form 1099-A. The outstanding loan balance is found in Box 2; the property's fair market value is found in Box 4. The date of the foreclosure is indicated in Box 1, and this will be used as the date the property was disposed of (that is, the "sale date"). Taxpayers will also need to know if the loan was a recourse or a non-recourse loan; the loan was probably a recourse loan if the bank has checked "yes" in Box 5 which asks "Was borrower personally liable for repayment of the debt?"

          People might receive multiple Forms 1099-A (one from each lender) for a single property. People might also receive Form 1099-C instead of Form 1099-A if the lender both foreclosed on the property and canceled any mortgage debt for which the borrower was personally liable.

          Gain or loss is reported on Schedule D for homes that were personal residences. As a reminder, the IRS does not allow people to claim a loss on personal residences. Any gain (and I have seen situations where a foreclosure results in gain being reported) on personal residences can be offset by the capital gains exclusion for a main home."



          c's are most always related to written off credit card debt... you'll be fine.
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            #6
            Isn't this where Form 982 comes in?

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              #7
              Originally posted by feelingnutsy View Post
              Isn't this where Form 982 comes in?
              yes
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                #8
                Let's make sure we are clear

                Form 982 ONLY goes with the 1099-C, NOT the 1099-A.

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                  #9
                  a c......seeeeeeee...LOL...not an A
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                    #10
                    What do you file with the 1099-A?---anything?

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                      #11
                      Schedule D. (capital gain/loss)

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                        #12
                        the problem here is it's a rental property and not your primary.......???


                        The Mortgage Forgiveness Debt Relief Act and Debt Cancellation


                        "If you owe a debt to someone else and they cancel or forgive that debt, the canceled amount may be taxable.

                        The Mortgage Debt Relief Act of 2007 generally allows taxpayers to exclude income from the discharge of debt on their principal residence. Debt reduced through mortgage restructuring, as well as mortgage debt forgiven in connection with a foreclosure, qualifies for the relief.

                        This provision applies to debt forgiven in calendar years 2007 through 2012. Up to $2 million of forgiven debt is eligible for this exclusion ($1 million if married filing separately). The exclusion does not apply if the discharge is due to services performed for the lender or any other reason not directly related to a decline in the home’s value or the taxpayer’s financial condition.

                        More information, including detailed examples can be found in Publication 4681, Canceled Debts, Foreclosures, Repossessions, and Abandonments. Also see IRS news release IR-2008-17.

                        The following are the most commonly asked questions and answers about The Mortgage Forgiveness Debt Relief Act and debt cancellation:

                        What is Cancellation of Debt?
                        If you borrow money from a commercial lender and the lender later cancels or forgives the debt, you may have to include the cancelled amount in income for tax purposes, depending on the circumstances. When you borrowed the money you were not required to include the loan proceeds in income because you had an obligation to repay the lender. When that obligation is subsequently forgiven, the amount you received as loan proceeds is normally reportable as income because you no longer have an obligation to repay the lender. The lender is usually required to report the amount of the canceled debt to you and the IRS on a Form 1099-C, Cancellation of Debt.

                        Here’s a very simplified example. You borrow $10,000 and default on the loan after paying back $2,000. If the lender is unable to collect the remaining debt from you, there is a cancellation of debt of $8,000, which generally is taxable income to you.

                        Is Cancellation of Debt income always taxable?
                        Not always. There are some exceptions. The most common situations when cancellation of debt income is not taxable involve:

                        * Qualified principal residence indebtedness: This is the exception created by the Mortgage Debt Relief Act of 2007 and applies to most homeowners.
                        * Bankruptcy: Debts discharged through bankruptcy are not considered taxable income.
                        * Insolvency: If you are insolvent when the debt is cancelled, some or all of the cancelled debt may not be taxable to you. You are insolvent when your total debts are more than the fair market value of your total assets.
                        * Certain farm debts: If you incurred the debt directly in operation of a farm, more than half your income from the prior three years was from farming, and the loan was owed to a person or agency regularly engaged in lending, your cancelled debt is generally not considered taxable income.
                        * Non-recourse loans: A non-recourse loan is a loan for which the lender’s only remedy in case of default is to repossess the property being financed or used as collateral. That is, the lender cannot pursue you personally in case of default. Forgiveness of a non-recourse loan resulting from a foreclosure does not result in cancellation of debt income. However, it may result in other tax consequences.

                        These exceptions are discussed in detail in Publication 4681.

                        What is the Mortgage Forgiveness Debt Relief Act of 2007?
                        The Mortgage Forgiveness Debt Relief Act of 2007 was enacted on December 20, 2007 (see News Release IR-2008-17). Generally, the Act allows exclusion of income realized as a result of modification of the terms of the mortgage, or foreclosure on your principal residence.

                        What does exclusion of income mean?
                        Normally, debt that is forgiven or cancelled by a lender must be included as income on your tax return and is taxable. But the Mortgage Forgiveness Debt Relief Act allows you to exclude certain cancelled debt on your principal residence from income. Debt reduced through mortgage restructuring, as well as mortgage debt forgiven in connection with a foreclosure, qualifies for the relief.

                        Does the Mortgage Forgiveness Debt Relief Act apply to all forgiven or cancelled debts?
                        No. The Act applies only to forgiven or cancelled debt used to buy, build or substantially improve your principal residence, or to refinance debt incurred for those purposes. In addition, the debt must be secured by the home. This is known as qualified principal residence indebtedness. The maximum amount you can treat as qualified principal residence indebtedness is $2 million or $1 million if married filing
                        separately.

                        Does the Mortgage Forgiveness Debt Relief Act apply to debt incurred to refinance a home?
                        Debt used to refinance your home qualifies for this exclusion, but only to the extent that the principal balance of the old mortgage, immediately before the refinancing, would have qualified. For more information, including an example, see Publication 4681.

                        How long is this special relief in effect?
                        It applies to qualified principal residence indebtedness forgiven in calendar years 2007 through 2012.

                        Is there a limit on the amount of forgiven qualified principal residence indebtedness that can be excluded from income?
                        The maximum amount you can treat as qualified principal residence indebtedness is $2 million ($1 million if married filing separately for the tax year), at the time the loan was forgiven. If the balance was greater, see the instructions to Form 982 and the detailed example in Publication 4681.

                        If the forgiven debt is excluded from income, do I have to report it on my tax return?
                        Yes. The amount of debt forgiven must be reported on Form 982 and this form must be attached to your tax return.

                        Do I have to complete the entire Form 982?
                        No. Form 982, Reduction of Tax Attributes Due to Discharge of Indebtedness (and Section 1082 Adjustment), is used for other purposes in addition to reporting the exclusion of forgiveness of qualified principal residence indebtedness. If you are using the form only to report the exclusion of forgiveness of qualified principal residence indebtedness as the result of foreclosure on your principal residence, you only need to complete lines 1e and 2. If you kept ownership of your home and modification of the terms of your mortgage resulted in the forgiveness of qualified principal residence indebtedness, complete lines 1e, 2, and 10b. Attach the Form 982 to your tax return.

                        Where can I get this form?
                        If you use a computer to fill out your return, check your tax-preparation software. You can also download the form at IRS.gov, or call 1-800-829-3676. If you call to order, please allow 7-10 days for delivery.

                        How do I know or find out how much debt was forgiven?
                        Your lender should send a Form 1099-C, Cancellation of Debt, by February 2, 2009. The amount of debt forgiven or cancelled will be shown in box 2. If this debt is all qualified principal residence indebtedness, the amount shown in box 2 will generally be the amount that you enter on lines 2 and 10b, if applicable, on Form 982.

                        Can I exclude debt forgiven on my second home, credit card or car loans?
                        Not under this provision. Only cancelled debt used to buy, build or improve your principal residence or refinance debt incurred for those purposes qualifies for this exclusion. See Publication 4681 for further details.

                        If part of the forgiven debt doesn't qualify for exclusion from income under this provision, is it possible that it may qualify for exclusion under a different provision?
                        Yes. The forgiven debt may qualify under the insolvency exclusion. Normally, you are not required to include forgiven debts in income to the extent that you are insolvent. You are insolvent when your total liabilities exceed your total assets. The forgiven debt may also qualify for exclusion if the debt was discharged in a Title 11 bankruptcy proceeding or if the debt is qualified farm indebtedness or qualified real property business indebtedness. If you believe you qualify for any of these exceptions, see the instructions for Form 982. Publication 4681 discusses each of these exceptions and includes examples.

                        I lost money on the foreclosure of my home. Can I claim a loss on my tax return?
                        No. Losses from the sale or foreclosure of personal property are not deductible.

                        If I sold my home at a loss and the remaining loan is forgiven, does this constitute a cancellation of debt?
                        Yes. To the extent that a loan from a lender is not fully satisfied and a lender cancels the unsatisfied debt, you have cancellation of indebtedness income. If the amount forgiven or canceled is $600 or more, the lender must generally issue Form 1099-C, Cancellation of Debt, showing the amount of debt canceled. However, you may be able to exclude part or all of this income if the debt was qualified principal residence indebtedness, you were insolvent immediately before the discharge, or if the debt was canceled in a title 11 bankruptcy case. An exclusion is also available for the cancellation of certain nonbusiness debts of a qualified individual as a result of a disaster in a Midwestern disaster area. See Form 982 for details.

                        If the remaining balance owed on my mortgage loan that I was personally liable for was canceled after my foreclosure, may I still exclude the canceled debt from income under the qualified principal residence exclusion, even though I no longer own my residence?
                        Yes, as long as the canceled debt was qualified principal residence indebtedness. See Example 2 on page 13 of Publication 4681, Canceled Debts, Foreclosures, Repossessions, and Abandonments.

                        Will I receive notification of cancellation of debt from my lender?
                        Yes. Lenders are required to send Form 1099-C, Cancellation of Debt, when they cancel any debt of $600 or more. The amount cancelled will be in box 2 of the form.

                        What if I disagree with the amount in box 2?
                        Contact your lender to work out any discrepancies and have the lender issue a corrected Form 1099-C.

                        How do I report the forgiveness of debt that is excluded from gross income?
                        (1) Check the appropriate box under line 1 on Form 982, Reduction of Tax Attributes Due to Discharge of Indebtedness (and Section 1082 Basis Adjustment) to indicate the type of discharge of indebtedness and enter the amount of the discharged debt excluded from gross income on line 2. Any remaining canceled debt must be included as income on your tax return.

                        (2) File Form 982 with your tax return.

                        My student loan was cancelled; will this result in taxable income?
                        In some cases, yes. Your student loan cancellation will not result in taxable income if you agreed to a loan provision requiring you to work in a certain profession for a specified period of time, and you fulfilled this obligation.

                        Are there other conditions I should know about to exclude the cancellation of student debt?
                        Yes, your student loan must have been made by:

                        (a) the federal government, or a state or local government or subdivision;

                        (b) a tax-exempt public benefit corporation which has control of a state, county or municipal hospital where the employees are considered public employees; or

                        (c) a school which has a program to encourage students to work in underserved occupations or areas, and has an agreement with one of the above to fund the program, under the direction of a governmental unit or a charitable or educational organization.

                        Can I exclude cancellation of credit card debt?
                        In some cases, yes. Nonbusiness credit card debt cancellation can be excluded from income if the cancellation occurred in a title 11 bankruptcy case, or to the extent you were insolvent just before the cancellation. See the examples in Publication 4681.

                        How do I know if I was insolvent?
                        You are insolvent when your total debts exceed the total fair market value of all of your assets. Assets include everything you own, e.g., your car, house, condominium, furniture, life insurance policies, stocks, other investments, or your pension and other retirement accounts.

                        How should I report the information and items needed to prove insolvency?
                        Use Form 982, Reduction of Tax Attributes Due to Discharge of Indebtedness (and Section 1082 Basis Adjustment) to exclude canceled debt from income to the extent you were insolvent immediately before the cancellation. You were insolvent to the extent that your liabilities exceeded the fair market value of your assets immediately before the cancellation.

                        To claim this exclusion, you must attach Form 982 to your federal income tax return. Check box 1b on Form 982, and, on line 2, include the smaller of the amount of the debt canceled or the amount by which you were insolvent immediately prior to the cancellation. You must also reduce your tax attributes in Part II of Form 982.

                        My car was repossessed and I received a 1099-C; can I exclude this amount on my tax return?
                        Only if the cancellation happened in a title 11 bankruptcy case, or to the extent you were insolvent just before the cancellation. See Publication 4681 for examples.

                        Are there any publications I can read for more information?
                        Yes.
                        (1) Publication 4681, Canceled Debts, Foreclosures, Repossessions, and Abando"
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                          #13
                          Would you be kind enough to comment on just "rentals" and 1099A only.

                          First and second discharged in Ch 7 no asset distribution.

                          1099A received..."no 1099c"

                          Box 5 states personally liable for debt.

                          AZ non recourse state

                          Since these were discharged in Chapter 7 precisely what forms, if any do I need to complete.


                          Than you as your expertise is quite in depth and extremely helpful comments.

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                            #14
                            Originally posted by bellessima View Post
                            Would you be kind enough to comment on just "rentals" and 1099A only.

                            First and second discharged in Ch 7 no asset distribution.

                            1099A received..."no 1099c"

                            Box 5 states personally liable for debt.

                            AZ non recourse state

                            Since these were discharged in Chapter 7 precisely what forms, if any do I need to complete.


                            Than you as your expertise is quite in depth and extremely helpful comments.
                            i really don't know about my expertise...just attempting to lend a hand...or info i have personally experienced.... i concure with hhm....the expert.....it's the schedule "d"......

                            hope this helps...it's one of my blogs:

                            What to Do With Form 1099-A?

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                            tobee43


                            on 01-04-2011 at 09:30 AM (800 Views)




                            Saturday February 27, 2010


                            When a house is foreclosed upon by the bank, the owners typically receive Form 1099-A from the lender showing several pieces of relevant information. The information on Form 1099-A will likely be needed to report the foreclosure properly on your tax return. A foreclosure is treated as the sale of property, and the former property owner will need to calculate their gain or loss on the property. But unlike a normal sale, there's no "selling price," and this is where the Form 1099-A comes into play. What to do with the information found on Form 1099-A has been asked by a number of readers, including "IcelandorBust," who posted this query on the message boards:

                            "Our home was foreclosed on in July 2009. The bank sold it to a new owner in November 2009. We received a 1099-A in January. We have not received a 1099-C. I have been unable to find a concrete answer as to what to do with the 1099-A."

                            Under the rules for calculating the tax consequences of a foreclosure, the taxpayer will need figure out the "selling price" so that gain or loss can be calculating. Depending on the type of loan, the taxpayer will utilize either the fair market value of the property or the outstanding loan balance on the property for the selling price. Both of these figures are reported on Form 1099-A. The outstanding loan balance is found in Box 2; the property's fair market value is found in Box 4. The date of the foreclosure is indicated in Box 1, and this will be used as the date the property was disposed of (that is, the "sale date"). Taxpayers will also need to know if the loan was a recourse or a non-recourse loan; the loan was probably a recourse loan if the bank has checked "yes" in Box 5 which asks "Was borrower personally liable for repayment of the debt?"

                            People might receive multiple Forms 1099-A (one from each lender) for a single property. People might also receive Form 1099-C instead of Form 1099-A if the lender both foreclosed on the property and canceled any mortgage debt for which the borrower was personally liable.

                            Gain or loss is reported on Schedule D for homes that were personal residences. As a reminder, the IRS does not allow people to claim a loss on personal residences. Any gain (and I have seen situations where a foreclosure results in gain being reported) on personal residences can be offset by the capital gains exclusion for a main home.

                            see the below link as well....

                            Last edited by tobee43; 03-23-2011, 06:59 AM.
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